Is a jewelry company featuring a lesbian couple in a commercial “normalizing the LGBTQ lifestyle,” or simply advertising to an underserved market?
Just in time for Valentine’s Day, anti-gay activist group One Million Moms’ latest crusade is against jewelry maker Pandora over their latest ad campaign, "Loves, Unboxed."
The roughly 90-second commercial shows a variety of happy, smiling couples exchanging jewelry – including a female couple dancing and embracing.
You can see the ad in question below.
Now, the group has started a petition protesting the company’s “flaunting” of same-sex relationships in their face… a petition which more than ten thousand individuals have signed in a matter of days.
The “Blatantly” Gay Ad
“Jewelry company Pandora, through its liberal advertising choices, is attempting to normalize the LGBTQ lifestyle,” begins the petition on the One Million Moms website.
Decrying the intimate embrace of a lesbian couple early in the jewelry ad as “blatantly [throwing] homosexuality in the viewer’s face,” the group insists that “Pandora should avoid aiming to please a small percentage of consumers while pushing away conservative customers.”
“It is also of great concern that this commercial is airing when children are likely to be watching,” they said.
Some 13,000+ individuals have signed the petition, “urging Pandora to pull its LGBTQ-inclusive ad immediately.”
Pandora has yet to respond.
Advertisers Walk a Fine Line
It isn’t just the jewelry world that is pivoting towards more inclusive content. LGBTQ+ acceptance has skyrocketed in the last decade, and companies are taking note. Family-focused brands like Disney and Hallmark are including gay characters in their stories, helping reduce stigma against the LGBTQ+ community.
A cynical reading of the situation is that companies – always on the lookout for profit – simply see an underserved market that is now relatively politically safe to market to, and are doing as much.
But there is still the risk of running afoul of religious consumers, some of whom view LGBTQ+ themed advertising as advancing a so-called "gay agenda" that poses a threat to the nation's moral fabric.
And this group's buying power is real. Just look at Bud Light, which is still facing financial repercussions for partnering with transgender influencer Dylan Mulvaney.
The petition’s authors argue that by embracing the relatively small LGBTQ+ community, Pandora is alienating the much larger Christian community.
But with LGBTQ+ acceptance at an all-time high, and “none” is now America’s fastest growing religion, some advertisers think that excluding the LGBTQ+ community poses a greater risk for businesses in the long term.
What is your reaction? Is the jewelry ad offensive, or is it just an expanded celebration of love that is fast becoming normalized?
273 comments
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James S Weaver Jr
I have to shake my head about the complaint that the ad “normalizes” same sex relationships. Since the beginning of recorded history there have been same sex relationships and they were considered normal in many cultures. How does a group of fundamentalists from one of hundreds of practicing religions get to define what’s normal, and try to restrict their expression?
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Jerry M Choat
Jesus didn’t encourage his followers to accept any and all lifestyles. Rather, he taught that the way to salvation is open to “everyone exercising faith in him.” (John 3:16)
Exercising faith in Jesus includes conforming to God’s moral code, which forbids certain types of conduct, including homosexuality.
That's why God gave them up to disgraceful sexual appetites, for both their females changed the natural use of themselves into one contrary to nature; and likewise even the males left the natural use of the female and became violently inflamed in their lust toward one another, males with males, working what is obscene. Romans 1:26, 27.
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Carl Edwin Bruton
I just watched the ad. I saw a group of women "celebrating". Then I saw a couple of women embracing and kissing. Neither part was signaling nor "pushing" homosexuality. Now, if your sexuality is so weak that everything seemingly brings homosexuality to your mind, it seems to me ITS YOUR PROBLEM, no one else's. Everyone does not have to be like you to live in this world, nor do they have to conform to your belief system. Live and let live. Live your life as you wish and allow others the same.
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George S Guida
If God gave us free choice then God wouldn't lay down a bunch of "rules" we're supposed to abide by because that would mean God lied when He gave us free choice. Those "rules" are man made in order to fill the void in someone's EGO to push other people down in order to feel superior. And before anyone begins bashing those who are exercising their God given free choice consider this... The story is told that Jesus never had a girlfriend or never took a wife but instead hung out with twelve guys for a bunch of years. Sounds suspiciously gay to me...
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George S Guida
If God gave us free choice then God wouldn't lay down a bunch of "rules" we're supposed to abide by because that would mean God lied when He gave us free choice. Those "rules" are man made in order to fill the void in someone's EGO to push other people down in order to feel superior. And before anyone begins bashing those who are exercising their God given free choice consider this... The story is told that Jesus had a girlfriend or never took a wife but instead hung out with twelve guys for a bunch of years. Sounds suspiciously gay to me...
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Takaya Kovani Sweeney
Those ARE the fg kids…people kill me acting like their sons are the Second Coming and their daughters are Mother Theresa.
They’re kids, just like everyone else was, with developing hormones and curiosity about their bodies and others bodies.
Unless people want them to self-flagellate, I’d say let them be…enough with this hypocritical faux Quakerism bs.
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Sherri Wetsch
These One Million Bigots are tired of things being thrown in their face? What about people who are doing their part to make society a little less ugly, they have cruelty and intolerance thrown in theirs and that's ok? They are worried about children being influenced and corrupted, by what? I would much rather have them exposed to love in all forms than the hideous world of bigotry and hate. The bigots and homophobes are way more concerning I'd rather think
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Rev Ned
Republican “Christians” are, IMHO, a daily source of humor for me and multitudes of others.
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Cynthia Mandello
Those of you quoting Roman's 1:26 should stop & think.
Did JESUS say any of this? I admit, I have issues with ALL of Paul's reachings; he's the ONE who said priests shouldn't marry and women shouldn't preach. I find him judgemental and arrogant.
I only read the words written in red...Jesus preached love, acceptance and more love. He wanted us bathed in love.
In truth, I no longer attend or believe in any biblical interpretations or religious sects. I especially do not follow any of the money hungering Evangelicals that demand your money and won't open their doors to hurricane victims because of their new carpet.
Evangelical men will always oppose any action or thoughts that threaten their balance of power, regardless of the words of Jesus.
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Daniel Gray
whats the fuss, you dont want to watch the commercial, thats what the remote channel changer is for.
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Pamela Kay Waters
Have to
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Beth Curtis
I see nothing wrong with the add, To me, it is about time.
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Pamela Kay Waters
Add or Ad
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The Marriage Minister
This is the 21st. century. Hate has run amok between the GOP and White Christian Nationalists, so called conservatives have been a hot bed of misinformation and lies. If you are truly living a godly life you would accept everyone. Remember this? Everyone is equal in God's eyes and we are ALL created in God's image. But only a few
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Pamela Kay Waters
I can't believe how sick this country has become. It has evolved into something that is despicable. No wonder the kids these days are so screwed up. They think boys are girls girls are boys some even call themselves furries. They even put litterboxes in bathrooms for the messed up ones in schools. Now you tell me who is the bigot and wrong person. You people have all been brainwashed by this sick society. What happened to the old days when things were normal and things that should be kept at home should be kept at home.
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James Riggle-Johnson
Pamela, there is not one litterbox in one school in the entire country. Children are not going around thinking or chosing to be cats. That was some made up bull by some right-winger to scare people. This is what's insane, people believing something so rideculous. Look up what a Furry is. You'll find it's a sexual game adults play. Usually striaght adults.
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Pamela Kay Waters
No I won't
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James Richard Munro
Way to Go Pam. Couldn't have said it any Beter. Pastor Jim
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Christopher Michael Norton-Beavers
The "Karen's and Ken's" that are complaining about this commercial need to take a chill pill and STFU!
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Betsy Huggett
For the love of all that is holy and proper use of words, learn the difference between there (place), their (belonging to them), and they're (contraction for they are). I beg of you...
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Edward M Nash
Let's exercise some freewill along with a little common sense and a touch of reality and not be led by the nose by advertisers looking to market jewelry to a newly created demographic. Selling it to the weak minded that you have to be a progressive thinker to grasp the new normalcy. Far right religious hate speech? No I just won't be a sucker to a marketing campaign or the far left suckers they seek to exploit. God gave you free will and endowed you with right to live free. I believe he(she or it) wants you exercise both firmly planted in the real world.
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Rev. Rooster
Rev.Rooster All I'm going to say is, the Bible says it's wrong, and our kids see this, and brings them confusion.....
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Tonise Ward
It didn’t cause any confusion for my kids. I raised them to be strong confident and have their own relationship with God not just go by what I say but talk to him also. It’s sad your kids are so easily confused.
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James Riggle-Johnson
Rev. Rooster, the Bible did not say homosexual. That word was added in 1946 and many theologians believe it was mistranslated. They were talking about pedophilia, specifically gladiators raping boys. Besides, the sections of the bible that cover this topic were written centuries after the days of Jesus. God didn’t write the bible, man did.
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Pamela Kay Waters
Well said
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Christopher Lee Campbell
Wait, folks, is this 2024 or 1924? There are gay people in our population and they have the same capacity to love as others do. Let's step back and have a second look at the opponents. They claim to be Christian, and yet they ignore the generous teaching of their eponymous prophet, who preached love and acceptance of even the sinners and marginal and instead go digging in the Old testament for cryptic words of condemnation. I always wonder why such people are so emphatic about what they are against, and not more active practicing what they are for.
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Shannon McLaren
Love Soothes
Hate Seethes
I hear more animosity from those who claim to follow Jesus. I see more animosity from those who claim to follow Jesus. I feel more animosity from those who claim to follow Jesus.
What did Jesus claim to follow? Did he Soothe or Seethe?
