Fast food restaurant Chick-fil-A is the latest company to garner religious backlash for adopting progressive policies – in this case the hiring of a VP of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI).
The restaurant chain, a favorite of many people of faith for its unabashed Christian values, is now under fire by those very same individuals over the discovery that the chicken giant has a DEI executive on the payroll.
Some Christians insist that having a company diversity department is incompatible with Christian values.
However, others argue that Chick-fil-A's diversity goals are not only laudable – they directly align with biblical values.
So, which is it? And how did we get here?
"Not The Lord's Chicken"
The controversy began late last month when social media users noticed a page on Chick-fil-A’s website promoting their DEI department.
“We have a problem,” read a May 29 tweet from political commentator Joey Mannarino. “Chick-Fil-A just hired a VP of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion. This is bad. Very bad. I don’t want to have to boycott. Are we going to have to boycott?”
The page he linked to is in many ways your typical corporate DEI page, with a distinctly Christian tint. It reads:
“Chick-fil-A’s Corporate Purpose is ‘To glorify God by being a faithful steward of all that is entrusted to us. To have a positive influence on all who come into contact with Chick-fil-A.' When we combine our unique backgrounds and experiences with a culture of belonging, we can discover new ways to strengthen the quality of care we deliver: to customers, to the communities we serve and to the world.”
Despite this explanation, reactions in some faith circles were swift and critical.
Many Christians shared in the outrage, with one political candidate accusing the company of serving "another god."
And some even documented their boycott of the restaurant by visiting competitors instead, declaring Chick-fil-A "no longer the Lord's chicken":
Is Diversity a Christian Value?
Yet, not all people of faith had the same reaction. Some didn't get their feathers quite so ruffled.
Others argued that their fellow Christians have this all wrong.
Among them was New York Times columnist and devout churchgoer David French, who asserted that DEI values are not antithetical to Christian teachings. In fact, he said, they are worthy goals to aim for:
Defenders of the company also remind people that Chick-fil-A's Christian roots run deep. This is, after all, the corporation that famously sparked a nationwide boycott after its CEO said he opposed same-sex marriage back in 2012.
It has also donated millions of dollars to faith groups that oppose LGBTQ rights groups over the years, only stopping in 2019 amid fierce backlash.
Fairfeather Friends
Regardless of how you feel about Chick-fil-A's new DEI hire, it’s interesting to see just how quickly the tide turned against the chicken chain.
This is, after all, a restaurant that was once the darling restaurant of faith groups across America.
Until now, the controversies Chick-fil-A faced originated largely from more secular, progressive activists who sought to ban the restaurant entirely from airports and thoroughfares over its donations to anti-LGBTQ groups.
Now the call is coming from inside the restaurant, so to speak. And as recent protests of Bud Light and Target have shown, this could have a serious impact on Chick-fil-A’s reputation... and even its bottom line.
What do you think? Is it anti-Christian to embrace the principles of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion, or do such values have biblical merit?
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Donald G Magel
Jesus Christ was one of the first people to demonstrate what it is to be woke. He stood for the poor, the needy, the sick and the disabled and even the so-called normal people of the world. He loved us all as we are all made in God's image. For the fearful among us, you cannot "catch" gay. If you are gay or trans or whatever then God made you what you are. It is not your choice.
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William Leon Barfield jr
I live in New York state now. We don't have any Chick-fil-A near me. When I was in Georgia I never ate there. I am a Burger King guy.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
We all like to think we are special. Our individual consciousness gives each of us the illusion that we are the center of the universe. As we mature we learn the limits of this view.
Unfortunately, many find this difficult to let go. Some go so far as to mentally reduce the entire universe to just and exactly what they think it is, and even working to impose their views on everyone else. This, unfortunately, is all too common, all too typical. This is where such laws and policies as DEI, affirmative action, and equal rights not only make sense, but become necessary.
