What is the biggest threat to children today? Some might say climate change, or school shootings, or wealth inequality.
But one Texas mother says forget all that; the greatest threat to children today is a new movie on Disney Plus, which will corrupt the very soul of your child.
Her plea is now going viral – and sparking some heated debates over whether witchcraft in cinema is a danger to children.
Hocus Pocus 2: Demonic Portal?
“With the release of Hocus Pocus 2 coming up I would be wrong not to sound the alarm and warn you to protect your children,” wrote Troy, Texas mother Jamie Gooch on Facebook. “It seems silly, right, that you would need to consider what is coming through your tv screen. It seems innocent. Until it’s not.”
The story began spreading after a local news affiliate interviewed Gooch in her home.
A sequel to the hit 1993 movie, Hocus Pocus 2 follows the continuing adventures of a trio of resurrected witches wreaking child-friendly havoc across Salem, Massachusetts.
But these are much more than silly movies, Gooch argues. She says they’re nothing less than a tool of Satan.
“Please hear me when I tell you the truth that the Witches and Warlocks in the satanic church abuse and sacrifice children in their “spiritual rituals” to gain more power in the underworld,” she wrote.
Per Gooch, movies like Hocus Pocus 2 are sinister plots to indoctrinate children and normalize Satanism in society. The demonic influence simply radiates out of the television. Just by putting the film on, you put yourself and your children at risk.
“So before you hit play on the night of the premier of this movie please ask yourself if not only your mind but your children’s minds are strong enough to ward off the hypnotization and bewitching trance that will be coming through the screen to aid in the desensitization of the coming evil in this world. Don’t fall victim to the schemes of hell.”
Satanism Concerns on the Rise
It seems inevitable that Hocus Pocus 2 would end up in the crosshairs. Many have argued that the Satanic Panic is making a resurgence within the last few years, citing how everything from radio stations to new shoes to a one-year-old’s birthday party has drawn accusations of being demonic.
The Satanism worries are the same, we’ve simply traded out the old-school scapegoats of the 1980s like Dungeons & Dragons and horror movies for… well, perhaps nothing’s safe from accusations of Satanism now.
This revival of concerns around anything remotely Satanic has (maybe uncoincidentally?) paralleled a massive growth in the popularity of paganism and witchcraft over the past 20 years.
The meteoric rise in witchcraft has been dubbed a ‘witch Renaissance’ as more and more young people turn to alternative faiths, feeling that the traditional Abrahamic faiths have failed them or are not relevant to their lives.
Is Halloween Dangerous?
Meanwhile, parents like Jamie Gooch insist that we're playing a dangerous game by exposing children to supernatural themes – whether on the screen at the movie theater, or on the streets during holidays like Halloween.
While some mocked her concerns as overblown and paranoid, other parents have voiced their support for being cautious about what children are watching.
With spooky season now fully underway, these debates clearly aren't going away anytime soon.
What do you think? Is this controversy the result of a parental overreaction, or is there actually something more sinister going on here?
130 comments
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David M., Knight
Whether "Woke" parents or parents paraoid about "satanisms" this silliness (IMHO) is rooted in ignorance and fanaticism.
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Pastor George Day
David M., Knight
IMHO??
Your well outspoken opinion doesn't sound so humble to me!
Happy New Year!
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Pamela Kay Waters
Cancle Halloween? The things that are on the news is a lot more harmful to kids that for just 1 night can be someone else.
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Pastor George Day
Pamela Kay Waters,
Probably Meredith Kercher back in 2007 in Perugia thought the same way.
Did you see what happened to her on Halloween?
