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America seems more divided than ever. Does God have a plan?

Between several international wars, mass government layoffs, and a Congress seemingly paralyzed by partisan gridlock, some folks in the United States are losing faith in our institutions to function effectively.

If the guardrails of society are indeed coming down, is it time we place our faith in a higher power instead? 

That sentiment is working its way into the mainstream. 

“God Has a Plan”

GOP Rep. Mark Alford told scores of angry federal workers at risk of being laid off by Elon Musk’s Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE) not to worry – God has a plan for them… it just may not involve employment in the federal government. 

“Just because you have a government job doesn’t mean it’s a lifetime appointment like a Supreme Court,” said Rep. Alford to his frustrated constituents. “So I would encourage anyone who finds themselves in this situation to realize that we are going to get this economy turning again. There are jobs available. God has a plan and purpose for your life.”

For the laid-off workers in the audience, this wasn’t exactly the reassurance they were looking for. One woman was heard snapping back, “We don’t want your God.” Another man, interviewed by local news, dismissed Alford’s remarks entirely: “We don’t need thoughts and prayers… we need someone to stand up for us.”

Their frustration underscored a growing divide in America – not just in terms of economic policy, but in the very way people interpret divine will.

Is a Higher Power at Work?

While Alford’s constituents questioned whether God’s plan included mass layoffs, a very different sentiment was on display at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Maryland. There, Elon Musk’s radical government overhaul wasn’t seen as an economic upheaval – it was seen as part of a higher mission.

“Thank God for Elon Musk,” said John Paul Moran, an attendee from Massachusetts. “100 percent.” 

Another attendee, Kellie Kiefner, framed the job losses as a necessary sacrifice: “Some people might have to suffer in the short term, but in the long run, you have to look at the big picture.”

This notion of divine providence is something President Trump himself has highlighted. After an assassination attempt last year, President Trump stated that his life was spared by a higher power. "I was saved by God," he declared, "to make America great again."

For believers, the big changes coming to America – from Trump's re-election to Musk’s sweeping cuts – are not evidence of chaos but of a divine blueprint.

Two Americas, One God?

Two different locations, two different political affiliations, and two very different ideas of God’s plan for America’s future. 

In Kansas City, displaced workers decried what felt like divine abandonment. At CPAC, activists praised the same upheaval as providence. Both groups invoked God, but the gods they saw were strikingly different.

For some, faith is about stability – about ensuring that institutions serve and protect the people who rely on them. For others, faith is about disruption, tearing down the old order to pave the way for something new. One group prays for security; the other, for revolution. One sees government layoffs as an avoidable crisis; the other, as an unavoidable sacrifice.

What do you think? Does God have a plan for America? And if so… which plan will win out?

96 comments

  1. Reverend Paula Copp's Avatar Reverend Paula Copp

    As far as I’m concerned, the current president of the United States is the Anti Christ!

    1. Sandra A Rasmussen's Avatar Sandra A Rasmussen

      I don’t know why you think that about Trump-Obama, Biden,and the rest of the Democrats are antichrist! Trump and Musk are dismantling all the ones that are trying to divide this country and bring it down-don’t believe in the popular media anymore- Maybe you should do a little research going down the rabbit hole-into the deep dark web, much worse than the scariest movie you’ve ever watched

      1. Rev. Klaire ThD, MA's Avatar Rev. Klaire ThD, MA

        Sandra, lol! You embarrass yourself.

        1. Sandra A Rasmussen's Avatar Sandra A Rasmussen

          Wrong!! I’m embarrassing you-learn to recognize the truth.

          1. Timothy C Stone's Avatar Timothy C Stone

            You have NO truth, just 'alternative facts' spewed by an orange buffoon. There is no rabbit hole here, just the rt wing propaganda bubble that you are trapped in.

            1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

              Just could it be that you are trapped on your left wing propaganda?

              I’ve listened to people like AOC, Harris, and Biden et al. I’ve been part of 4 years of absolute rubbish leadership. We actually have no real evidence that Biden ran this country during the last 4 years due to his very obvious dementia. Illegal immigration was the highest on record. Citizens were being harmed and killed by some of them. At last we have people in charge that know how to run a business, which has been needed for so long.

              The swamp is at last being drained that will bring us out of debt, along with much needed tariffs. Products will be made in America. Illegal immigrants are being returned home. Gangs are being broken up. USA is finally going to become a respected nation again. Who in their right mind would not want this?

              We are now becoming “unburdened by what has been”. 🤭

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              1. Timothy C Stone's Avatar Timothy C Stone

                LMFAO!!! Sounds like you gobbled down every rt wing lie tRUMP has spewed since 2015 and just puked them out. You are definitely neck deep in his swamp and sinking fast. Anyone that supports tRUMP has no idea what is actually happening in this country. You are not worth any more of my time.