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Patti Anne Lisenbee
Every single human is diverse from every other one. We all have differences that go beyond skin color, but too many christians don't want that to be true, they want to be all alike - white.
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Richard Lee Cornell
Let the Christians eat some other place and leave us Americans alone. The next time you see a Christian family in Chick go up to daddy and say "Hi Bob. So this is your family. It uis nice that they are a understanding family. When I came out my wife and the kids went to live with her mother. But Bob it was not in your family. Just to say Hello got to go now. Bye" Then leave. The wife will question for ever more if her husband is gay or not?
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Rev Ned
If you’re not “woke”, IMHO you can’t be a “Christian”. I also doubt that St. Peter will let you go through the “Pearly Gates”.
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Man of God
It is not possible for a person who calls him/herself a "true" Christian to adapt words created by 'man' that are used to discribe any of the words of "GOD". THE BIBLE.
Why??? When our GOD speaks, it is always clear and concise. When ever a man/woman uses a word from man(since all men are born into sin) that is meant to describe any of GOD'S teachings. We can be sure that that word is a clue that that person has been influenced by the evil one. Lev 19:2 'Be holy because I, the LORD your GOD,' am holy. If you don't know who the LORD GOD, is - read and study the New Testament - The Gospel.
It is very important today for believers to focus on the Word of GOD. The evil one knows GOD better than we could ever know GOD. The evil one knows the power of words. Believers should never dismiss our GOD's teachings about the spoken word. Remember our GOD spoke and then there was light. That our LORD GOD, said that he will judge us by what we say or come out of our mouths.
....Christian or Woke...Don't fall for this trick of division. A true Christian knows. What is Woke? Where is it in the word of GOD? Only a person with evil intensions tries to introduce words that our GOD does not, did not use to identify his teachings. All that does is create confusion. We, are simple minded sinners and only the LORD GOD gives us the correct teachings, that will lead us out of this confusion.
Dissmiss this argument. It is not worth the effort. It is foolish to augument with a person who is lost and confused.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
You do know that the Bible is all a translation, from multiple languages, right?
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Brien
Lol, you do know that the so called translation cannot be verified right? I mean it was done under duress by "scholars" ordered by the king who had a habit of killing people that did not agree with him. Well, just keep pushing that magic pill. Peace ✌️
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Steven Ferrell
What is disturbing is they are basically forcing companies to have a DEI or are making it impossible for businesses to have lines of credit that all businesses need to operate. This is pretty much mandated from the federal government and its current leaders.
If a company does not a DEI department, their credit score takes a hit.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
This has been law for years, was part of affirmative action and equal rights.
On the one hand, I agree with our modern socially aware culture such laws are becoming less important - but the laws were originally made for a reason.
A big complaint these days is that people are so 'divided'. The truth is we've always had these social divisions, but they were largely invisible, depending on what social strata you occupied. The closer to the bottom you get, the more apparent social divisions become. The people on the top, of course, were VERY comfortable with these divisions, and bitterly resent any attempt to remove these divisions. This is the 'divisiveness' we now find ourselves in. This is the 'culture war'.
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Steven Ferrell
What is disturbing is they are basically forcing companies to have a DEI or are making it impossible for businesses to have lines of credit that all businesses need to operate. This is pretty much mandated from the federal government and its current leaders.
If a company does not a DEI department, their credit score takes a hit.
A DEI should not even be considered when looking at credit score, it should be totally based on business income.
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Veronica Deevers
You can be a Christian OR Woke. But not both. The gospel is there to change the sinner. Not for the sinner to change the gospel to suit the sin.
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Taylor X Zaragoza
If you truly follow Jesus… then being Woke is what he was all about. Christians Protestant all the others are the Nee Saudices and the Pharisees.
Minister Taylor X
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Tyra Jayde Anderson
Whatever happened to "God created all men (and women) equal"? Based on that one of God's teachings, being inclusive is the Christian Value. To go against inclusivity is the Anti-Christian value
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Herbert William Kleinfeld
This boycott brought to you courtesy of the same hypocrites that preach "turn the other cheek"...when it suits their convenience, of course!