Why do we try to choose and judge how others know love?
I'm perplexed at how hypocritical Hate shows up. They claim their hate and Seethe over Love, they "preach" that Love condemns and judges. Using the bible and Jesus to back up the fire in their passion towards harming the spirit of another.
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Pamela Kay Waters
And what do you think his father would save about this abnormal acts? Remember what his word in the bible says. No I'm not a bible banger. I'm still on the fence about religion.
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Patti Anne Lisenbee
considering the word wasn't supposed to be 'homosexual' but pedophile, but was left as is because the wrong sentiment was already set in, it is man, not god, who caused the whole problem. Homosexuality has been part of humanity ever since it began. It is also prevalent in animals, over 1,500 species as of last count. So what that you can't reproduce in homosexual relationships? Not everyone wants children, and a lot of people want to adopt or foster. All are ways to have children. I'm sick of the hatred against people who are different. From being left-handed, to just being a woman, to being a different skin color, to being other-sexual, white people have tried to keep the world strictly to themselves. All white, all Xian, all heterosexual. Too bad gawd created all different colors and sexes. did you know that there is an organism that has 9000 sexes? I just read about it in a science article, so I don't remember much, but your gawd made that! (according to your belief, that is...) Love is love is love. No one has the right to dictate who you can and can't love (although you try your hardest.) If you choose to love the opposite gender, that's ok. If you choose to love the same gender, that's ok too. It's no more wrong. Sex isn't only for procreation, you know. your gawd put all those nerve endings in genetalia for a reason. Ever read the Song of Solomon? If not, maybe you should. As for me, I am Bi and proud of it. I am also Pansexual - I can choose to love anyone, any gender, any skin color, any belief system, if I feel they are worthy of it. If I feel they are not, well, I don't have to love them, now do I? Let people love whoever they want! And if jewelry companies decide to pander to different types of couples than you approve of, simply change the channel adn watch something you approve of. It's that easy. But we LGBTQ+ are here to stay, so get used to it. Just like you got used to lefties and colored skin.
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Tabitha
"Thousands of Christians" need to get over themselves. Idiots
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Robert Enge
minister Robert Enge you CAN'T CROSS THE LAW THAT GOD WROTE FOR HIS CHILDREN SINN
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Robert Enge
yes, the law is very real the ten command they not looking at the law god wrote for his people they are so wrong.
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Rev Samantha Counihan
everyone deserves love including LGBTQ, the kids are watching cis gender couples doing same thing, they can watch gay, lesbian, bisexual, trans, and queer do this as well, thats not a risk, theres no sex in the ads thus its harmless, also i would buy from pandora
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Marathuzula
And pretending you got knocked up by your imaginary friend isn't any worse than just admitting you were slutting it up on the streets before marriage.
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Cynthia Mandello
Love is love. Jesus said there was only two commandments: love God & love your neighbor. Jesus wouldn't have condemned the love between anyone. He also said not to judge.
Quite honestly, I fail at the "not judging" part. These people who spout off about God & the Bible are clearly picking & choosing. The Bible condones: slavery (& has specific rules), sending bears to eat children, sending a husband to war so another man can covet his wife, slaying hundreds to collect their foreskin, giving your Virgin daughters to a drunk mob so you can sleep, killing first borns who aren't like you, sacrificing people & animals, etc.
It also ONLY calls out men sleeping with men; says nothing about women. These are all people who in order to feel righteous have to feel "better than another".
They should ALL take front roll seats in "The Church of Everyone's Damned But Me".
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Tonise Ward
Religion is about rules. Christianity was supposed to be about a relationship. A private intimate relationship between the person and thier creator. Not the world. Let God be the truth and all man be a liar. Whatever God tells them in thier private relationship with him is thier truth. If he has not convicted them that’s thier buisness. He has different things he wants for different people. That’s why we are not all born the same. It would be tragic if we were. We are called to love. Love does not judge. We are told not to judge others lest you be judged the same way. We are called to be examples of God himself yet so many blasphemers walk around polluting the hearts and minds of people with religious garbage pretending in thier arrogance and pride that a religion is who God is. Filled with hate and bitterness and pain creating it for others. Pushing people away from a God that loves them and treasures them no matter what. When God himself would never. It’s sad. Honestly if your child is so easily influenced you have bigger things to worry about than a commercial. Go home focus on being a parent and get out of other peoples bedrooms. Raise children to love be strong and to be so secure in who they are they don’t focus on others in such a hateful way. Teach them to deal with pain and issues in life within themselves not taking it out on others spreading pain around. Let them be who they are and be happy so the cycle doesn’t continue. I have eight children they love all accept all. They are shinning examples of Gods love evident in every aspect of thier lives. I am great full they would never attack someone for loving somebody. Remember these people are not God and they don’t speak for him. He is love not hate. This is heartbreaking. Father God we come before you in the name of Jeshua your son known as Jesus of Nazareth who died for us and made us clean and holy in your eyes lord, to touch the hearts and minds of all these people who are petitioning. We ask that you help them to love and see how they may be wrong and judging unfairly. We ask that you help them to remember who you are and how you love. To remind them they are to be an example of that love not of hate. We pray father that anyone offended by thier actions receives healing and is protected from the pain it may cause them. We ask that you let them know it’s not you and that your love is not like this. I thank you for being an amazing God who loves all people equally. We know it hurts you to be misrepresented in such a way. For all the children that may or may not be affected by this commercial we ask thier parents focus on raising them and helping them to not watch so much tv and to be more secure in who and what they are. We ask that you help them find thier strength and peace in life and to not be so easily affected by things around them. We thank you and love you, Amen
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
@Ward ‘ Christianity was supposed to be about a relationship. A private intimate relationship between the person and thier creator.’
If so, why that long harangue? Having that private conversation with Mr. Magic in public doesn’t seem PRIVATE. However it does seem hypocritical.
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Tonise Ward
Thank you so much for your opinion. All have value and all are appreciated. Since you’re confused I will explain. I have found that often times praying for those who are hurting helps them to feel comforted. Thus my public prayer. I however recognize that for some reason it bothers you. Definitely something you should work on, until then I’ll pray for you privately.
As far as being a hypocrite. There are layers . While I may sleep with my husband in private my affection and conversations are often shown or heard in public. This is not hypocrisy. It’s simply a sign of the fact we are together and you can see it however I don’t need to tell everyone I love him or about our private conversations that would be Wierd right? There are intimate details of a relationship and public ones. That prayer was public and it was an expression of my love and compassion for those who are upset and hurting. The prayer I have for you will be private, between me and my Lord and savior. I hope that’s a bit more clarity for you. God bless.😁
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
@Tward You said ‘ I have found that often times praying for those who are hurting helps them to feel comforted. Thus my public prayer.’
The bible says… “And when you pray, you shall not be like the [b]hypocrites. For they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the corners of the streets, that they may be seen by men. Assuredly, I say to you, they have their reward. 6But you, when you pray, go into your room, and when you have shut your door, pray to your Father who is in the secret place; and your Father who sees in secret will reward you [c]openly. 7And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.
8“Therefore do not be like them. For your Father knows the things you have need of before you ask Him.”
Guess this is one of the cherries that decided not to pick, huh? Get thee behind me ye hypocrite!
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Yvette Frances Moreel
There is no boundary to love. Regardless of what your preference is let us live in a world of equality, love, and kindness. There is no rule to loving another. It is not our judgement. Enjoy life and everything it offers,especially love.
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Amber Fry
Please, people really gotta learn to mind their own lives and stop trying to force it on others.
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Cyril R. VanKeirsbelk
Why does anyone care that a pagan holiday acknowledges homosexuality? The Bible says NOTHING about women who love women.
On religious grounds there isn't a leg to stand on.
Other people are not required to follow your religion in the US of A. If you don't like something, don't do it.
Homosexuality is not a choice, you are wired that way or you are not. God made them that way, who are you to argue with the will of God? Love thy neighbor. Judge not yest ye be judged. Do unto others as you would have them do unto you.
You don't have room in your heart for Jesus and hate. Pick one or the other. If you choose hate, stop calling yourself Christian because you are no longer one.
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Paul
Nice ad. If you think homosexuality is a sin then I won't try and change your mind but it's not for you to judge or dictate to others. If it puts you off buying Pandora jewellery then don't buy it. Simple. You have free will. Don't want to hear your whining.
In the UK this ad wouldn't attract so much as a blink. Few people care. It's a healthier place. At kids football (soccer) we have same sex parents, mixed race parents, single parents. They're all just parents. No-one is shunned or treated differently.
I wonder how many of the complainants would have objected to a mixed race couple being depicted.
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Tonise Ward
They were mixed race couples.
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Paul
Even better. Did people complain about that?
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James Riggle-Johnson
Nope... LGBTQ is the new scary thing people are using to elect conservatives. They are the new "It's okay to hate" craze going on here. It's very sad.
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James Thomas Mann III
I believe you are speaking of the law according to the Old Testament. Technically this means anyone who has not accepted Jesus Christ. Jesus was the new covenant negating the need for anything beyond acceptance of him. Not by works but by grace are ye saved. Remember the thief who was saved on the cross?
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Steven Ferrell
I think it is wrong to promote sin as being alright, but that is my own feelings and to each their own. I believe we are to love the sinner, but hate the sin and to me homosexuality is sin. If we look at Jesus and the woman who was going to be stoned, after he spoke and the crowd left, what did Jesus do, he told the woman to GO AND SIN NO MORE.
We can love the sinner without accepting their sin and condoning it.