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Keith
I personally think this parent is overreacting, to much ado about nothing. Parents have the right to decide what their children watch on tv and all TVs today have a setting that’s called “Parental Control “, use it and stop complaining. I'd like to ask this parent a question about “Hocus Pocus 2”. How do you know what the message of the movie is conveying, unless you have seen the movie, have you??? In today's society, people take everything to the extreme. I grew up in the ’70s when people used common sense, the kids were taught the difference between right and wrong and we were kind, courteous, respectful, and had manners. Children today are too sheltered, spoiled, and not taught to be kind and respectful and say thank you, you're welcome, yes Mam, no mam and yes Sir, and no sir. We did chores and got an allowance for doing these chores. Yes, parents, we're protective of their children and didn't smother them. These things taught us about society, we learned about everyday things in life, by observing and exploring things that weren't breaking the law. Today's parents need to teach and protect their children but not isolate them from the world. If they do that, their child will not have any life-learned experiences, skills, or social interactions needed to live in this ever-changing world. Let your kids be kids with parental supervision. I saw “Hocus Pocus 2,” I thought it was entertaining and funny. Movies have suggested ratings to help you determine if your child should be allowed to see the movie. When watching movies with your kids make sure to explain the movie to them and let them know that this is acting and is not real and you can always tell them it's supposed to be funny in a satirical manner. Instead of setting them up to have a preconceived notion that it’s evil. Before I end my comments I want to say some people just want to complain about everything. The way I see it, if you don’t like things then don’t participate. Other, May like it. I think people that do such things are just attention getters, want to be seen on tv, see their followers and likes increase on social media, and get their 5 minutes of fame. Get over it and live YOUR life don’t push your life on others, let them live theirs lives as long as they aren’t breaking the law. We need more love ❤️ in this world and we need to be able to make our own choices. So be kind, understanding, and considerate of others, don’t make it all about you.
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Pastor George Day
Keith,
I recall you being Catholic, right?
I commend the Catholic Church for a very well-organised system for exorcisms However, ordinary Catholics do not take evil seriously enough.
Witchcraft is very real. It's wrong to tell our kids it isn't And why expose them to curiosity?
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Virginia Joiner
They aren't even after children or their souls in this movie like they were the first one. This movie is much more Disney than the first and features a good little witch teaching them the error of their ways. The end is even mushy.
Now to address the slander against my brothers and sisters. I am a Witch. Everything she said about us is untrue. We don't worship Satan. Most of us are not Christian and therefore do not believe in his existence. We don't sacrifice or eat children. We aren't evil. Oh, by the way, male Witches are called Witches. Warlocks are the betrayers of Witches. Those who befriended the wealthy then turned them in as Witches to be rewarded with their lands and titles are also Warlocks.
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Pastor George Day
Virginia Joiner,
I pray Yeshua will make himself found by you on your spiritual journey.
To answer a few of your points:
You say: We don't worship Satan.
Yes, you do. You worship the forces of nature and the gods of the air. Choose to call them what you like... We Christians know whom we worship. You witches do not. That is what I find unfortunate, and I say it with respect. You are sincere, yet misled.
You say: Most of us are not Christian and therefore do not believe in his existence.
Withes, by the very definition, cannot be Christians. We rely on revelation, You have a vague knowledge of what is perceived. That is dangerous.
You say: We don't sacrifice or eat children. We aren't evil.
Abortion is murder. Science tells us the foetus is alive. If you look back at history, human sacrifices have always been, to some degree, part of witchcraft. There are now excavations that prove that.
I wish you blessings in the new year :-)
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Christine Lattimer
Listen, Nothing in this world has power over you unless YOU GIVE IT POWER! Our WORDS are powerful! What you say will come to pass! So, fun shows like Hocus Pocus, any holloween movies have no actual power. If however, you Speak negatively or demonic words into YOUR LIFE you will get what you ask for!
It may not come right away, but it will come. This is why it's so important for eveyone to watch what you say to people. I can not express this enough! Please , Please WATCH YOUR WORDS! It even tells us this in the bible. Don't believe me look for yourself, always read your own bible. I can tell you from experiences. Words can physically hurt people! Long story short, Out loud I wished someone to die, invisioned how! It was happeneing as I spoke (unknown to me), After, calming down a bit I took it back and Immediately said No, I dont wish anyone dead! I am glad I did that! When I came down 20 min later, I was told what just happened the last 20 min. I almost passed out! Never again did I allow my anger to get so terrible that I spoke something so horrible out of my mouth! That was one of many times that something happened after speaking it out loud but the last time I allowed that. Now I watch everything I say! No longer allow my anger to dictate my words. I never say anything in the heated moment that I will regret or allow to hurt someone, whether it is phyical, emotional or mental.