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Anne 'Arie
This is pretty ridiculous! If businesses or any sort would just stay out of the political and social hotbed issues, they would be farther ahead. You would think Chick-fil-A and other places would learn from the mistakes already made. If they want business from everyone, they shouldn't make waves either for or against anyone. It's almost as if they want to make problems.
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Eric James Wix
Chick-fil-A is a joke. When they came to lake charles my so was working there and was fired because he wouldn't come in on his day off because he had a church function. I give them no business.
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JaZe
They glorify God by killing chickens? 🤔 Absurd.
The couple who introduced them to me were not religious, they simply liked the food. Ditto. However, in this last year their chicken portions have shrank and the buns disintegrate 👎 so I dont bother eating there anymore even occasionally.
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LJ Schalm
I have worn this bracelet for 26 years...when in doubt, I look at this for an answer: WWJD?
He'd enjoy a nice Chicken Sandwich at Chick Fi La and give thanks to God the father for the blessings of the food and the people who serve it...
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Rev. William
I like chick-fa-la and I will continue to eat their food I don’t see why people have to be so judgmental about company’s coming out in support of these things, I am a Christian have been since I was just a kid and I have not changed what I believe, but the Bible clearly says judge not lest ye be judged, so let’s stop all the nonsense and help each other and not cast stones at one another. It’s not what God would want us to do.
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Mrknowitall
Homosexuality makes up 5% of the entire population of the planet. Why an earth is anybody catering to this group is beyond my wildest imagination. Diversity and inclusion does nothing but divide and promote hate !
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JT of the plains
First, fast food is not healthy. So is selling fast food a Christian value? Is making people sick, obese, and diminishing their overall health a Christian value? Is promoting wasteful spending on junk food a Christian value? Second, why is diversity so terrifying to conservatives? Christianity is not the KKK, and the KKK is NOT Christian. White domination is NOT a Christian value, no matter who much conservatives scream and wail that it is. Third, this whole obsession that conservatives have with putting on the window-dressing veneer of religions is getting tiresome. I wish they would just come out and be honest that they want to be the KKK.
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Jeffrey Alan Mostrando
It does not seem possible to truly be a follower of any religious belief system and not be sympathetic to Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion concepts. The basis for any belief system is to treat others as you would want to be treated. Someone may disagree with the life choices another has made. But, that does not entitle treating another person with any less than the respect you expect to receive.
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Randall Hall
Woke people are blackmailing businesses with this fake CEI score. It's just part of the brainwashing process to normalize their view and sexualize children.
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Merlin
Christians are continuing maintain their racist and bigotry brand. Christians consider any diversity from their position heretical. Fascist type control has been their mantra for centuries.
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John Joseph Martinez
Look at all the people... arguing over where to eat FAST FOOD.
Meanwhile, the corporations all laugh at you, take your rent/bill/medicine money, and do not care what you think.
All of them. AT&T, the gas companies, hospitals, and many other privately owned (but sometimes publically shared) buisnesses who sit back and collect 14% annually in the Carribean banks while you cry and moan over the cheap cuts of food you choose to go and buy instead of buying locally, supporting local buisneses, and preparing it yourself.
The next time you waddle into one of these places with your overweight children, consider which copproate gods you are bowing to first before tossing shiny stones at faceless nameless businesses, who in the end don't really care about what you think.
If God existed on Earth in human form, would He live in the ghetto or the best place in town?
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Shepherd Daniel
This whole WOKE garbage is destroying our country. My child is transgender and ever she agrees that shoving a mental disorder in children’s faces, forcing them to question their true nature is immoral and has to stop. This is a distraction by the Democrats to hide Biden’s criminal charges against him. We are not sheep. The WOKE community is just another domestic terrorist group like BLM and Antifa. Us Christians are armed and are ready to fight in the name of God like before.