              2. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                That's totally okay, Timothy. Perhaps you are happy with the violence, and in some cases death, caused by some Illegal immigrants let in by Biden. Perhaps you are happy with the inflation he left behind, or by the way he left Afghanistan. You are not on your own, the "minority" of USA is with you. Don't you just love democracy?

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              3. Timothy C Stone's Avatar Timothy C Stone

                WOW! every tRUMP talking point. American citizens commit much more violent crime than immigrants, that is a fact. Just cherry picking a couple crimes to spew racism and bigotry. The economy was better than any other country in the world when the real President left. tRUMP is destroying that reality. Biden withdrew troops by tRUMP's agreement. It was the buffoon's plan. As far as violence? How about the January 'day of love' on the 6th 2021 ?

              4. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                Yes, of course American citizens commit much more crimes because there are over 342 million of us. Additional crimes by illegal immigrants shouldn’t even be happening, because they shouldn’t be here, and people like Laken Riley et al would be alive.

                It was President Trump’s plan to leave Afghanistan, but not in the way Biden went about it, leaving all that equipment behind. It was one of the biggest blunders of Biden’s administration.

                Fortunately, the majority of American citizens have now realized what a bad choice Biden, and the Democrat party was for the Unites States. At last we have someone at the helm that knows how to get us out of debt and make America great again.

                The Democrat party is now a rudderless ship, with no one knowing who is in charge. It’s scrambling to pick up its pieces from the last election, and they are trying to figure out what went wrong, which of course is quite obvious if you look at the last 4 years, and the word salad ramblings of Kamala Harris, but not to worry we are now “unburdened by what has been” 😜

                Have no fear Timothy we are now at last in good hands. 🤗

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          2. Alisha Rodriguez's Avatar Alisha Rodriguez

            What is your truth based on? Is the truth that which you, Trump, and Elon profess. Is this the Trinity that tells America what truth we are to believe. If you claim to he Christian then you are aware God warns of false prophets claiming to come in the name of our Lord. Wolves in sheep's clothing. The devil comes to kill and destroy. Many believe God spared Trump to make America great others believe he was spared to be kept from being considered a martyr. When you find groceries unaffordable who will you pray to? Or do you believe that YOU will he spared from the suffering that you claim is part of God's plan for everyone else?

          3. Robert Gagnon's Avatar Robert Gagnon

            Q much?

      2. James Riggle-Johnson's Avatar James Riggle-Johnson

        No, they claim to stop division, but in reality, they are trying to bring us all under their homogenized vision of America. We are all different. You have to recognize that and make sure we are all treated equally. By the way, this had nothing to do with whether God does/does not have a plan for us.

      3. JaZe's Avatar JaZe

        Why blame God for everything? Do we even know who or what is God? he/she/it/them?

      4. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

        You are right on, Sandra. 🙌🏻. At last, the swamp is being cleaned up, especially from the inept former administration. What a loser he was!

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        1. Alisha Rodriguez's Avatar Alisha Rodriguez

          I am Florida born and bred. There is a big problem in the Everglades with pythons that are killings the wildlife at an alarming rate. We don't drain the swamp to eliminate the pythons. The state pays private citizens who are hunters to hunt them. The swamps were created by God with purpose. Florida has over 12 different ecosystems within those swamps but apparently God's purpose for the swamps don't seem to sit right with you and so they need to he drained. Go ahead drain the swamp but who will you pray to when your home falls into a sinkhole while you and your family sleep at night Ignorant people are the reasons for non native invasive snakes in the Florida Everglades just as people put invasive deadly vipers in WH and Capitals throughout the country and then lament that God drain the swamp.

          1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

            The swamp still needs to be drained, and the pythons of the previous administration will be harnessed, which many of them need to be. 🤭

            Your claim that swamps were created by a god is as flawed as your rhetoric, unless of course you can prove the existence of your god. If you can, you will be the first person on earth to do it and you will be able to claim the Nobel prize.

            I think you will find that your logic and reasoning have already fallen into a sinkhole. Try joining the majority of the country that saw the logic of this change and welcome the fact that illegals are going back to their homeland, gangs are being broken up, and the country is at last being run by people who understand financial success. Thank you for your comment. 🤗

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      5. Dennis Gregory Brock's Avatar Dennis Gregory Brock

        You've been watching too much satan TV**, the Fox political propaganda network. Donald Trump is the 1st person, in my lifetime, that perfectly fulfills the prophecies of: the man of lawlessness of 2nd Thessalonians, the king who exhalts himself of Daniel 11, and the final king of this world of Daniel 8:23-25. Of course these prophesies have not fullfilled completely, (this world is not over .. yet .. soon seeing the signs) give him time, he's not dead or gone yet. I'm willing to give him all the rope he needs & preparing myself for the day of the Lord. The end of this world.