I know some here will disagree and that is between you and God.
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Joe Bennett
Do you recall the story of the speck in the eye? It ends by saying remove the board from yours before you try to remove the speck from your neighbor's eye. In other words, Make sure you are on the right track before you try to correct the path of another.
To Put it plainly....... You should mind your own business and leave the business of others alone.
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James Richard Munro
Hi Joe. Sometimes the truth hurts, huh! Pastor Jim
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
@ Ferrell “…. and to me homosexuality is sin.”
To you. Knock yourself out. But keep in mind that 1) that’s the very definition of a subjective statement, 2) don’t be surprised that when you express such opinions a large portion of the world considers such a statement as a mark of a dolt with an antiquated worldview and 3) although you can exercise your right to free speech that others will quite often point out items 1 and 2 above, sometimes in a less civil manner than I have just done.
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David McHaley
Gay is not normal. Never has been. I hold no hate towards gays, but what's hurting our children is making the lifestyle normal. Pushing that on children is not only perverted, it is evil. Children should be kept away from any sexual discussions. They are children and sex is inappropriate to discuss. They dont understand those things yet. And any teacher who pushes this on them should never be allowed in a classroom. I have many gay friends, and they know how I feel on the subject. They are still my friends. But, if you proclaim to love God and his word, you cannot justify that it is normal to be gay. Deuteronomy tell us it is an abomination. The word means un- natural. And if you really ponder the subject honestly, you know that it is un- natural.
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Anisahoni
What's hurting our children is the fear of being massacred in school. Gay people don't go around murdering people with weapons of war. Remember the motto of our ULC? "We are all children of the Universe"? Our ULC and ministry supports the LGBTQ community. Children should be educated about sexuality when age appropriate. Goodness gracious, most girls begin their menses around age 11-12 and need to be educated about their bodies prior to onset, sexuality, and how to be protected from real sexual predators. Same for boys. Catch up.
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James Riggle-Johnson
David, children in school are not receiving instructions on how to be gay. It’s not happening.
1) What’s actually happening is when a child thinks they are LGBT they are told they can’t talk about that. When little Timmy talks about his two dads, he’s told you can’t talk about that. Yet, little Sally can talk about her Mom and Dad. That teaches shame.
2) God did not write in the bible that being homosexual is an abomination. Some guy who was disgusted by it wrote it down claiming it was the word of God.
Stop teaching shame… stop pretending God said things that he didn’t.
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James Riggle-Johnson
Ps... you cannot teach someone to be gay. They either are or they are not. It's really that simple.
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Thomas Edwin Peterson
Imo those taking much offense at the ad. are akin to those taking offense to the Taco Bell Chihuahua ad's of the past. This world will never be perfect. I am conservative but I don't take offense to the ad. Find other things to complain about that have large impacts in our lives. The basic infrastructure of the US is failing and deteriorating and little is said. We must pick our fights (sic) wisely as it were. not taking offense at things we see during a moment on TV. TR's addage "speak softly but carry a big stick" is appropriate IMO Peace be with you.
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Corina Bennett
My two cents: This ad does not advertise gay couples. Because a woman gives a gift to another woman and a grateful embrace for each other does not stipulate sexuality. It would be sexual if they would kiss for example and even then that’s nobody’s business but theirs. Besides why are u having children in front of TV?? There is certainly more to do for kids then watching TV.
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Anisahoni
You are right. They use TikTok which is more explicit.
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Theresa C. Marquess
Pandora will learn that water seeks its own level...
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K. Doc Patterson
God loves all his children unconditionally! We walk by faith not by sight. We are made in his image. So love thy neighbor as thy self. Put you man made rules aside. We did this to indigenous and slavery, because of thoughts of superior faith.
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Ari Joseph Bertine
Marketing directly to lesbians is a brilliant move. Women are by far the majority of the jewelry market's target demographic; cultural standards in the USA allow women more license for wearing more types of and quantities of jewelry. A lesbian shopping for her wife is more liable to see something in the store that she wants for herself than a man shopping for his spouse, because jewelry stores are 90+% women's jewelry. The chance of a multiple sale is higher if women are buying for women.
As for "shoving homosexuality in our faces", I have clear memory of having heterosexuality shoved in our faces for the last five decades, so a rare instance like this is a mere drop in the bucket. It's a shame that organizations claiming to be protective of children don't find something truly problematic to go protest, like threadbare school lunch funds, or the countrywide epidemic of understaffed and undertrained CPS divisions unable to prevent deaths by child abuse or neglect. Kids are dying in horrible ways every day, and two women kissing have nothing to do with that, so One Million Moms needs to get their act together and quit wasting everyone's time with nonsense like this.
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David McHaley
Heterosexualality is normal. There's nothing wrong with being normal.
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Anisahoni
And being a member of the LGBTQ community is just as normal and supported by the ULC remember?
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David M Hines
There's a name for the people who are so worked up over the existence of LBBTQ+ folks. That name is bigot. If these Christians ever wonder why fewer and fewer young people identify as Christians every year, attitudes like this have a lot to do with it.
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Gerard J Babin
We need to stop pushin this crap on our children, it' bad enough the government is strangling parents rights.God loves the sinner but abhores the sin.
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Anisahoni
That is YOUR religious view but doesn't hold up on an organization like the ULC which supports LGBTQ rights. You really do not belong here. The ULC supports human rights including member of the LGBTQ community. You can take your hate elsewhere.
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Ronaldo
A question that has not been answered is; had the ad not shown a lesbian couple, would it have affected sales? Those I know in the LGBTQ group have been seeing Valentine's Day and other jewelry ads for decades that only showed heterosexual people, and they still bought the products without being offended by the ads. The ad couldn't impact me either way, because after 45 years together, my lovely bride has plenty of jewelry and doesn't need or want any more.
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Merlin
Genetic predispositions influence a person sexual persuasion. Society (religious doctrine) has condemned those who are different. “Heresy” still looms in our society.
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Stewart Newall
Be together be happy being in love but don’t indoctrinate your children into doing the same thing before they become adults. Let them be children don’t put gay things in front of them don’t put lesbian things in front of them let them be children. Send him all my love to everybody in the world, doesn’t matter if you All Muslim. Zionist Christian, whatever religion, you are. Let’s just put weapons down shake hands and live together no fighting no indoctrinating everybody nowadays, should love everybody children are taught to hate, it’s not natural. Let’s just stop fighting all over the world come together stop people having more than other people people in our power to come down to our level. You can’t take your money with you when you’re all rich. It’s just for somebody else to steal, let’s stop it
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Anisahoni
Seriously, it's better to indoctrinate children to hate those who are different? Besides, children can't be "indoctrinated" to become gay. Learn a little and be more concerned about our kids being murdered in school by gun nuts.
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Ian Mcleod
I do believe opinions are at times most destructive and the resulting divisions havent changed over history but lets get back to basics shall we,instead of attacking/defending either side lets remember what a fantastic person once said:- Judge not..lest you be judged, now who of you out there want to disagree with the word of Jesus, anyone. .
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Charles Leroy Good II
Again, I feel the hate when groups like one million moms judge others. Didn't Jesus tell us not to judge? Didn't Jesus say love your neighbor as yourself? I am gay and I am Catholic and I feel loved by God because God created me. Why should you judge this as wrong? Why are you so filled with hate?
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Rev. Rory
Believe whatever you like, but people are who they are. They exist. There was a time when the nuns in Catholic schools would hit you across the knuckles with a yardstick if you wrote with your left hand. Apparently, left handedness was a sign of Satan. There are people to this day that believe that. You can force someone to only write with their right hand, but it will never be natural for them to do so. One fast clip within a commercial of a gay couple (who may or may not be gay - they are actors) doesn't force anyone to be anything other than what they are. If the "million mom's" want to get upset, let them. I have sympathy for their children because some of them will be gay. That's just how it is.
I remember asking my mother about some of my friends and neighbors that followed different religions - apparent to me by their clothes or food choices, etc. She had a good answer. She said that different people had different beliefs and that was fine, it didn't change how we did things. I had a smart mom.
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Rolando Couce
This country is so out of control since Biden and Democrats took over
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Anisahoni
Oh please. Don't make this a lame anti Democracy forum.
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Thomas P. Davis
God's word says the world wonders after the beast. Not that it wonders after some political party. Those are just puppets, whoever's team that you think they may be on. Look for the puppeteers, that are controlling the puppets and the naive public that believe what they are told on the news, and it doesn't make a difference what news you choose to listen to, watch or read.
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James Richard Munro
In the first place, LGBTQ is NOT normal behavior. It is perverted behavior. And why does the LGBTQ people think that you eighter love them or hate them? Mamy of us believe that thay need mental help. I don't hate them. I feel sorry for them for believing what they are doing is OK., and or correct behavior. It is a mental disease that needs treatment. I should be able to turn on my TV and not have to worried what my kids or grand kids are watching. The perversion needs to stop. Pastor Jim
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Anisahoni
James, let me inform you, that as a retired licensed and board certified psychotherapist in 3 states, with 30+ years of training and expertise with adults, children, adolescents and families, including military members and US Border Patrol, there is NO classification of mental disorder for being homosexual. No diagnosis exists to identify people as needing "mental help" as you posted. That is all made up by homophobic and fearful people. Those who rant the loudest against homosexuality are usually fearful of their own sexuality. In longitudinal research we have found that heterosexual men are sexually aroused when viewing films of lesbians engaged in romantic sex because of the men's level of fantasizing of being with 2 women at one time. They use the "caring about children" as a coverup.