Here are 25 known verses in the bible warning you about what you SPEAK out of your MOUTH!
Proverbs 11:9, 15:4, 16:24, 17:18, 18:21, 18:4, 12:18, 21:23, 25:18. Luke 6:43-45 James 1:26, 3:5. Titus 3:2 Psalm 34:13, 119:105. Ephesians 4:19. Matthew 4:4, 12:36, 15:35-37, 24:35. 1 Corinthians 1:18. 2 Corinthians 5:10. John 15:3. Colossians 4:6. Romans 14:12.
Please take this seriously! You are being dupped into what is false demonic verses what is actually demonic. IT IS NOT WHAT YOU SEE BUT WHAT YOU SPEAK!
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Pastor George Day
Christine Lattimer,
Thank you for taking the time to put these thoughts and scripture passages in order.
God bless you :-)
Happy new yea!
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Pastor George Day
“I’m here to meet with the Man with fire in His eyes.”
There is an invitation for more, and the way in which we receive it is through confronting our familiarity with the glorious presence of this Man. Why are we doing what we’re doing? What will an increase of fear of the Lord do in this hour? To the degree that we will allow Him to consume us is to the degree that we will see His glory.
In the same way that God authored divine order from chaos in Genesis, He longs to rest on the order of His people and, ultimately, of His house. The glory of the Lord, God Himself, will rest upon the divine order of the Lord. The response to this greater glory is deep reverence, holy fear of the Lord, and His ways to rightly judge disorder.
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Jeffery A. Lentych-Hack
I'm seeing hate and vitrail from BOTH sides of this argument... One poster called Christian moms "dopes", another calling all content that even remotely strays from the Christian path "satanic" and thus evil. Both sides are in the wrong here. What we should attempt to do, whether we are on the side of Christianity, or other Abrahamic religious beliefs, or that of the pagan variety, is to lead others to the Light through our actions and words. Name calling, and finger pointing leads to division... period. When it all shakes out, as parents we are tasked with raising our children in a strong, moral, and intelligent manner. This mother has a concern, that's her right. You have the right to just keep scrolling, and leave the name calling for those who don't know any better.
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Alun Lloyd Palmer
It's just a funny light-hearted film. I intend to watch it if I get the chance.
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Robert Charles Lunt
Just a story from the distant past. It was very late and a freind and I were watching Ghoulies, I think. There are summoning rituals performed. We both remarked that the ceremonies they were doing on screen were spot on. It was a full moon and some things did appear it was fascinating. Is Hocus Pocus Deux going to do the same thing? Thats cute. So She's partially right.
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Peggy Ann Warner
I think this lady has problems and it doesn’t end with proclaiming the movie is evil. I believe if you look for evil often enough you will find it and it’s usually inside you.
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Pastor George Day
Peggy Ann Warner, or maybe around us... like Ukraine, for instance :-)
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Rev Ned
Well…Blessed Be!!!
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Sally Jeanne Altobello
Children's greatest influence is from their parents. It is always advised that parents talk to their children about any movie they see or, for that matter, book they read. Parents need to become involved! In college, preparing to become a primary teacher, I took a class on the benefits of fairy tales and movies such as this. Children can learn tolerance, self-sufficiency, kindness, and, with the help of parents, they can recognize silly from serious through these stories. If we continually shelter our children from true evil, how will they recognize when they are met with it? It is our responsibility to teach our children how to cope with the ugly in our world. If we want to truly know happiness, we must understand how sadness really feels. If we want to know success, we have to know failure. Life is a continuum. You have to know one end of that continuum to understand and know the other end. We also need to give our kids, who have learned our tolerance, kindness, love, etc., the leeway to learn and to have their own independence. That's how they grow intellectually.
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Leslie Bomar
I have to say that I find all of this amusing. In a time where we have children being raised with absent parents, being gunned down in schools, where drugs are accessible and rampant, where pedophiles are misusing our children, child marriages and arranged marriages are still permitted and/or encouraged. Folks are worried about a harmless movie, that at worst teaches children acceptance, teamwork, problem solving and overall has a positive message for any that watch it? Really?