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Adv Cherry Kushwaha
Jesus mentioned himself that he was a messanger or got...Bible itself nowhere propagates hatred to any religion or advocates association of politics, education or cultures with sin and piousness to propagate Christianity!!! Understanding the sarcasm beneath, how do you Baptise someone unless you yourself truly are
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
Can you be woke and xtian? It depends upon how you define ‘woke’.
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David Arthur Lewis
The only truly Christian value seems to be hatred. They hate everyone, even each other. For example, look at the Dis-United Methodists. Who Would Jesus Hate?
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Man of God
Do not give up hope David Arthur Lewis. John 13:34 "A new command" I give you: Love one another. As I have loved you, so you must love one another. By this all men will know that you are my disciples, if you love one another."
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Chris
So now the people who demanded that a "religious" baker not be forced to bake a cake for a gay couple are getting butt-hurt because other companies are doing things they don't approve of. Target selling clothing with rainbows and some Preacher Karen goes in and vandalizes the store. Chicken restaurant supports inclusivity and diversity and these people flip their lids. And then they whine about cancel culture? These people are the biggest bunch of crybaby hypocrites I've seen yet. I have absolutely no respect for any of them. I know, they don't care because I'm not a carbon copy of them and they can't handle anyone who's even slightly different.
It would be nice if Christ would come back and straighten out all these people who claim to follow him, but they'd just call him a Socialist Libtard with dark skin, ban him from the country, and soundly denounce him to their echo chambers.
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Daniel Gray
I dont think so. All they did was hire someone to do a no nothing job to shut up people. The CEO and Owner has the final say, not anyone else.
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Brien
I've tasted their chicken and it was tasteless. I prefer good old KFC. Non denominational chicken.... It just tastes better. Also they have the best cole slaw. Chik fil A is a privately owned business and can lose money anyway they see fit. And, why does anyone care about this?
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Patrick Alois deHertogh
I am pleased about all this boycotting going on. Now maybe we will get a idea of how much power we have to promote change. If only we were not so divided. I assuming the most of us suffer the same things. Regardless of any of are sex religious political leanings. Or skin tone. How's your rent? Your job pay security. Is healthcare cost crippling you. Got a savings account? ?? This is just another diversion
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Douglas Robert Spindler
Appears the bottom line and profits are more important at Chick Fil A than religious values.
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Angelic Realms
Humiliation and degrading people for things they never did to people they never harmed is disgusting. I don't go to Chik Fil A and now never will. I get all my chicken needs fulfilled at Popeyes and Church's. Thanks. God bless. You should be asked to be abused and humiliated for any cause. Perverse nonsense. When did in the last hundred years anyone ask a black person to grovel and kiss their feet? Not even communist China the heartless inhuman dictatorship does things like that.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
I've never enjoyed bigotry sandwiches, and I resent being pandered to.
They have a lot to make up for before I'll go there.
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Daniel-David
God’s covenant with Noah repeatedly affirms that it is WITH ALL LIVING THINGS. And it’s so God remembers the EVERLASTING COVENANT. 🌈
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Lionheart
Did you read that claim from a book, Daniel?
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
Sure he did.
Bible: Guidebook for Bronze Age Goat Herders
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Rev. Kev
Seems a lot of folks these days are easily offended and get upset over a whole lot of nothing. Big deal. They have a DEI department. Last time I checked no business can discriminate when hiring employees or serving customers. So wouldn't that office just be doing what they're supposed to be doing, anyway?
Personally, I'm so over this stupid habit of calling things "woke" and boycotting stuff because they do things someone doesn't happen to agree with. Because, I guess, everyone is supposed to walk lockstep to a specific political and theological mindset? No room for freedom or individuality? Can't handle some organization doing something they didn't run by you for approval?
Just scarf down the sodium-laden chicken, go back to shopping at the mall, and relax. Life is too short to sweat the nonsense.
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Pastor Jim
Then get the hell out of the way.
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Rev. Kev
Out of the way of what, exactly?