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
Thank you Doc. The 'mental illness' thing was tossed out years (decades) ago. But let me ask you, is there a diagnosis for people that believe in an invisible sky person, an invisible eternal hell, human-like creatures with large, pigeon-like wings and little fat, baby ones? Isn't believing in a man walking on water, turning water into wine, curing leprosy and raising the dead some indication of some mental deficiency?
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
homosexuality is normal and it is NOT perverted behavior. people are born gay/lesbian etc. I believe that anyone who believes in an invisible being, who thinks that invisible being speaks, guides and judges them is severely mentally ill and possible dangerous to the community and SHOULD be institutionalized for their and our safety.
as for what you watch on tv, I bet it contains a lot of sexy women in skimpy clothing, war movies, killings, beatings, gore and atrocities because you consider all of THAT to be normal.
the perversion, and pastor jim needs to stop as well
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
@ Dr JJ ‘ I believe that anyone who believes in an invisible being, who thinks that invisible being speaks, guides and judges them is severely mentally ill and possible dangerous to the community and SHOULD be institutionalized for their and our safety.’
That’s a difficult thing to support. Freedom of worldview so to speak. But I do agree with discussions about placing religious delusions on the spectrum. All religious people are delusional, it’s just a matter of degree. Some of the spectrum deserves to be placed on the spectrum.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
Well, cowpies. Here I was being tolerant and @Ian McLeod had to start babbling on and questioning my character. And this was all done on what appears to be 3 or 4 sentences just strung all together with no punctuation. A writing style I call ‘Disturbed and homeless’.
Yeah, go ahead and institutionalize them.
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
My point was, if they can call homosexuality perverted, sinful, a crime against god, abnormal, sickness, etc then of course, I can call them mentally disturbed, insane, etc. They have their UNFOUNDED beliefs and I have mine. All's fair in war and war
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Russel A. Kester
James, when it comes to people who could benefit from psychological therapy, you might want to look in the mirror before passing judgment on others.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Amen.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
Do you mean… A man?
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James Riggle-Johnson
Lol! That was funny.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
‘ In the first place, LGBTQ is NOT normal behavior. It is perverted behavior.’ Displays of ignorance based on religious delusions made my decision to expatriate from the US much easier.
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Bridget Kielas-Fecyk
I think that add was absolutely BEAUTIFUL! So what that it's two women? It could've been two men for all I care. It showed love and tenderness. And that is beautiful.
Remember, being LGBTQ+ is not a "sin". Homosexuality is NATURAL. It happens in ALL species, including humans.
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James Riggle-Johnson
I keep seeing the words “sexual preference” but it’s not a preference, it’s biological. I was raised in a heterosexual household with no exposure to LGBTQ lifestyle. In fact, I was raised to think it was wrong, abnormal, and sinful. I grew up hiding that part of myself thinking I was bad, that I wasn’t trying hard enough. I prayed daily to not have these feelings, but they stayed. I was a child who thought God and everyone else would hate me if they found out. Fortunately, I discovered that there was nothing wrong with me. I was as normal as everyone else.
I keep hearing that we are pushing this lifestyle in everyone’s face, and to keep it in the bedroom. Don’t hold hands in public, and certainly don’t kiss in public. What would the heterosexual world think if they were harassed for holding hands in public?
You cannot make a straight person gay no more than you can make a gay person straight. We are not trying to indoctrinate anyone, we are trying to tell children they are beautiful the way they are… no matter what they are… straight, gay, or bi.
I say stop indoctrinating children with religion. At least stop telling them the bible is God’s word. God didn’t write it man did. The same type of men who write laws selectively granting or denying rights to specific groups.
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Nicholas J Page
Lets get into the 21st Century again people homosexuality is not a crime apart from Western Worlds It is a fact of life i have 2 gay girls living above me and they are the most delightful people to have around.As we have had bad neighbours before making a sick person with Mental Health Issues even worse Its all the media and do gooders that stir up these problems in the gay community they are here to stay if you dont like it either crawl back from your stone or go and live on another planet
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James L. Giberson
Let the gays advertise. Let them be. They have a right to be as miserable as the rest of us.
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David Arthur Lewis
Who Would Jesus Hate?
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Melinda Fulk
I suspect their noses are out of joint because the very few of the women in the add were like them. Pandora is trying to expand their brand and reach out to folks who aren't the PTA, Righteous-Church-Going helicopter soccer mummies who think that Pandora jewelry is just for them.
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Robert E. Polston
Hello Brother's and Sister's!
Greetings and blessings to you and yours! Blessings no matter if you are gay, lesbian, heterosexual, or even if you are so filled with hate and insecurity that you feel you must judge and condenm others who are different. Peace to all of you and kindness!
Love, Bobby
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Danny D. Maynard
Peace! 💜🤍☮️ r'Amen!
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Matthew W Meister
Thank you for these words. Your comments are why I look to this site.
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Colleen McAllister
I was given good advice long ago.
If you aren't planning or already having sex with someone then their sexual preference is none of your business. That is between them and God.
Get your own life and stop looking into others.
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Tecla Caryl Loup
As I like to say, keep your pointy little nose out of others' underpants.
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Pamela Kay Waters
Keep your sexual orientation to yourself. DO NOT confuse or influence our kids. It's always been a man and a women, WHY CHANGE and confuse and keep the uprise rising.
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Catherine
@Pamela Kay Waters
"It's always been a man and a women" Freudian slip? : . )
Where does this thinking come from? Nature, science, and history demonstrate otherwise. For many centuries. Probably reaching to the earliest human existence.
Thousands of years ago when death was imminent more often than not, do you think men or women denied themselves sexual pleasures when or where those were available?
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Matthew Mastrogiovanni
Can't we just declare Christianity a hate group and be done with it?
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Thomas P. Davis
It sounds a little like the pot calling the kettle black. when we point our finger at someone else, there is always three fingers on the same hand pointing back at us. A TRUE Christian would not hate. A true Christian has the traits of their heavenly father. The bible says that the heavenly Father is Love. We are told the story of the wheat and tares growing together until the harvest. Why the harvest? Because until the harvest you cannot tell the difference as to which ones are the wheat and which one are the tares.
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@Thomas P. Davis
Yet history of christianity is littered with hate and killing for profit in the name of God and Jesus. If only Jesus could see the magnificent architecture built to 'serve him'. And if only the money and labor that went into those travesties might have served all people. With a lot less killing and ugliness.
Not to say non-christian gods and goddesses aren't similarly used.
How do you wonder why there are individuals who refuse to align with any god, God, goddesses, and such?
I think the line is drawn where anyone expects what works for them should work for everyone.
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Thomas P. Davis
Yes, those wonderful facilities, it is a bit ironic since Jesus said He would never reside in anything built by man's hands. Look at all the money that some of these churches have, and all the poor people. I believe that is why the Lord says the poor we will always have among us.
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John Condron
This, Thomas P. Davis, is known as the "No True Scotsman" fallacy.
Look it up.
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Thomas P. Davis
Well, I looked it up and the only part of it that I may fit is the Scott's man part since my family heritage comes from that area. as far as the rest, I am proud to live in a country where at least for now we have some free speech. You are free to believe the way life has programmed you and I am free to believe the way life has programmed me. Which reminds me of a film that I showed to management years ago (you are what you were when.) The so-called professional say that we are programmed by the age of 7 to be what we are unless we experience a severe emotional crisis. Other educational professionals say that it is by the age of 2.
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Ari Joseph Bertine
I've been firmly neopagan for decades and at least half of my good friends are Christians. They are genuinely loving, accepting, thoughtful people who despise the hateful attacks of other Christians against marginalized groups, and stand with those in distress as allies. So you can't call Christianity itself a hate group, there's too much variation within it. Now, some sects of it are definitely hate groups. It's like a huge city with some really vicious neighborhoods and some lovely ones.
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Catherine
Other variations, still not about gift-giving on Valentine's Day.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/gory-origins-valentines-day-180968156/
"The Gory Origins of Valentine’s Day
The holiday began as a feast to celebrate the decapitation of a third-century Christian martyr, or perhaps two. So how did it become all about love?"
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Catherine
Though long, the commercial is well done.
From a marketing perspective, such a lavish presentation of apparently expensive jewelry feels unkind. As if that's available to the majority of viewers.
May be only about 20%ish of the U.S. is supposed to watch and buy for Valentine's Day? If so, I don't mind being a wet blanket.
A search online for how Valentine's Day was established might cool some jets and inspire consideration about what's really important between lovers. I wonder how many christians celebrate what is commonly thought of on St. Valentine's day.
https://bigthink.com/the-past/who-was-saint-valentine-the-patron-saint-of-lovers/
"First of all, there was more than one Saint Valentine. There were three.
All three men lived during the 3rd century A.D. Two lived in Italy—Saint Valentine of Rome and Saint Valentine of Terni—while the third resided in a Roman province in North Africa. So which Saint Valentine do we celebrate on February 14th?
That would be the life of Saint Valentine of Rome who, far from being lucky in love on February 14th, was beheaded.
St. Valentine of Rome was supposedly a temple priest who was executed near Rome by the anti-Christian Emperor Claudius II. The crime? Helping Roman soldiers to marry when they were forbidden to by the Christian faith at the time."
There's more if you want to find it.