        I highly recommend reading your bible. Several times from In to Amen, if necessary, to get the Lord's messages for us, those who love Him. God is Love. 1st John 7-21. Also read Matthew 7:1-5, and stop judging others with your evil tongue.

        ** Our real enemy, the devil & satan, deceives by mixing truth & lies which is the exact business model of Fox. Unfortunately the other 'news' outlets are owned by wealthy american oligarchs and you will only see/hear what they want you to think. Avoid them all. Our entire country is brain washed in satanic lies.

        A good analogy regarding satan's lies I like to use: Take 5 gallons of sewage and add 1 tbsp of fine wine & you still have 5 gallons of sewage. Likewise, take 5 gallons of fine wine, and add 1 tbsp of sewage & you still have 5 gallons of sewage.

        The only truth in this world is God's word. Everything else produced by sinners are lies.

    2. Robert James Gordon's Avatar Robert James Gordon

      God calls us to commit acts of mercy; not to be a force of destruction. Evil destroys. Goodness and mercy build up. Taking away healthcare and humanitarian aid programs is destructive. The one who recently declared himself "king" is a force of destruction: therefore evil.

    3. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      It's people with attitudes like this is what is destroying America. We had an election and the people have spoken at the ballot box. God and Jesus would tell you to support America and the president "we" elected.

      1. Timothy C Stone's Avatar Timothy C Stone

        If God and Jesus had anything to do with our politics they would tell us to resist a Fascist buffoon. tRUMP is dividing our nation and destroying our government. I did not vote for the buffoon and I will not support the traitor. tRUMP should be jailed.

        1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

          Watch what you say, you might be jailed for what you say. The Christian brownshirts are watching and taking note.

    4. Thomas P. Davis's Avatar Thomas P. Davis

      Paula, he is not the antichrist. the word antichrist is used two ways 1. against Christ 2. in the place of Christ. Paul said in the NT that the antichrist was already here. The NT also says that he who says that Jesus did not come in the flesh is the antichrist. All the reformers and those before them knew whom he was. Whom on this earth now and in the past claims to be God, whom on this earth claims that Jesus did not come in the flesh?

  1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

    The Christians have a well documented plan is to destroy America. The article "The Religious Right and the Abortion Myth".

    White Christians in the 1970s didn’t initially care about abortion but did and have always cared about racial segregation. The Christians organized to defend racial segregation in Christian institutions in America and only seized on banning abortion because to hide their real goal of destroying America. They are succeeding which they think will bring the return of Christ.

    1. Timothy C Stone's Avatar Timothy C Stone

      Not to mention Reagan embracing the 'silent majority' of Falwell for their votes. And it worked. Reagan did not care about their beliefs, he was not religious.

    2. EnjoyYourMilquetoast's Avatar EnjoyYourMilquetoast

      It goes back to Calvinism of the 16th century (aka: Christian Zionism). It's part of the reason for the huge love affair between evangelicals in the US and Zionists in Israel right now. Jews didn't get into Zionism until the 19th century.

      The end-game of Christian Zionism is to bring about the end of the world (ie. summon the four horsemen of the apocalypse) according to their interpretation of Biblical prophesy, by whatever means necessary. If that means nuclear war, manufactured bioweapons, or anything else, then so be it. It's their God's plan®.

  1. Robert Gagnon's Avatar Robert Gagnon

    God doesn't interfere with the affairs of men. Pointing the finger upstairs while defending taking peoples jobs is just denying responsibility. Let's see if he has the same response when the King abolishes congress.

    1. John W's Avatar John W

      Agree with you on that.

      1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

        So God didn't get create a great flood?

        1. Parson Golden's Avatar Parson Golden

          Nope, there is absolutely no verifying historical data to point to any great flood that consumed the Earth.

          The laws of physics do not support it.

          1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

            Not even in the Cretaceous period? Not sure how the laws of physics do not support it when the physical evidence does.

    2. Parson Golden's Avatar Parson Golden

      LOL, “God” has interfered with the affairs of man multiple times. He has three really easy ones for you. But don’t let the truth get in the way of your narrative

      Genesis 6 - 9 Genesis 11:1-9 Exodus 3-14

      1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

        I bet you believe in a Unicorn, a talking Ass, and a talking Serpent….right?

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        1. Keith David Harry's Avatar Keith David Harry

          Duuuude! I just spit my pre workout drink all over the Smith Machine. You crack me up as usual man. Keep it up. And when I see your name on a note, before I read it, I’ll put that drink down. Classic responses.

        2. Parson Golden's Avatar Parson Golden

          If you’re referring to me, you completely misinterpreted my comment.