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AetherAgent
Jesus welcomes everybody, even thieves and adulterers. That doesn't mean he condones theft and adultery. Come as you are, but do so that you may become something greater.
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CB Cuff
"Some Christians insist that having a company diversity department is incompatible with Christian values." The 'short-list' of what is compatible to christian beliefs would be, well, quite short.
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Rev Mark D
The one thing that has not at all crossed into discussion is what Chick-fil-A means by "DEI" and "DEI Vice President." In fact it seems like nobody is interested in even asking them a certainly have an offered to specify in any form whatsoever, and nothing for the job description, and nothing for policies concerning dei and the dei VP. Not a word.
I'm not sure what anybody can make of the developments without knowing these things.
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Cindy L Edgar
Every belief should be allowed to go to Chick-fil-A and that's not just one God and God didn't create that sadly I guess I won't be going to Chick-fil-A anymore because that means that they wouldn't like what I practice or who I am in their restaurants which is very sad considering paganism and polytheism were the first beliefs out there
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Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson
I am a non-Christian conservative (small c deliberate). What you do in the privacy of your intimacy is none of my business. All I care is that the relationship is mutually consensual, age appropriate and causes no harm.
My main concern after that, can we be good neighbors and work together for the good of the community where we do agree.
I read the Chick-Fil-A page as being more in line with being nondiscriminatory.
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Najah P Tamargo
Minister Najah Tamargo USA
Again.....wasting our time on nonsense!!! First - It is a private corporation (kind of like Disneyland/World) and they have the right to do whatever they think is best for their operations. Second - I have only eaten there once and was NOT impressed. Being a single working Mom, it was too pricey for my taste. Third - Every time I have driven, by the line was ridiculous!!!! See #2 - not good enough or cheap enough to waste my time. Fourth - For goodness sakes....it's a "fast food chain"!!! It's not like it's a church, or synagogue or any other house of worship, so why are we even bothering with this conversation???? Fifth - If the "Bible Thumpers" are offended, DO NOT GO THERE!!! Kind of like Drag Shows....If you don't want your children to see it - DO NOT TAKE THEM!! That's on the parents, not the business. Are they saying that they have NEVER eaten at Taco Bell, Arby's, KFC, Checkers, Culver's, Wendy's, Jack in the Box, In and out Burgers, etc.??? If they claim they have not, I call BS and they are lying! Fifth - I say BRAVO Chick-fil-A! A little diversity won't kill you. In fact, you might see your business improve if people of "diversity" know they are welcome.
Anyone reading this will probably think I am "WOKE". Guess what.......I AM!!! Have been all of my life. I've just wondered what has taken so long for the rest of the people to grow up and expand their minds?. As the ULC states "We are all children of the same universe." If we all treated each other with love, kindness. respect and understanding, maybe the world would be in a better place.
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Rob
Amen.
When I don’t like something on television, I don’t watch it. When I don’t like something my children are reading, I explain to them why and not allow them to read it at this time - their time will come. When I don’t like something people say, I don’t hang out with them. And so on.
But I do struggle with hypocritical actions or statements of others. I hope all people will be consistent in the future.
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Ryan
This right here! I couldn't have said it better myself. How petty we as a society have become! You don't like it? Don't eat there! It's plain and simple. God said love everyone! Even if you don't agree with their lifestyles, there's a reason LGBTlmnopqrst whatever letters they added now, are here. I believe God wanted to teach us to appreciate everyone's differences. And most people are failing miserably at that! It's not about being "woke", it's about being a caring human. I don't have any issues with anyone, unless they are hurting other people. It's NOT anyone's business and Chick should've just advertised their food, and not their beliefs! Next will be Hobby Lobby, should they ever decide, to open on Sundays due to loss in business, then they're not serving God??? Everyone serves in their own way. I for one choose to RESPECT ALL LIFE. Those are the teachings I was raised with. It's not just climate control destroying this planet, but other people's small, and closed minded opinions. I still refuse to ever eat at Chick's though bc they did a 360, all due to money and not for the right reasons. Too much hatred goes on in this world! Let's try and put an end to it, instead of becoming part of the problem. I guess the chicken is satanic now bc there's a rainbow in their signage??? Ridiculousness really. Money is and has anyways been the root of all evil. People are acting like they're going to starve to death, all bc there's a rainbow on a chicken sign lol. Go eat elsewhere then and learn what it means to love thy neighbor.