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Eugene T Rice
I am an old, straight, male, Christian and I find this petition to be an abomination before God. I never remember Jesus, during the sermon on the mount, saying "Blessed are the bigots, for the world will bow to their phobias". It was always my understanding that religion was God's gift to bring humankind together. The greatest perversity is using religion as a club to drive people back into the darkness. As to explaining this social phenomena to children, I doubt that you have to worry. They are far more understanding than adults. They realize that humans come in many colors, sizes, and beliefs. When my daughter asked about the new group of Muslim students attending her school, I simply explained that those girls came from a tradition far different from hers. I added that she must respect their tradition, but follow her own. I also predicted that if she welcomed them, they would become great friends. I don't claim to be a prophet, but my prediction came true. . .
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@Eugene T Rice
I think Jesus would like that. And anyone could live with that manner of acceptance.
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Ellen B. Wentzel
I can't even believe this is a discussion. "Judge not, lest ye be judged."
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Catherine
It shouldn't be worthy of discussion. Even so, Jesus judged. I don't think we're meant to be entirely indiscriminate.
I do think Jesus' teachings - also found in non-christian cultures before Jesus came along - are universally wise and useful practices.
I also think more non-christians practice Jesus teachings than don't. If that were not so, there would be a lot fewer christians on this Earth.
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Another totally wrong cherry-picked bible verse out of context. If you'll read your bible in context and entirety, you;ll find the instruction to judge ther more times than there's bandwidth to quote here.
"Lest" it a literary conjunction that implies don't do something unless you're willing to be judged as well.
"Speak up and JUDGE fairly..." ~ Proverbs 31:9 "Do not judge by appearances, but JUDGE with right judgment.” ~ John 7:24 "You shall do no injustice in court. You shall not be partial to the poor or defer to the great, but in righteousness shall you JUDGE your neighbor. " ~ Leviticus 19:5 " For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to JUDGE? God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.” " 1 Corinthians5:12 "
No charge for this sermon, but the unholy act is not judging. The sin, according to scripture, is judging UNFAIRLY and with bias.
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Danny D. Maynard
I have yet to meet a self-avowed Christian who judges fairly!
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Robert E. Polston
AND "Go ye therefore and make disciples of all nations..." No discussion, no conversion of minds and hearts, no disciples. It's a two edged sword to be sure!
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
bit by bit, step by step the LGBTQ+ community is coming after you. we are the creative brains behind movies, music, TV, advertising. we convince you to see romcoms, drink champaign, take long walks hand-in-hand. in other words the LGTBQ+ community is conspiring to get breeders to hook up, to get pregnant and produce babies because about 5 our of every 100 babies is gay. don't blame us for gay, it's all your fault, the breeders. the holy roller cristo-fascists who only have sex to procreate and when they procreate...they contribute to the gay population. knock one up for jebus folks
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Kevin Lee Varney
Someone's sexual Preferenceis their own business not yours or mine if a woman is in love with another woman that's her choice, and the same thing for two guys if they are in love with each other, then that's their own business it's not any of my business. I am on the fence as they say because I am not going to pass judgment as the Bible tells me so. Transgender, is here and it's not going away and so is same sex couples , one group no matter how many people there are in it are going to change how a man or a woman feels on the inside ❤️ Chaplin Kevin Varney, United States Army Retired/ Disabled Veteran
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Danny D. Maynard
I once met a transexual in Lexington, KY in 1974-1975 time frame. She was beautiful, and was going through transition; she had breast implants already, as well as hormone therapy. She was saving up for her final transition surgery! I also met an intersex person there too! She ("Sweet Evening Breeze", her local name, told me that Johnny did not work any more but that Bessie did!) invited me to her 72nd birthday, where she had a fire dancer as entertainment! Whew! 💙🩷💜 It was Hot! 🔥 My grandparents told me about the existence of "hermaphrodites", as the Intersex were once called. I was 12 then. That was about 65 years ago! They have been around longer than me! These are all nice people too! 💋🩷💖💝☮️
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Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson
Big shrug here over the commercial and a laugh for the Outrage.
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Diane Minna LaFave
I think the ad was in good taste . It's not up to me to judge others about their sexual preference . Many prejudice is born from ignorance . I now of a couple that found out their son was gay. I reminded them that he is the same person they loved. That helped them to realize the love they always had for him was love they still felt for him. Their family has remained close . He and his partner will be getting married soon. I wish them a wonderful life.
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Joseph Wendell Ward
Being an advertising graduate, I agree that the graphics are very good. I say this: let he that is without sin cast the first stone. Does our God still love and value them, if the answer is yes then so should we also. HE said that the wheat and tare will grow together, and HE will separate at a time of HIS choosing. I don't fully understand that culture and sometimes my own prejudice comes out and for that I have to repent. Love is the cure and wherever that leads you is where you should stand.
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Gregory Ingram
Precisely Matthew 7 guides us in these situations.It is not for us to pass judgement.
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Lionheart
I wonder if that’s what he really said? I guess we’ll never know for sure. 🤷🏼
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Rev. MichaelRS
Pandora will find out like just like Anheuser-Busch/Bud Light did.
I'm not saying they will find out the same thing. I'm just saying that the market will tell them if that was a good idea or not.
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And like Victoria's Secret did?
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAA
Notice how fast they took down all their gay boy in panties posters in their stores once their marketing idea hit mainstream public?
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Danny D. Maynard
Well, most women would rather not have men looking down on them, even as a poster boy, like you!
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Russel A. Kester
The mere existence of people is not the same as blatantly throwing something in one's face. This group, 1 million moms, is way over the top. These type of persons are the ones who give a bad name to both Christianity and conservatism in general. They need to get over it. Hopefully, one day they will see the error of their ways and their own sins and stop judging others.
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Danny D. Maynard
It is wonderful their children are turning away from religion and mythology!
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Catherine
@Russel A. Kester
Doesn't christianity give christianity a bad name?
When I first read about Machiavelli the first thought was 'this is not new... who said those things before him'? Christians. Popes. Popes competing with popes. Christians competing with popes. Fake christians. And mule-like christians who smugly nod approval in support of their enslavement.
Machiavelli's guide for ruling was not born in isolation. To say humans aren't inclined toward violence when it suits them would be naive. Humans are spectacularly inventive when it comes to crushing spirits.
What christianity does very well, is beat browbeat the best out of people. Christianity is a tool used by tools, for fools.
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
but the in your face cristo-fascist billboards, tv adds and of course, what is planned for the super bowl, those brainwashing things that tell you you're a bad person because some random frigid fascist mom thinks gay is wrong and is willing to disown her own spawn because they are not hetero, those are alright. no wonder some of these kids commit suicide when they discover that their own mother doesn't love them and condemns them to hell (really, what could possible worse than being raised by cristo-fascist parents that hate you, and it's not even your fault.
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Thomas P. Davis
Could this be construed as generalization? I realize there is approximately 8 billion people on the planet and that I know very few of them, but of the ones that I know, they would give their lives for their children. I listened to an emergency room doctor years ago relating how the parents of what society would call social outcasts when meeting with him in the ER because their child was dying from an unexpected ordeal offered anything they had to save their lives. I watched on news last week the mother of a children convicted of a mass shooting defending him to the best of her ability. It seems to me we like to judge people that don't meet our likes and dislikes and use a cookie cutter and label everyone to our mindset.
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
so you've never heard/read where a gay child was kicked out of their house? and usually, a religious house.
I didn't say all or most parents would but it does and has happened. how would this be a generalization? cristofascists are horrible "people" and have been brain damaged because of and by their "religion"
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Thomas P. Davis
You are correct, I have never heard of one being kicked out. (I said could be, I said I do not know all 8 billion people) I do know individuals all over the world that are kicked out, tortured, killed, put into prostitution when they have converted to Christianity. (Moslems especially) The devil doesn't care whose life he messes up, just as long as he can mess them up and point the blame on someone else. I was just trying to say just because someone does it, doesn't mean that they all do it. My youngest brother is gay, in fact he started the gay movement in the college he attended. My mother never kicked him out or treated him or his lover any different than the rest of her six children.
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Gregory Ingram
https://www.thetrevorproject.org
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Brien
Where is the petition for blatant zealot hatred and bigotry? I'll sign that one. Peace 🕊️
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So your argument is that people don't have the right to hate or be biggots? If they don't have the right to their feelings, then neither does the LQBTG or whatever dumb string of letters the mental cases call themselves nowadays.
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Chris
They have the right to be hateful bigots. They don't have the right to make everyone else follow their hatred and bigotry. Of course, being hateful and bigoted is anti-Christ, which explains a lot about their "moral compass."
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Rev. Mike Eggleston
From the comments of Christians here, I'd say hatred and bigotry is a sine que non of Christianity.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Christians who truly love humanity are not bigots by condemning what is abnormal. It is the act. I haven't posted much because this blog is so anti- Judeo/Christian itbmakrs me sick. The world was better off when Christianity truly had a voice. That doesn't exist anymore. A nation has a right to protect itself from any type of attack upon its physical and moral character. One.minute a nation acts it's praised. The next day condemned. We see that with Israel today and the U.S. fighting or its survival at the border. And this whole movement against morals is being lead by the LGBTQIA (Alphabet people).
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John Condron
Yes, Keith Allen Steele Eash. The world was better off when Christianity truly had a voice.
I believe that period in European history is known today as the dark ages. The "crusades" and the Spanish Inquisition both represented high points in world history.
Ah... the good old days!
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Gregory Ingram
No love like Christian hate and murder am I right?
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Gregory Ingram
Again you make unhinged statements and the fact you brought up the maga border talking point tells me EVERYTHING I need to know about you. I will be disengaging with you at this point, as there is ZERO point to try and have any type of conversation with a magacultist.
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James Riggle-Johnson
Yes, Keith because Christians are persecuted, right? That’s called transference… with the persecutors claim to be the persecuted.