Having recently watched the movie, I have to agree, there are some messages in there... Let's see, there is a father that is obsessed with material possessions and a bit of gluttony, who is poked fun at. There is the message that there is strength in numbers. Oh yes, the message about power for power sake has very bad outcomes. Messages about how clueless comments can have unintentional consequence and hurt those around you. Let's see, what else... There is a not so subtle message about knowing who your friends truly are. Oh yeah, and that the whole problem was created by misunderstanding of a situation to begin with.
Truly these are deep and dark messages to be sending to children. Sigh. I even saw some comments about Brother's Grimm in some of the responses... Cautionary tales from another time, another social conscience.
Look here, we have some real problems in the world, very real and deadly. People should focus on those and look for solutions and not attempting to generate made up problems that don't exist. Disney may not always have the best messages in their movies, but this one is way down on the list. This one, despite the setting and characters, has some very real world, positive messages that more of us could pay attention to.
But at the end of the day, it is just a movie. Entertainment, maybe not great entertainment, but harmless until people read into it the wrong things. But that is the fault of the viewer more than any nefarious intent on the part of the producers.
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Pastor George Day
Where are arranged marriages allowed and/or encouraged? Certainly not in the UK or USA.
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Theresa Gull
Perhaps if we teach our children more about inclusion, kindness and compassion…this would surely teach them to be better adults.
It begins at home. Don’t blame a movie for entertainment purposes. Teach your children how to mind their manners, respect adults and authority.
So let me guess - we are gonna start blaming rock music again?? Lol - some want to place the blame anywhere instead of looking inside their homes to see where the problems are.
I have a suggestion. - mind YOUR business, mind YOUR family. Keep your house in order and stop placing blame where there is none.
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Rev. B
" if we teach our children more about inclusion, kindness and compassion…"
What bothers me is that this is what religion is supposed to be. But more and more I see people who claim to be religious judging, excluding, harassing, and most of all... controlling.
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Pastor George Day
Theresa Gull, a parent has the right to choose how to raise their children. And that ought to be respected.
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Jennifer Cash McGeoghegan
I am a practicing pagan and witch. First off, traditional European witches were more likely to be Christian than pagan. Wise women and fairy doctors have a long tradition in the folklore of different cultures around the world. Not all pagans are witches and not all witches are pagan. I realize it's a difficult concept to understand but they are mutually exclusive. The idea that a Disney production could be a gateway to "Satanism" is ridiculous and a publicity grab. Satanists and occultists have been very active in opposition to the far right in Texas. This is likely another notch in the political situation in Texas. The TST has sued the Texas government over their abortion laws and have raised thousands to fight for women's reproductive rights. The mud slinging between the factions has been disgraceful on both sides. Satanism is not an evil ideology in the slightest. It is essentially the promotion of ego as an example of non conformity. Most modern Satanist are ideologically aligned with the values of personal freedoms and access to knowledge and resources. They are obviously not cartoon witches casting spells through your TV...
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Pastor George Day
Jennifer Cash McGeoghegan, your comment is misguided. First, there is no such thing as 'Christian witches.' The two just do not go together. It is like plowing your own grave, if you know what I mean... they used to be burned at the stake! Second, Satanism, by definition, is the worship of Satan as opposed to the Judeo-Christian God or Allah, whichever form they choose to adopt to make it presentable to the public. You can just choose to start using your brain :-)!
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Pamela Kay Waters
You have got to be kidding. Wicca is a religion and this is just a Disney show for entertainment. If you think this is an evil movie then..... DONT WATCH IT.
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Rev. B
Sorry Pamela, but that is not how organized religion works. If they don't like it then they feel no one should be able to see it. Just remember, it's always about control.
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Pastor George Day
Rev. B, it's not. It's about the common good.
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Rev. B
Sorry for the removed post. I replied, then realized it was nowhere near as funny as what Georgie wrote.
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Pastor George Day
Rev. B
Next round...
Happy New Year :-) !!
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Rev. B
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John Komorowski
There is stupidity. There is ignorance. There is just plain dumb. This woman personifies all three.