          1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

            My apologies, sorry about that, Parson. 🤗

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    3. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

      Then why do people waste their time praying and going to church?

      1. Parson Golden's Avatar Parson Golden

        Because way too many people lack the critical thinking skills required to look through the chaff.

      2. EnjoyYourMilquetoast's Avatar EnjoyYourMilquetoast

        Because they're unable to distinguish fantasy from reality after a lifetime of indoctrination and association with hoards of equally deluded individuals. It's self-reinforcing stupidity.

      3. Patricia Ann Gross's Avatar Patricia Ann Gross

        Douglas, The point of the reply, was that by blaming God for what is happening is passing the buck of responsibility. The mentality is that "I don't have to be accountable for my actions if I can just blame God for what happens." The old, 'The devil made me do it" defense. Even one who feels they are called by God to do what they do has to remain accountable for their actions.

      4. Timothy C Stone's Avatar Timothy C Stone

        Jesus said, "The Kingdom is within you..." Prayer should be a meditation, you go within to find your answers. Jesus taught "When you pray, go into your room, close the door, and pray to your Father who is in secret" in Matthew 6:6. Make contact with your own Soul. God is not Zeus on a golden throne moving people around like game pieces. People have free will.

  1. Billy Heckstall's Avatar Billy Heckstall

    God has no part in this desaturation of all things Constitutional and proper by the laws of life, like liberty and the pursuit of happiness!

    What we’re witnessing in these times, is what happens when man develops a strong desire to be like god!

    If just a small fragment of the pledge of allegiance was visible, it would be wonderful, but this monstrosity lack anything remotely close to: “One nation under god, with liberty and justice for all”.

    If we don’t stand up to the oligarchy they will win; and any ideas you may have had of God, will be gone!

  1. Parson Golden's Avatar Parson Golden

    Nope.

  1. James Riggle-Johnson's Avatar James Riggle-Johnson

    Free will! Isn’t that what we were supposedly given? Wouldn’t God stand back and see what we do with that? I certainly don’t believe God looked at tRump and said, there he is… that’s the one that will bring ME back into that one country. I don’t think it works like that. God is waiting to see what we do with ourselves and our fellow human beings. The judgment, if any, will come after we are gone.

  1. Michael Sciulli's Avatar Michael Sciulli

    Yes God has a plan for us follow the Bible is the truth don’t listen to false prophets help the people need love your enemy as yourself God bless Minister, Mike

    1. Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox's Avatar Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox

      Ahhhh a lost sheep … his “plan” seems odd. I mean, why doesn’t he intervene when he sees a pedophile having anal sex with infants, children, etc? Serious question. Why did he not intervene when a certain president was grabbing women by their genitals? Why did he just stand around doing nothing while Covid was killing millions of people? Need I go on?

      This is not a god who is loving, caring, etc. This is the very definition of evil.

      1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

        God hates his creation. We were created to worship him. If you do it right, you get to go to Heaven and do it for eternity. If he was a mortal and our father, DYFUS would take us away from him.

        1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

          You’ve been reading too many fictional books. Just as a heads up, the Harry Potter books are also fiction just in case you have any doubts.

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          1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

            L.H. please site references to prove me wrong.

            1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

              No one can prove something exists that can't be proved does exist.

              We can't prove Fairies, Gnomes, Elves, Sasquatch, Santa Clause, Thor, Vishnu, Voldemort, or the Tooth Fairy don't exist can we? We have to assume they don't exist until they can be proved they do.

              Thank you for your comment.

              🦁♥️

      2. Jimmy Moon's Avatar Jimmy Moon

        GOD is always in control. Because of sin, HE still allows man to do his will. All bad things happen because of sin. GOD created only good. BUT, one day, HE will judge the wicked. It is sad that evil happens all around us. Make sure you have accepted JESUS as your SAVIOR. Or you too will be Hell bound. Have a blessed day.

        1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

          You actually made me laugh when you said god created only good. Did you skip the bit in the Bible where he drowned nearly everyone on earth, which would have included babies, toddlers, children, and pregnant mothers. I bet they were not very happy at the time. I won't mention the children of the first born that he killed. Darn it! I just did. 🤷🏼

          You've got me curious now. Do you actually worship and bow down to that infanticidal, genocidal, maniac?

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          1. Jimmy Moon's Avatar Jimmy Moon

            I’m sorry you are narrow minded and have never read the Bible. If you had read it, you would see that HE gave Noah 120 years to warn people about the coming judgement. As for all other judgments, GOD is against sin. Only JESUS can save you from eternal death. Repent while you can. Have a blessed day.