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
people can be bigots and hateful all they want, cristofascists are proof positive of that. the difference is you people want to make laws that affect what other people have a right to do, or be. maybe if you people stopped judging and trying to make certain beliefs and people illegal people would stop hating on you and stop blaming you for the worlds problems. in other words, maybe just do what your jebus asked you to do and love your neighbor
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Brien
Well I was going to respond, but I just go with what Chris said. Peace 🕊️
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Michael Burton
Same kind of fuss has been raised over the TV series "Alexander" (Alexander the Great) who apparently had a sexual involvment with a close companion. What's interesting is that the Greeks did not have a word for nor concept of homosexuality; to them it was just "sex". Then along comes the Christian Bible and all it's confusing directions and hidden meanings and all at once sex is something other than a basic urge and we have created---Sin! get off of it and get real.
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Catherine
@Michael Burton
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF6I5VSZVqc
John Spong, an Episcopalian Bishop and first to ordain an openly gay man, agreed the church created hell. He wrote some very enlightening books that expose hypocrisies, anachronisms, and bias. Didn't pretend to have an answer for everything. Probably one of few very religious types I could have a conversation with without wanting to plug my ears. Wish he were still around. I have questions.
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Danny D. Maynard
Yes, Hell was invented circa 1250 CE. Jesus was a practicing Jew, so he would not have had any concept of Hell, since even today, in 2024, the Jews still do not believe in Hell. There were 3 versions of Christianity that were invented by men: (1) the original apostles argued over allowing Gentiles into the newly invented mythology; (2) Saul/Paul took that version on the road, and added a bunch of stuff to it, and invented it the 3rd Pauline version which lasted until 325 CE, when the Roman Emperor Constantine decided to standardize all religions across the Roman Empire and then impose it upon the entire Roman population. It is at the Council of Nicaea that they newly invented the Trinity to appease the other mythologies that had multiple deities. They also moved Christmas to December rather than keeping it in the Spring near the time when they had to celebrate the death of their god(s) with both so close together. The Winter's "Festival of Lights", Saturnalia, during the Winter Solstice, was the perfect time for the planned liturgy and mythological story!
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Spong is a heretic. Pure and simple.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Don't just blame the Christians. Read any of the religious texts you will find a condemnation of the homosexual act. Not of the individual but the act itself. The Old Testament strictly condemns the act and those who don't repent from it.
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Gregory Ingram
None of the Old Testament law is binding on Christians today.
When Jesus died on the cross, He put an end to the Old Testament law Romans 10
All the sections of Leviticus that are used as a defense of this bigotry and hatred towards Homosexuals no longer apply and have never applied to Christians. Period.
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Echo
This is an undeserved market. Couples should be able to buy jewelry to celebrate their love. Congrats to their marketing team for showing another view with love.
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Catherine
UndeRserved?
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James Mounts
Wait, how can homosexuality be normal a la Dan Anderson, and at the same time be underserved a la Echo Daijo? If they are normal, then they are served by normal advertising. Only if they are abnormal should they need aimed, focus advertising. I could not care less who buys what from whom or who sells what to whom, but let's keep it out of my living room during family viewing hours, please.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
Sounds like the exact sort of thing Archie Bunker used to say. And we all loved to laugh at Archie’s ignorance.
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James Mounts
Dr. Meathead
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John Condron
Ah... the ad hominem attack. The last defense of the indefensible.
How very "christian" of you, James Mounts.
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James Mounts
So, being called Archie Bunker is allowed. but returning the favor by calling someone Archie's son-in-law is the attack. Either you are not familiar with the premise of "All In The Family" or you truly are a meathead.
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Rev'd Andrew
Except, you weren't "called" Archie Bunker. A little bit of reading comprehension goes a long way.
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Gregory Ingram
They didn't call you Archie Bunker they said your statement reminded them of something he would of said and that we often found his statements laughable.
Since you are being rude to two different people now over this supposed slight I'll just follow up with if the shoe fits...
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James Mounts
@Gregory Ingram, Rev'd Andrew
Same kind of nitpicking arguments I expect from a ten-year-old child. Notice I did not actually say you were a ten-year-old, and I did not actually say you were wrong. Adults have the ability to understand the intent of the words.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
That show was a satire of religiously delusional, racist, misogynistic conservatives. Meathead was the voice of reason.
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James Mounts
@Dr.Zerpersande, NSC Then why am I criticized for calling you "the voice of reason?" Doesn't seem reasonable.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
I didn’t criticize you for your comment. I just pointed out that ‘meathead’ was a compliment given the idea behind the show. Others are criticizing you. I just said that comments such as yours reminds me of Archie. Archie looked a bit like my dad.
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
but shows/movies etc that show women in skimpy clothes, bikinis is perfectly fine with you, right. and crime dramas, movies etc that feature guns, violence, killing is perfectly fine with you, right? and I bet you even limit the amount of factual information allowed in your house, right? and once the wife and kids have gone to bed, a little lesbian action or even straight prn is fine, right?
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Brien
I know this is going to sound funny coming from me, but concerning family viewing hours I agree with you. Advertising has become way to risqué during children hours. As I do not believe in brainwashing children, no matter who is doing it. Children are impressionable and should have a chance to have an opinion without brainwashing. Peace ✌
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Gregory Ingram
Ah yes the lets shelter our children from anything remotely sexual or two people showing love to one another, but it's fine to let them watch people being gunned down in the streets violence defense.
Perhaps if we stopped seeing anything remotely sexual as taboo we would have far less sexual assault or child sexual abuse in this country. More so when it is being committed by members of the clergy.
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Brien
No Greg, you missed the point in order to have a moment. You cannot shelter a child completely, that is not healthy. You can prevent exposure from happening all at once, which is also not healthy. Children require a lot of work. The idea is to create and nurture a well rounded individual. That is hard enough to do without all of the battles going on. So, lighten up. Peace ✌️
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James Riggle-Johnson
James, that’s like saying black people should be satisfied with white only ads. It’s about representation. If you see someone who looks like you then you’ll buy the product.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Homosexuality is lust, not love. Love procreates, lust goes against Creation.. one produces life. The other mocks it.
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John Condron
You are absolutely right, Keith Allen Steele Eash.
People too old to procreate should be prohibited from marrying, and those who are too old to procreate should no longer be considered married, because their relationships mock creation.
That would be completely consistent with your position.
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Lionheart
You can love someone, Sir Keith, without having to have the need to procreate. I bet Mr Jesus loved his disciples, and I bet they loved him.
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Gregory Ingram
This is the most ignorant statement in this entire thread from you.
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Christine Gladhill
People can love one another without procreation being involved. God created everything and I do not believe he did so just to condemn his creation from the get-go. I cannot abide the abrahamic "God" nonsense that God condemned his entire creation because some ancestor of ours ate an apple he didn't want them to eat and the only way out of it for us was for him to impregnate a human woman, and for us to murder his offspring so we could be forgiven that is just insanity! God so loved the world that he sent his only son to save it from himself lol. Y'all can keep that God to yourself! We are all his creations and loved equally even with our variances and foibles and everything!
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Here’s my view. The million moms group needs to mind their own business and keep their noses out of other’s bedrooms. The necklace is something I personally love, thank you for bringing it to my attention.
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I hear that faux excuse often.
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Chris
So? Hetero couples are in public all the time. Why can't same-sex couples have equality? If you don't like it, don't watch. Don't buy the jewelry. Boycott the stores. Isn't that what the "We Hate Cancel Culture" people do?
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@Chris Well said.
@AJ TV has evolved and gays are shown doing the same things as hetero couples. As for the street, if they’re having sex there it has gone a bit too far.
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Pamela Kay Waters
Everyone can be. But home is where you should only show your PDA. I don't care what other partner you are involved with. They never showed affection out in the open years ago and thats how it should stay.
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Matthew W Meister
I don't think I have ever heard anyone say PDA should be kept in the home. Specifically since PDA stands for PUBLIC Display of Affection. It is literally impossible to keep PDA in the home. From the time of Desi and Lucy, Mike and Carol Brady and beyond, the heterosexual community has thrown Public Displays of Affection anywhere they wanted and no one called them out for being inappropriate. Watch jewelry commercials from any major player in the industry and if you don't object to all of them, it is clearly the gender of the two people in this ad you have a problem with. Expanding your view beyond only yourself is an amazing feeling. Self-awareness is good, too. You should try it sometime.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
@Pam Didn’t get much attention from the boys when you were in your teens, huh?
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James Riggle-Johnson
I’m tired of heterosexual Christians are indoctrinating our children.
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Pamela Kay Waters
O M G. No it's the problem, people like you are. Keep it at home don't flaunt it. Just because it makes peole feel uneasy , put yourself in the other people's shoes. You are out for a walk with your young children and there are 2 males or 2 females sucking face and feeling each other up and your young children ask,,, what are they doing?
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Rev. Mike Eggleston
What are they doing? Demonstrating their love for each other. It should be obvious but true love is an alien concept for a lot of Christians.
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Gregory Ingram
And that is different from a 1 male 1 female sucking face and feeling each other up how? Inappropriate displays are what they are regardless of same sex couples or otherwise.This is an extremely bigoted response where you seem to be claiming that all same sex couples are just fornicating in public places. Trust me people have been doing this in public spaces far before today.
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Brien
Do you feel the same way when it's a hetero sexual couple?
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James Riggle-Johnson
That’s the problem, Pamela. If straight people are holding hands or sucking face you would have no problem with it. As for feeling the person up… sorry, but I do keep that in the bedroom. I live in a city with a large portion of the population is gay and I don’t see men or women on the street feeling each other up. I think you’re letting your fear of something you know nothing about control you.