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Joy
Same here with all three of you. Some (a lot of?) "Christians" are totally missing the love part of their job in this world.
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Colleen McAllister
I don't like their chicken, nor their politics. I follow the Bible: There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus.
—Galatians 3:28
Diversity and inclusion is the Christian thing to do.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Your Christ is Christian. Bless you!
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skye riversong
The critics have shown their hand: their belief is not in the gospel but in a white nationalist "christian" political and economic organization which espouses white male "christian" supremacy, and all others should accept their marginalized position. They are trying to hold onto their homogeneous social and economic tribal hegemony, because they know they are on the ropes; in another two generations they'll have died out. They cannot bear that thought.
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Joy
Could not have said it better myself.
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Robert Gagnon
Their chicken ain't that great, not at all a part of my regular diet. Any business dealing with the public should just keep out of the social or political arena. Stay neutral and garner as many customers as possible to feed your bottom line. Catering to any one group is losing customers in another. It's just good business sense to happily serve any customer with interest in your product. Don't subject them to flags, or other triggers that may discourage their patronage.
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Cheryl Pettijohn
I love the Southwest Chicken Salad. And Waffle Fries. But my patronage (or yours) has little impact. If people decide to boycott there will be slightly shorter line to get lunch or dinner. They will always be crowded, will always give good service, will do well.
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Rev. Dennis
I disagree but like that you gave your opinion.
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Stephen P Singleton
THIS makes sense. Keep Business, Schools and civic institutions Religion Neutral. That way, everyone can worship and believe however and whatever they want.
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Stephen P Singleton
THIS makes sense. Keep Business, Schools and civic institutions Religion Neutral. That way, everyone can worship and believe however and whatever they want.
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Julie Rottinghaus
🤣😂🤣😂😂😂🤣🤣 Come on man! I've never been to a Chick-Fil-A. I deliver from there all the time. People LOVE the place! I respect ANY business who serves ALL people equally. 🏳️🌈✌️
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Pamela Kay Waters
Why does religion have to try and run every person's daily life. If it wasn't for religion and politics this country might be a better place. Wait this world might be a greater place.
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Rev. Dennis
Didn't someone write a song about this?
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Absolutely agree.
Look at the abortion issue. Religious conservatives want to run women's lives and as a bonus imagine they're heroes for doing it.
Something REALLY wrong with that.
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Billy Dalton
I absolutely agree with you. The Nazi religious right needs to keep its nose out of womens vagina's and worry about their own short comings, problems and sins. No one has the right to tell you what you can do with your body.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Forced pregnancy is a war crime according to the Geneva conventions.
Supporting the anti-abortion movement requires embracing the mindless absurdity that a brainless cell is a "Person", and to this brainless cell is transferred all the rights and privileges of personhood that formerly belonged to the real actual conscious woman at the moment of conception, who is then reduced to the status of incubator.
No brain = no person. This is the undeniable biological scientific FACT that anti-abortionists dance and contort to deny, but no matter how they hope and wish and pray and fantasize is NEVER going away. It's textbook magical thinking.
99% of abortions are done before 21 weeks, but anti-abortionists are constantly acting like every abortion happens minutes before labor begins. That is an outright LIE, designed to evoke a visceral sympathetic reaction, just like the outright lie that a brainless lump of cells should be granted bodily autonomy by stealing it from the real actual aware conscious BORN woman. Anti-abortionists promote this LIE because they know the truth is inadequate to promote their cause. A fetus doesn't even get close to the sophistication necessary for awareness until the third trimester, but nobody has an unnecessary abortion in the third trimester anyway, so that isn't what this is about.