            1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

              Having been a baptizing Minister, I can assure you I have read the Bible. As for suggesting I am being narrow minded, I'm sure you can see that being narrow minded would be someone that accepts everything one reads without using logic, reason, and critical thought to determine if what one is reading is in fact true. So, Sir, I would respectfully suggest that it is you that is in fact narrow minded, if you insist on believing in a Unicorn, a talking Ass, and a talking snake, just because you have read it.

              I still see the infanticidal, genocidal god that you like to worship, and believe is real, as a brutal heartless deity, that obviously had a very bad plan and didn't know how to better resolve it other than to kill everyone off and try again. Fortunately, we now know the story of the great flood is not true, which is evidenced by geological sciences. I fully expect you to reject this statement if you have never studied any of the earth sciences.

              Your statement saying "Only Jesus can save from an eternal death" is of course a complete fallacy. Words like "Sin" and "Eternal death" are all human constructs that religionists of many faiths love to use to keep everyone toeing the line. You are very welcome to believe whatever you want to believe if it makes you feel good, but for me, I prefer to have a very open mind and q

            2. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

              ......question everything rather than just believe everything I read because it fits my narrative of a "belief" structure that I have been programmed/indoctrinated about. Thank you for your statement Jimmy Moon.

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              1. Jimmy Moon's Avatar Jimmy Moon

                You still are showing your narrow-mindedness. READ the BIBLE after you get saved.

              2. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                Awe...bless your heart, Jimmy. I know you mean well, hang in there. Indoctrination in any of the world's religions can be so cruel and brainwashing. You are in the same situation as all of the other religions on the face of the earth that proclaim they have the truth.

                In many ways, you and I are no different. You have decided that out of approximately 3,000 of the worlds religions, you have atheistic views towards 2,999 of them, just like I do, but in my case I have decided that there is just one more that is false.

                When we die, we both might get a shock and find that we should have believed in Lord Krishna to save us. You will find that to be a very silly statement, just like other religions will find your Lord Jesus statement to be silly, and that's okay.

                Perhaps we should all read The Book of Mormon, or the Quran, for the Vedas, or the Upanishads, or the Bhagavad Gita, but in your case all you have done is read the Bible and have decided that is truth. Just a heads up, those other scriptures that I just referenced don't have a talking snake, or a talking Ass, or a Unicorn in them. They have some other weird stuff that mankind has made up, just like in the Bible.

                Thank you for your well meaning comment.🤗

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              3. Jimmy Moon's Avatar Jimmy Moon

                I won't bother you again. Matthew 7:6 King James Version 6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

              4. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                You are always welcome to make comments, Jimmy. I do realize that for some it’s difficult to use logic, reason, and critical thought, when trying to determine truth.

                Your comments are always appreciated. 🤗

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  1. Echo's Avatar Echo

    I think if there was a plan it got derailed under the current administration. The anti christ has stepped up to destroy democracy and people's rights.

  1. EnjoyYourMilquetoast's Avatar EnjoyYourMilquetoast

    Children are expected to learn the difference between fantasy and reality by the time they reach puberty. But the glaring exception is the fairy tale about the Abrahamic sky wizard who will save everyone from his own vengeful behavior only if they grovel at him hard enough, and perhaps elect the right greedy narcissists into public office. For 2,000 years that narrative has been proven to be a reliable means to keep a large proportion of the adult population of the planet in a perpetual state of mental infancy.

  1. Colleen McAllister's Avatar Colleen McAllister

    God does have an overall plan and if you read the entire Bible you will see that things are going according to that plan. tRump is not the anti-Christ but is one of Satan's minions. What is happening is foretold and will get much worse before the end. I trust in God even more through these horrible times. 🙏🏾 Make your decision now as to who you will follow -God or Satan? As for me, I choose to follow the Lord. Joshua 24:15

    1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      Nope, things are going according to the plan of the people. That’s what a democratic vote is all about. Sorry about that, Colleen. Were you supporting the woke? Did you support illegal immigrants that raped and pillaged our citizens? If you did, I think I know whose side you are really on, despite your claims.

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      1. Religion as a Weapon is Wrong's Avatar Religion as a Weapon is Wrong

        Yet you voted for a rapist that is pillaging the treasury. Do you not see the irony in that?

        1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

          I voted for someone that actually knows what a mess the beach dweller left behind, and knows how to fix it. I bet you would have voted for the bar tender if she ran for office....right?

          Are you one of the few that hasn't stopped reading/listening to CNN yet? I'm just askin' for someone that thinks; Pelosi is teetotal; AOC is intellectually gifted; Harris knows what she's talking about; Warren is a Native American War Chief; and Schiff doesn't tell lies. 🤷🏼

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      2. Thomas P. Davis's Avatar Thomas P. Davis

        Lionheart, not the people although they believe so. Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.