If one of your children turn out to be gay, I’m sure they’ll live in fear of what you’ll think about them.
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Donald G Magel
Ease up folks.. …you can’t catch Gay! Really, you can’t. If you are really worried about it see a therapist to get help sorting your basic fears out.
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I hear that all too often as well. I bet you can guess my response to it....who's yardstick gets to decide what "public" looks like? Which moral compass shall be used? Who gets to decide all of that? As each year passes the old, outdated, restrictive, and bigoted views are falling away and being replaced by less hateful views. you don't have to agree with it, but you will have to adapt. Just as thousands upon thousands of people have had to "adapt" to false zealot beliefs furthering hate and fear. Those are facts. Peace✌
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Danny D. Maynard
Physician, heal thyself!
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John Condron
So, the 12 members of "One Million Moms" claims 14,613 signatures on their online petition.
I am one of them, as I signed with the name "Stop Hating" just a few minutes ago!
You have to wonder how many of the "signatures" on their petitions are actually people like myself, trolling them.
You also have to wonder if they care. Clearly all they really want is attention.
It's not like any of their petitions or boycotts have ever actually worked.
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Rev. Mike Eggleston
"One Million Mums" is just a pathetic little hate group who can't even count.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
Homophobia is the new racism.
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Robert James Ruhnke
Homophobia is an old component to racism. They’ve been together a long time.
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Amber Fry
Yes, and neither are new. Both have been around as long as different clans and ideas started forming. The fact is it's based in fear of things that are different and justifying those ideas through forcing laws through religious and government manipulation. Don't want it? Think it is wrong or unnatural? Don't do it. Leave others to their own. As long as it's consenting adults involved then leave them to their lives and carry on with your own as you see fit.
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Tecla Caryl Loup
Don't forget the control element. Making rules that target a group or an activity is a great way of controlling others. There have been many rules over the centuries about controlling people's sex lives. Thus you have them by the balls.
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James Riggle-Johnson
It’s not a preference. It’s not a lifestyle. It is biology. We were born this way and the sooner people accept that the sooner we can move on. Do you really think LGBT people want to be hated? Don’t you think we’ve tried it the other way and tried to pray away the gay? It’s not a preference.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
No, it’s not. But both are a form of prejudice. And both discriminate against a portion of the population due to stupidity and ignorance on the part of the oppressor. I remember growing up with a great majority of adults I was around being openly racist. And universally religious. And just as I never understood religion I never understood racism. Of course gays weren’t even discussed.
But as racism slowly became more socially unacceptable the ignorance and stupidity of this sort if person simply found different targets. Maybe 15 years ago my sister seemed to wear the friendship she formed with a black family down the street like a badge of honor. At the same time she was spouting off the conservative rhetoric of the far right about the problems caused by the growing Mexican population.
Orange is the new black, homophobia is the new stupidity for the racists. Stupidity evolves..
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Thomas P. Davis
There is only one race, THE HUMAN RACE.
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Gregory Ingram
This is a great thought, however, thoughts like this lead to not seeing the problems of racism and bigotry. Making statements like this minimizes the over arching issue we have in the US with racist bigotry. The I have a black friend therefore I am not racist defense.
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Thomas P. Davis
I too thought and still think that it is a great thought. I am a white guy that was raised until marriage in an all-black neighborhood. I have been to Africa on many mission trips as well. I thank God for all that because if I had not those life experiences, I would believe what I hear from the news and other people and think that they are different. I repeatedly watch when one nationality cries foul, but they treat themselves the same and that is ok. Maybe when we wake up and smell the coffee, we will realize that yes indeed, we are all made from one blood. In fact, I am here because my mother received a blood transfusion from a black woman. You should see the Kaos it caused in my work environment from the people from the stone age that said you cannot mix blood.
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Bond Wright
Include "sexism" in the list of bigotry. Do you have the courage? Consciousness about sexism: the last frontier.
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Danny D. Maynard
Are you sure about that?
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Rev. Michael Gerraghty II
Of course, But its not difficult to understand what they meant by that..
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He Who Breathes
Oh, and I am very happy for those that can still afford to purchase jewellery these days.
As long as they also give a good amount of charity.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
It’s been shown that non-religious individuals have more education than the religious sort.
It’s also been shown that those with college degrees earn more than those without such.
Perhaps this explains your financial woes?
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He Who Breathes
I wasn't necessarily talking about myself - your comprehension skills are poor if you consider yourself an "educated" person.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Not necessarily true.
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Ian Mcleod
Doctor Z, did you happen to actually read what you posted because I do have my doubts,attitudes and ill conceived ones simply prove theres something seriously wrong with your thinking and simple acts of social division, your comments are in fact not based on your so called education standards rather its based on class and social divisions. No a good thing.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
I simply pointed out two facts from two separate studies.
Those that further their education (and by this I mean university and beyond, not continuing after junior high school) are statistically less likely believe superstitions such as the Jewish Zombie and other forms of Mr. Magic. And those with degrees, especially in the sciences, have higher incomes than those that decided to exit public schooling when confronted by biology and first year algebra.
They are also more likely to be able to support their position and opinions. This as opposed to those that lack even the ability to use punctuation to break up their stream of consciousness blatherings into coherent forms known ad ‘sentences’.
https://youtu.be/wSGkBWYDmrM?si=R3AzcW52-Vbeq78c
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He Who Breathes
I'm OK with it, if it is only female to female, as that is not prohibited by the bible...
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John Condron
Nor is rape, incest, slavery, smoking, drinking, gambling, dancing, or divorce... so I guess you're good to go!
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He Who Breathes
Rape is condemned in the Old Testament. For example, Deuteronomy 22:25-27 outlines the severe consequences for a man who commits rape.
Incest: The bible prohibits incest in several places. Leviticus 18 and 20 provide lists of forbidden relationships, including those involving close relatives.
The rest, you can look up yourself - I am not a slave to your words... ;)
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Lionheart
Drowning people to death, slavery, and infanticide, seems to be okay though. Weird, right?
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
You seem to forget that the Bible responds to the present cultural problems of the period it was in. Morals in Jesus'time allowed slavery but Paul made it a moral.practice that slaves be treated fairly. And for slaves to be obedient. Etc, etc. And we're committing infanticide now with abortion. So.what's your point.
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Lionheart
Well, Paul seems to have better morals than his God did then. His God said slaves could be beaten, as long as they don’t die in the first day or two.
I don’t agree with abortion, Sir Keith, and I definitely don’t agree with drowning people like that very naughty God of the Bible did. Was that a cultural problem back then? 🤔
Are there any other points you’d like me to explain to you that you don’t understand?
Thank you so much for your reply. 🤗
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John Condron
Yes, "He Who Breathes." Deuteronomy 22:25-27 does seem to condemn rape, saying "“But if the man meets the engaged woman out in the country, and he rapes her, then only the man must die."
But let's put that in context Shall we? What if the rape happened in the city? "…you must take both of them out to the gate of that city and stone them to death—the young woman because she did not cry out in the city, and the man because he has violated his neighbor’s wife. So you must purge the evil from among you. But if the man encounters a betrothed woman in the open country, and he overpowers her and lies with her, only the man who has done this must die. Do nothing to the young woman, because she has committed no sin worthy of death. This case is just like one in which a man attacks his neighbor and murders him.…"
The crime here is not the rape, it is a property violation. The rapist has "violated his neighbor's wife!""
War rape was specifically permitted by Deuteronomy 20:10–14. "As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder [Yahweh] your God gives you from your enemies."
In Numbers 31:13–18, Moses instructs his soldiers to " kill every woman who has slept with a man, but save for yourselves every girl who has never slept with a man."
I could go on, but as you said, " I am not a slave to your words...." and you are apparently not a slave to the words of your bible.
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Thomas P. Davis
Until it happens to one that you love and then you will change your position. That is why we humans need rules, not rules that man have made. With their rules, someone is a winner (usually the one that made the rule), someone else is a loser. That is what made me interested in God's law, it is a WIN WIN for everyone. This is referring to the law that God wrote before sin was ever in this world, Not the laws that were written after because of sin in this world. Just imagine what a war would go like if all the soldiers did their own thing, or an orchestra or a sports team. I remember my son kicking at the soccer ball every chance he could, not to score points but to collect 25 cents. His grandfather told him that he would get 25 cents for every ball that he kicked. His team wasn't too happy that he did his own thing.
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@He Who Breathes
Cherrypicking again.
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He Who Breathes
Please expound upon your interesting comment.
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@He Who Breathes
Your comment: "I'm OK with it, if it is only female to female, as that is not prohibited by the bible..."
... is cherry picking.
1) no bible speaks for all people
2) your personal view suits you - no one else
3) if all religious writings are set aside because those can't pertain to eveyrone - why can't men be equally attracted to women and or men?
What about men attracted to men directly impacts your life?
Do you have a real concern? Or only a personal feeling of ickiness about anything different from what you think is okay?
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You’re cute.
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He Who Breathes
Thank You ! So are you!
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James Mounts
Most men think two women together is cute and sexy, but two men together is disgusting. I often pondered why, now I know.
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Tecla Caryl Loup
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He Who Breathes
Like a pig? or are you still on those drugs???
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"that is not prohibited by the bible..."
Seriously?
Sorry to learn about your 4th grade reading comprehension skills.
This is the product of our public school system, folks. I recommend homeschooling.
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Danny D. Maynard
Well, the Republicans keep defunding public education, so you get what yo pat you for!