The entire anti-abortion movement is based on lies. It is just another wing of the conservative busybody Gestapo seeking to run people's lives and imagine they're heroes for doing it - but anybody with any intelligence sees right through their cruel self-serving delusions.
This is what makes the anti-abortion movement brainless, criminal, and outright sociopathic.
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Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
There are “religionists” and “non-religionists” — just as they’re “followers” and “leaders.”
Religionists are incapable of figuring out things for themselves; so they need leaders to tell them what to think, believe, do, not do, or anything else having to do with being alive.
Religions are not only the opiates of the people, they have divided people so “they knoweth not what they doith.”
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Susan Colmenares
I like their chicken. God does not endorse chicken or any other product. Diversity, equity, and inclusion are indeed endorsed by Jesus—if not by “christians.”
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Lionheart
How do you know what your god endorses, we don’t even know if your particular god is real? 🤷🏼
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Matthew Mastrogiovanni
Lionheart, I don't know if you're a troll, or a bot programmed to be a troll. This is a religious/spiritual group. There are plenty of other places for atheists to hang out at.
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Lionheart
There are many atheist/secular Ministers here, Matthew. I merely point out the obvious to those that have been indoctrinated to believe their god is the real one. Do you have a favorite that you like to think is real?
Thanks for your comment.
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Cheryl Pettijohn
The god you believe in is God, the god I believe in is God. The god Joe (or Jayne) over there believes in is God. Demanding that someone prove they believe in the same God as you, or doesn't, is nonsense. If you believe in one God, then all gods are they, though perhaps different aspects. If you believe in many gods, then you might need to name them if you want to be specific.
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Lionheart
I actually don’t have any reason to believe in any deity, fairy, elf, etc., until there is sufficient demonstrable evidence to believe otherwise. Thank you for your comment, Cheryl.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
@M&M This site is composed of those, like Lionheart et al, that thumb their noses at the monopoly churches had on conducting marriages (and therefore some control over the proceedings) and the Plastic Badged Pastors that want that extra elevation the badge provides.
The site is farcical.
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Brien
I call Lionheart a friend. Not troll, not bot. This site is for ALL not just a few make believe zealots that think theirs is the only opion that counts. Please refer back to the name, Universal Life Church. We are a congregation of all beliefs and we welcome everyone. You need to check yourself.
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Shirley Jean Davis
I wholeheartedly agree.
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Taylor X Zaragoza
Then why are you even here in the first place?
Taylor X
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Pastor Jim
I would agree, except that this woke culture's brand of "diversity, equity, and inclusion" are based on false narratives and lack the support of truth and science. I vehemently support boycotting Chic-fil-A.
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Matthew Mastrogiovanni
10 SYMPTOMS OF THE WOKE MIND 1. You read books and don't burn them. 2. You embrace science. 3. You are willing to change your mind when new informatíon becomes available. 4. You understand that most issues are not black and white. 5. You believe in true equality for all people. 6. You like to share. 7. You embrace cooperation. 8. You respect others' rights. 9. You believe culture and the arts have value. 10. You care for the planet and all of its life.
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Pastor Jim
Absolutely!... on every count. No matter, Chick-fil-A has demonstrated it's intentions signaling that it has adopted values of a type that I do not support and will do all that is within my power to crush it.
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Joy
I don't think God put you here to crush ideas or people who think and believe differently than you. Last time I checked he said to love your neighbor as yourself. I'm pretty sure it's in the The Good Book you claim to cherish.
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Pastor Jim
Lol. Nor did HE put you here to criticize me. I do love my neighbor, until he tries to impede my pursuit of happiness. I just don't do business with those that represent divisive and destructive values and practices.