        1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

          Does anyone really understand Revelations? It has to be one of the weirdest books in the Bible, which is hardly surprising. It was written on the Isle of Patmos, which was, and still is, known for its shrooms. Hallucinogenic drugs can be so wild! 😵‍💫

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          1. Thomas P. Davis's Avatar Thomas P. Davis

            Lionheart, God wouldn't give us a book that could not be understood. Most of the world watch all the puppets, when they should be watching the puppeteers who strings control those puppets. Ultimately there is one that controls those puppeteers too.

            1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

              In reality, what you are doing is preaching from your indoctrination. It’s what many do of all faiths, so you are not on your own. Until you can demonstrably prove the god you worship is real anything you say is just hypothetical stories, clouded in myth. Even your omnipotent god you worship doesn’t seem able to prove it’s real, which is the same for all of the gods on earth that mankind has created throughout the eons of time. You will of course insist yours is the real one, which is no different to what everyone else is saying about their god they worship.

              If the god you worship is that genocidal, and infanticidal deity that likes to be seen as love, mentioned in that book called the Bible, there are better ones if you really need one. I’m just saying!

              Thanks for your reply, Sir Thomas. 🤗

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              1. Thomas P. Davis's Avatar Thomas P. Davis

                Lionheart, the subject wasn't about the authenticity of God. It was who is ruling the worlds governments. One day according to the bible, all will know and realize they have been deceived.

              2. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                Yes Im aware of the subject, but when members reply with claims like yours, such as "One day according to the Bible, all will know and realize they have been deceived" I respond to those mythical claims for the fallacies they are, stories in a book, written by many people that didn't know where the sun went at night, but claim they were inspired by some sort of deity. 🤭

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              3. Thomas P. Davis's Avatar Thomas P. Davis

                Lionheart, if one believes in the bible, not all these tainted versions out there. Which I do, I rely on it. The disciples asked the Lord what the purpose of prophecy was. His reply was, I tell you these things now and WHEN they happen, they will believe. So, lets hold off our opinions for a while and see if these statements come to fruition. I personally believe we don't have long to wait.

              4. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

                Thank you for telling us what you like to believe. There are so many people of all faiths that have a great need to rely on the books they believe is scripture to them. That in itself can bring a lot of comfort to so many. 🤗

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  1. Najah P Tamargo's Avatar Najah P Tamargo

    Najah Tamargo-USA

    If he has a plan.....I don't think we are going to know until it's over!!!

  1. Merlin's Avatar Merlin

    We have major lessons to learn about things we must have forgotten. It could be a long ruff ride. It’s all up to us. “God” allows.

  1. Michael Howard Schrader's Avatar Michael Howard Schrader

    Remember - Ronald Wilson Reagan was 666. (Each name has six letters) Those who followed him (the GOP) are imps, with the manifestation of the reincarnation of the Lord of Darkness being DJT, "He who shall not be named".

    1. James Riggle-Johnson's Avatar James Riggle-Johnson

      "He who shall not be named," you mean Voldemort?

    2. EnjoyYourMilquetoast's Avatar EnjoyYourMilquetoast

      The number of the beast in Revelation is 616 in all the oldest manuscripts, and is a Gematria value for "Nero Caesar" in Greek and Hebrew, both of which like Roman numerals, used alphabet characters as numbers prior to the introduction of Arabic numerals. Other than the opinion of Irenaeus, the 666 version didn't appear in the actual text of Revelation until centuries later, resulted from the addition of a terminating Nun (נ) character (Neron Caesar) presumed to have a numerical value of 50. This was a mistake of Greek speaking people who didn't properly understand Hebrew conjugations nor the numerical values of Hebrew characters, given that the terminating Nun has a value of 700 rather than 50, and when included would make the number equal 1316 rather than 666. In any case the scholarly consensus is that the "beast" being referred to in the text is the Emperor Nero, because he had Christians rounded up and executed as criminals (according to Tacitus) after they fomented a violent riot and deliberately burned the city of Roman to the ground.

  1. Timothy C Stone's Avatar Timothy C Stone

    First, God is not into our politics. If God had anything to do with what is happening in America it would be a curse. Our country is being destroyed by a megalomaniac buffoon. If there was any spiritual influence it would be Satan trying to let Fascists take over.

    1. Keith David Harry's Avatar Keith David Harry

      The curse was erased in November 2024. Keep crying in your little pink blanket because your Marxist administration couldn’t pull the wool over reality. Keep hugging your teddy bear and sobbing because your far left fruitcakes couldn’t push their ridiculous split the nation agenda any further that they did. Look in the mirror, your socialist agenda is now as irrelevant as most of your diatribes.