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He Who Breathes
Please show me where it is prohibited by the bible.
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Thomas P. Davis
Where which one of the above comments is prohibited ?
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Oh yes it is. Lying with the same sex is prohibited. You overlooked it.
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Dan Anderson
If people are so worried about an 'openly gay advertisement', how about the same disgust for the openly heterosexual commercials as well?
Remember, people, that homosexuality is normal.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Homosexuality is not normal. It is abnormal. Do the research on how the idea of it being abnormal switched to normal. It will always be abnormal because God the Author of Divine Law & Natural Law made it so. You can't impregnate a man or a lesbian a lesbian. My God, use your common sense. The world has went ape on this abnormal scene. Clowns all over.
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Rev. Mike Eggleston
Normal of not, it happens. If you don't like the fact that some people are homesexual, tough! Keep your hatred to yourself and your own little hate group.
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Joe Bennett
If homosexuality is not normal. How do you explain it in animal species other than humans? But, of course, that's merely an observation in nature made by smarter people than I.
Homosexuality may not be your natural state. And when did you decide that you were not, and decided that your heterosexual tendency was natural? Nobody wakes up one morning and decides that they will be hetero or homosexual. It's just like when people of the past deemed being left-handed as not natural.
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Noe Domingo Martinez
The only homos I know in the animal kingdom are the sea slugs. However they are both male and female. When they have SEX, THEY BOTH END UP PREGNANT!!! I don't know of any other homos in the animal kingdom.
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Rev'd Andrew
Try doing some research: google is readily available. Start with Bonobos...maybe you'll try research BEFORE broadcasting your lack of knowledge on the interwebs next time.
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James Hage
First of all homo-is a prefix. Going simply by prefix you are a homo-. As for homosexuality in other species I bet you have never done any research on the matter so here is an article to get you started. As you read remember God does not make mistakes. https://www.nwf.org/Home/Magazines/National-Wildlife/2023/Summer/Conservation/Same-Sex-Behavior-Animals-Science
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Pamela Kay Waters
So you are saying gays are animals? Ok.
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Tecla Caryl Loup
Humans are animals with overwrought brains.
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Marathuzula
Your god so impotent it couldn't skip over that abnormality... Your god could have created them that way... Your god doesn't exist, and is just an adult imaginary friend.
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Rev'd Andrew
If god didn't want homosexuality, why did he put so many pleasure receptors inside the anus?
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Noe Domingo Martinez
The same reason he put receptors at the tip of your fingers.
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Rev'd Andrew
Really? So I'm supposed to put things inside my anus to feel what they are? Interesting thing for you to suggest...
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Noe Domingo Martinez
The same reason he put receptors at the tip of your fingers.
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Cynthia Mandello
The literal Bible condemns MEN laying with MEN; it says nothing about Women.
Further, Jesus didn't condemn anyone, even those that betrayed & killed him. All those "rules" are in the Old Testament where, oddly, slavery is approved as is giving your virgin daughters to drunks banging on your door so they'll quit interrupting your sleep.
If you want to condemn anyone, I'm sure there's a spot open on the front roll of "The Church of Everyone's Damned But Me".
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Thomas P. Davis
Just a FYI Rom 1:26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
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Pamela Kay Waters
He shouldn't gave to. Normal people know right from absurdity. As for my god,,, well thats still up in the air.
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James Richard Munro
For those of you who still think LGBTQ is OK. and say they can't find anything in the Bible about lesbians, or homo`s Check this out. Leviticus 20:13 Corinthians 6:9 Leviticus 18:22 Corinthians 6:10 Romans 1:26 Romans 1:27 Timothy 1:10 Corinthians 6:9 Timothy 1:10 As I have said in previous posts, there in no such thing as a gay Christion. It's an oxymoron Pick one. You can't be both. Hay, I didn't wright the Bible
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James Riggle-Johnson
God didn't write the bible either.
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Pamela Kay Waters
Lets just try to change life. IT CAN'T BE DONE. CAN IT?
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Katelynne Shouse
The Hate Group "Not Even Remotely Close to One Million Moms", which is closer to 10 moms in actuality, can go pound sand.......if anyone or thing should be banned or eliminated it is they and every other Christofascist Nationalist Dominionist!
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Here we go with the Christian hate speech of which you ought to be banned from this sight. But, the people who oversee this won't do a thing. And, I'll be attacked to holding to the other side that homosexuality is abnormal. Right is wrong and wrong is right. God warned us.
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Anisahoni
Why are you here on a site which is not Christian and supports LGBTQ rights? The hate is from people like you who profess to love Jesus, yet you fail to follow his teachings. Perhaps it is people like you who are abnormal.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
PERHAPS???
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Rev. Mike Eggleston
If your god doesn't like it, he/she/it should stop it. He/she/it is meant to be omnipotent after all.
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James Hage
Keith Allen Steele Eash, The Bible claims God warned us on several issues, I wonder if you are as concerned with all the other things you are not suppose to do? All sins are equal in god's eyes which is why he commanded you to not judge lest you be judged. Matthew 7:1-3.
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Rev Big Al
God, with a capital "G" gave us free will. So he is not going to stop how a person behaves regardless if it goes against his teachings or not. I believe homosexuality is wrong. Two men cannot naturally create life/have a baby, two women cannot naturally create life/have a baby. It takes a man and a woman to natural create life/have a baby. This is why I believe homosexuality is wrong.
With that being said I do respect a persons choice to live there life the way they choose. So if someone is homosexual I will not get in there face or try to make them feel uncomfortable, but I will not support them or anything they are associated with.
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Tracy Busby
Procreating is only one aspect of love. There are many ways to express love to one another, emotionally and physically. If you tell me there is only one right way to do it physically, then anything that a heterosexual couple does outside of that ONE way would be a sin. So, all you/us creative couples would be just as wrong, because it's not 'natural.'
Making a baby is one outcome and one reason on this earth to make love. Many heterosexual people make babies and never once make love, because they do not love one another.
I believe God finds greater joy in a gay couple making soulful love to one another, who genuinely love, honor and respect one another, than He/She/It does in a heterosexual couple having mechanical sex, who don't even really know or care for one another.
God is LOVE. We get so wrapped up in using our magnifying glasses to scrutinize what we think God means by what has been translated to us, rather than using our our hearts and souls to use REAL sense.
Parents are worried about their children being influenced. Why? They're afraid that ALL the evil gays are gonna turn their kids gay? Right. Because all the gay kids in the past were able to be indoctrinated into being straight. Right? Mm-hmm.... All those 'normal' commercials and 'normal', 'wholesome' TV shows they grew up with corrupted them into being straight. So, of course the straight ones will easily be corrupted into being gay if they for one second think it might be at all normal. Totally legit. 😣🤦🏼♀️
To give them a little grace, though, I was stuck in that fear at one point, because I was taught that, too. That fear that if you don't verbalize that it's wrong, then you don't stand for Jesus. And then you will burn in hell. And if you don't save others, then they will burn in hell. And good God, if your kids get snatched up into it, they will burn in hell! But that's all man-made fear. God is not fear. God is LOVE.
Life is so much better once you know that. You can stop trying to fix everyone and just freaking love them. Starting with yourself. 💜
Love to all of you! 😍
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Bond Wright
With 8 bilion people on this planet straining the earth's resources--I don't think we need EVERYONE to be procreating all the time. There is more to human life than just procreating, procreating, procreating. Much, much more. Native American peoples gave homosexuals the title of "two-spirit" people and also gave them a high rank as healers, alchemists, wise counsellors, and warriors. recognizing them as especially spiritually and intellectually gifted. Thru the past 35 years I have known many and have seen many possess these the qualities. The American Indian peoples are right. you should open your mind. Good reference is: Another Mother Tongue. Judy Grahn. Good luck.
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Daniel Gray
straining the resources? You do know you can place EVERY human being in the world in North America and the rest of the world would be empty right? so just how is this straining the resources? That would be about 2,000 people per square mile, roughly the same population density as the Channel Islands of Jersey and Guernsey, and less than the roughly 3,000 people per square mile in Bermuda. There is enough space in America for all the people in the world to live comfortably.
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Yes, only a male and female can creat a life, and back when the Bible was first written, it was important to have children to help with family farms and shops. Nowadays, that is not necessary.
The 10 Commandments, the laws that the Bible say were written by God himself, does not mention this at all. In fact there is a lot of positives with the LGBTQ+ community. Since they, for the most part, cannot have children of their own this opens up the potential for loving homes for countless children that do not have that. Perhaps that is God’s plan. -
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Geoffrey C. Olive
KASEash So your comments are not hate speech? Wake up, who are you trying to kid? You need to think very carefully about who is perceived as a “clown” when you make such bigoted statements!
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
The religiously delusional have no shame.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
Eash, you are a perfect example of a comment I made elsewhere in this thread. Individuals with higher levels of education are less likely to be religious. Your comment had misspelled words, incorrect punctuation and grammatical errors. This resulted in your comment being as poorly formed as your opinion.
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Gregory Ingram
If you are going to put your bigoted not supported world views on the topic on display then yes you are rightfully so going to be called out for them. If you struggle so hard with defending your point you should take a debate class.
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Pink Clover
This is not a christian website. "Our fundamental tasks are to promote freedom of religion and to "do that which is right" - core tenets that underscore everything we do. The ULC appeals to a worldwide audience through our online church services and our overarching belief that "we are all children of the same universe."
We have the right to call out hypocrisy and throw out mythbusting when applicable. We have the right to ignore your chosen god(s).
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