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Brien
Pastor, you may believe as you wish. You do not have to spend your time or money anywhere, nobody is forcing you my question is why are you trying to force your beliefs on me? What right do you have to threaten anyone? It seems to me that is exactly what your mythical being does. Why is that? Where does your hate come from? I will admit that mine comes from small minded zealots.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Someone needs to tell Chick-Fil-A that.
https://www.aclu.org/legislative-attacks-on-lgbtq-rights
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ServantOfJudgement
@Maththew
Your woke checklist forgot this one:
If you don't like what Lionheart has to say, ask him to leave the forum, because you're tolerant.
You wokeoids are a little ways down your rabbit hole, I don't think I'm able to reach you but I'll try.
Here goes: Count yourself amongst the world's most skilled at self delusion and ego manufacturing.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Tolerating intolerance doesn't mean a person is tolerant, it means a person is ignorant.
That makes perfect sense to the genuinely moral.
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ServantOfJudgement
Woke is intolerant. In this world, you go woke or you go broke. That truth has been established globally and on this site. Very very intolerant. Very very very intolerant, which you say is being moral. So when Christians tolerate the left's intolerance they're being ignorant. Got it.
Wait! Are you saying that if Christians were truly a moral people they would not tolerate the intolerance of the woke? So you're saying I should not tolerate the woke? I don't think you're giving very good advice.
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Bernie James Rocheleau
Your hypocrisy is as astounding. You are accusing the "woke left" (whatever that is) of being intolerant and likely asking someone to leave this forum yet that is exactly what the the "ignorant christians" are doing with Chick-fil-a. Read the words, Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. If that is not tolerance and acceptance, I don't know what is. I am stunned by this discussion! Apparently, according to Charlie Kirk, this christian brand of intolerance is justified by Galatians 3:28. If that quote is accurate than true christians are non-binary! Maybe ask Jesus what he thought of diverse people like gentiles, lepers and whores when he sat down and ate with them.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
@Servy - Please give an example of 'Woke intolerance'.
Baseless blanket statements don't move the discussion forward - but then 'forward' isn't exactly what conservatives are known for.
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Michael Hunt
Conservatives like you have used the term "woke" for so many different things that it's basically just a catch-all for things conservatives don't like. African American history? Woke. Equal rights for the LGBTQ community? Woke. Taxing billionaires their fair share and using those taxes for social programs? Woke.
Tell me, Servant, what is the definition of "woke" exactly?
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Rev. Dennis
Do you know what the DEI department is promoting? There are many facets to diversity, equity and inclusion. You are already linking Chick-Fil-A to the "woke culture" when that may not be the case.
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Pastor Jim
You assume that I'm not informed.
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Michael Hunt
I'm not assuming, I know based upon presented evidence that you're uninformed, or, at best, misinformed about DEI initiatives.
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James Riggle-Johnson
Chick-fil-A has bad this position for years and you've been supporting them all a long. Why do you think it's bad today? What happened between last year or the year before, or before that? Nothing has changed in the company. They haven't come out with any new policy. The real mind virus is thinking tollerance is forcing you to accept EVERYTHING and it's not.
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Pastor Jim
>James C Riggle You really should view the latest video that Chick-fil-A's CEO posted about the change in their corporate vision and values.
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Once again, far right activists are trying to divide this country from any common sense. The Good Samaritan Law is a direct example of how DEI can be used for Christian Values. It is stated clearly that the position is being used for all, just like it was used before, when the inch wasn't a mile. I am a gay man and the rainbow flag has the meaning of all are welcomed. Now they have the Progressive PRIDE Flag, which I don't endorse. Now, I never enjoyed Chick-Fil-A even before all of the controversy, mainly because I don't like fried foods but I applaud their efforts. If they wish to be seen as an anti-GayBCs restaurant, then so be it. Some people wish to hide their hate, while others choose to keep it hidden, at least with those that express their hate, that group knows where to avoid. This is America and unlike many other countries, we have PLENTY of choices of where to spend our money. Rather than spending time hating or despising, we should be enforcing one of the greatest Fruits of The Spirit: Love.