    2. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

      It needs someone with strength to get this nation back on track from the previous inept administration. The real buffoon was that man that couldn’t hold a press conference, get his words straight, and know how to exit a stage. He was utterly embarrassing for our nation. We also dodged a huge bullet with the nation not voting for that word salad woman. We truly have been “unburdened by what has been”. 🤭

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      1. Religion as a Weapon is Wrong's Avatar Religion as a Weapon is Wrong

        The last guy and the female candidate were not cruel. Maybe you don't like them and they were flawed but they were not cruel. To find joy in the suffering and destruction of society is more than disturbing, Mr. Lionheart.

        1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

          Suffering is what people like Laken Riley, and others, had to endure by illegal immigrants let in by that beach dweller's administration. At last, we have someone with the gonads who knows how to "really" shut the border down, and arrest those that are complicit in criminal activity against our citizens. Mayorkas should have been impeached and jailed for life for conspiring to let in, and fly, criminals (now deemed as terrorists) around the nation.

          As for destruction of society, now watch over the next 4 years how USA gets back on its feet financially, as the swamp gets drained, and let's see if you are saying the same thing in 4 years time.

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          1. Mary P's Avatar Mary P

            Laken Riley's death was indeed a tragedy. But there are so many more tragic scenarios being put into place by this DOGE initiative. Simply stopping USAID, these are just a few likely results: -up to 18 million additional cases of malaria per year with as many as 166,000 additional deaths -200,000 children paralyzed with polio annually, and hundreds of millions of infections -one million children not treated for severe acute malnutrition, which is often fatal, each year -more than 28,000 new cases of such infectious diseases as Ebola and Marburg every year. So Lionheart, because these aid recipients are not in the US, does this make stopping our critical support acceptable? I'm fairly sure Jesus would condemn these changes as well as the inhumane treatment of non-criminal immigrants, many of whom have been living in this country peacefully, paying taxes, yet unable to navigate the legalization system. I honestly would love your input in how so many feel trump was sent by God!

            1. Lionheart's Avatar Lionheart

              It's my understanding that DOGE has been established to root out unnecessary spending of our tax paying dollars. As of March 4, DOGE's website claims to have achieved total estimated savings of about $105 billion, which it says is a "combination of fraud detection/deletion, contract/lease cancellations, contract/lease renegotiation, asset sales, grant cancellations, workforce reductions, programmatic changes and regulatory savings."

              As far as I am aware, DOGE will be evaluating all of our nations spending. This doesn't mean to say everything is being cut, as you might have implied, but will be evaluated, especially when we are in so much debt as a nation, and also knowing we are just not taking care of our own as well as we could with so many homeless on the streets, many of those being vets.

              From the list I have seen so far, which I am sure you also might have seen, there is some very strange waste of our hard earned money, which none of us knew about. I personally think it's way overdue to evaluate our nations spending, don't you?

              I personally don't believe in any deity as there is no demonstrable evidence to prove any of the world's gods that mankind has created are real, so obviously I don't subscribe to any form of "heavenly guidance" for any of the world's leaders.

              Thank you for your input, and questions. 🤗

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  1. Mary P's Avatar Mary P

    Christianity has become a tool used by the GOP to achieve their goals of keeping the population in line with their beliefs of a perfect America. What does this look like? White, heterosexual males at the top of the chain with everyone else "less than" and doing their bidding without complaint. Do your job without comment despite the owners of the companies getting wealthy beyond reason. There's nothing in the bible about those with the most money getting a pass into heaven. But the flock believes these people are from God, when as Sandra said, clear eyes will tell you that Trump is, indeed, the anti-Christ. He brings nothing but evil. There is not a kind cell in his body. Pope Francis sees him for what he is and has chastised US bishops for supporting his evil plan. It is no wonder that people are turning away from churches since there is not one single thing Christian happening as a result of the current administration. And Alford's encouragement to the federal workers losing their jobs is just more bluster trying to keep them in line rather than seeing the reality of this unwarranted money grab for the oligarchs of this country. Shame on every single lawmaker using God. And shame on the flock for not opening their eyes.

  1. Religion as a Weapon is Wrong's Avatar Religion as a Weapon is Wrong

    Inflicting pain and then explaining it as God's Plan is cruel, self-serving, and twisted.

  1. Patricia Ann Gross's Avatar Patricia Ann Gross

    I believe strongly in the law of the "squeeky wheel gets the grease," and what I believe is that through God's help enough people will be the squeeky wheel that can right this sinking ship. If every one of us posting vitreol and hatred for what is going on would use those keystrokes to contact their congresspeople to do something about it, because that is where the power lies. Congress can't keep their jobs unless their constituents reelect them, so letting them know that now is the time to act and put a stop to this is the only way to get things done. Funds are being held up by EOs, when the power of the purse lies with the legislative branch. The judiciary has already stepped in an ordered them released, but cuts are still happening by a stroke of the pen in the Oval Office rather than the US Capitol. So instead of complaining to social media platform or a blog post, send a message to your Senators and US Representatives. This is called the balance of power, and no one branch is supposed to have it all.

  1. Roy S. Thorpe's Avatar Roy S. Thorpe

    Just some deception and mistrust planted by the antichrists foot soldiers!

  1. Michael Arthur Lueras's Avatar Michael Arthur Lueras

    "The Will of God is ever done." (Quran 76:30) But what is the Plan of Allah for The World starting in The 7th Century? "I will fill Hell with jinn and humans all - a multitude from every community." (Quran 7:18) Amen?

  1. Warren Calvin Wall's Avatar Warren Calvin Wall

    This is, by far, the most entertaining comment thread I have yet to participate in. Thank you! 👏👏👏👏👏

    All of this talk of democracy this and democracy that. Thankfully, our nation is a Constitutional Republic with democratically elected representatives. Those democratically elected representatives do not control all of the management of government functions. Democracy is exactly what has brought about the necessity of cleaning the house and removing the corruption and graft. The simple fact is that the vast majority of the population is mediocre at best. When you let mediocrity choose who govern us, you get mediocre government. A mediocre government is easily infected with corruption and graft. Our society has been infected with decadence. It seems historically familiar for some reason. 🤔

  1. Shawn David Spencer's Avatar Shawn David Spencer

    Is this God's plan that is leading to the loss of jobs across the federal government? No it definitely is not. In fact it is being done in mockery of God's actual plan. God has laid out his will to the Trump administration very clearly. His will and path laid within the hope of a young man who held him dear to his heart, they ignored that. His plan involved an inquiry as to how Trump managed to supercede the laws of man in this country to become president and to recognize the flaws in their legal system and acknowledge the fact that there are many innocent people in jail and prisons who were convicted under these same corrupt laws and review their cases as they may have been wrongfully incarcerated. They ignored that as well. What Trump is doing right now is crippling the branches of government with new inexperienced people in positions of authority so that when his European associates come to challenge the system of government for the crimes they have committed against other countries we will have an inexperienced group of people unable to properly address the situation. It is their will be is working towards not God's. Even worse he has sided with the forces of the Antichrist and is preparing the way for his rise to power. His stand against the Ukraine and zelensky is crippling their situation as well and his being convinced to step down will leave a power vacuum wide open in the very region that the blessed mother Mary had warned the Fatima sisters that he would rise from. I do not see the prophecies of God being fulfilled here. I see the prophecies of man and their ambitions being fulfilled here. I will not stand for this so I must be leaving you all for a time so that you are not persecuted for being affiliated with me. I know you all stated that you are prepared to do God's will no matter the cost but as a man of God I cannot ask that you step into the flames with me here as I stand against the forces of darkness itself. However I will not turn down such dedicated help in this situation either. I am not checking with God to ensure this is his will for me, I already know his answer will be that he does not condone acts of violence and especially not ones that could lead towards war. That is not my goal and never has been, I seek to tear down the system of corruption without the loss of life. I know it is possible we almost did it during the January 6th revolution. One man died in that event and it probably could have been avoided had Trump not stepped in and stole the center stage and declared himself leader. You know the one thing that I'm sure is a part of God's plan, me. All my life and the suffering and tragedies, all the evil that I have witnessed take over the innocent and force them into their ideals. God was molding me with a sense of justice that cannot be corrupted. It cannot be swayed to fit the ideals of politics and is built by a righteous heart that yearns for peace not conflict, peace not anarchy. we are legion For we are many and we will never be silent expect us

  1. Patricia Sydney Solis's Avatar Patricia Sydney Solis

    It’s God’s plan to defund the taxpayer corporate welfare Musk the Moocher sucks off of for his private pleasure. It’s God’s plan to deport the unelected Musk back to S. Africa. #CutTheMusk before we all are forced to take Russian lessons.

  1. Douglas Robert Spindler's Avatar Douglas Robert Spindler

    God had a plan for this country called Manifest Destiny - But people found out it was bad, really bad.

  1. Matthew Mastrogiovanni's Avatar Matthew Mastrogiovanni

    Ya know ... God and Trump are a lot alike, so, maybe Trump is God's plan. They're both narcissists, they're both vengeful, they both have a history of failure. They're both for eliminating large swaths of people. They both have the commandment of worship them above all others or else. They both encourage violence against non-worshipers. They both get their followers to commit atrocities. Their worshipers cannot be reasoned with and will challenge this statement.

  1. Warren Calvin Wall's Avatar Warren Calvin Wall

    You do know that "under god" was added to the Pledge of Allegiance in the late 1950s, right? It was added by a conservative Republican president.

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