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Rev. Rory
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Barry T Gabbard
yes--it promotes satanic crafts. just the thoughts of witchcraft and being like a witch is a sin--hence why hollywood does it. did you know hollywood (a type of wood) is used commonly by witches for wands. the idea is to put evil satanic thoughts and practices into the heads of children, to lure them away from God. why do you not think there is not one Christian cartoon? this also works for video games, like grand theft auto, where kids pick up prostitutes and murder. it's designed to spoil them (mentally) and let them let themselves be open to demons.
don't be a dupe. read your bible and except Jesus Christ as your lord and Savior and repent of your sins if you want eternal life.
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Colleen McAllister
Barry T Gabbard there are plenty of Christian and Bible based cartoons and movies out there. Quit looking for evil in every place, it only stirs up people's fears. You are doing the Devils work for him.
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Pastor George Day
Colleen McAllister, any of those in Disney? That is what Barry pointed to. Please, do not derail on a different tangent.
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Colleen McAllister
Pastor George Day where does Barry T Gabbard specify Disney? I am not derailing anything. Have you read the other posts?
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Pastor George Day
Colleen McAllister,
I have. Have you?
Happy New Year :-)
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Pastor George Day
Colleen McAllister,
I have. Have you?
Happy New Year :-)
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Pastor George Day
Barry T Gabbard, a good example is the Pokémon (poke the demon).
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Kathryn Darcy Smith
The perpetual ignorance of "christians" is mindblowing. No hope for the human race.
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Rev. B
Kathryn, every generation has been opening their eyes and leaving organized religion in droves. So there is a little hope.
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Pastor George Day
Rev. B, not sure we live on the same hemisphere of history.... Your claim has been bouncing forth and from for two millennia, ever since the Roman persecutions! We are still here in millions!
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Rev. B
And still dwindling fast. In that millions are you including all of the groups that splintered off of the Catholic church and founded their own "religions"? How about the ones that splintered off of that? You people can't even decide what your "unchanging word" says.
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Pastor George Day
Rev. B,
To begin with, the first who ever was in the picture were we Messianic Jews. All early Christians were Jewish. With Constantine we a first split between Gentle Christians and Messianic Jews. The Orthodox was the state church with five capitals: Rome, Antioch, Constantinople, Alexandria, and Jerusalem. Then the Copts and Nestorians split after the Arians (modern-day Jehovah's Witnesses). Then you had the Catholics and the Protestant Reformation after the Sedevacantist schism.
So, you need to get your order right further.
Secondly, they are not 'religious' strictly speaking but traditions and denominations. Yes, we have disagreements, but the essentials have been established at the early ecumenical councils.
I hope this helps.
Happy New Year :-)
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Lynda Susan Matthews
I worry that this mother has nothing better to do than put silly thoughts into young minds it is a fun movie just like snow white and the nasty step mother trying to kill her, does that make children grow up to be murderers? no let children grow up happy they will always find there own way in life.
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Pastor George Day
Yes, Lynda Susan Matthews. But as children they need direction.
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Rev. B
Yes they do. But then these wacky xtians get ahold of them and teach them that there is a magical man in the sky that grants wishes.
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Pastor George Day
Rev. B,
Not sure which is best: to encourage them to celebrate witchcraft with Halloween or tell them about Santa!
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Brien
Hey, just a thought here, do you suppose that some people are afraid that there are better works of fiction that are more entertaining than the mythical hocus pocus they have been brainwashing people with for hundreds of years? 🤔
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Diana Lee Tyree
Of course it will unless you cover your children in prayer and the blood of the lamb. The prince of the air is on his job! Question are we on our watch?! The thief can't steal your goods if you are being watchful and prayerful.
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Lionheart
First if all, Diana, no one has ever proved the efficacy of what you call prayer. If that were true, everyone, including children dying of cancer, would be healed by now. As for covering children in the blood 🩸of a lamb 🐑……..am I the only one that finds this comment kind of horrific? 🤷🏼
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Rev. B
And here I thought she was trying to be horrific. Eew.
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Lionheart
I think if she had been Abraham, Rev B, she’d have killed Isaac. She’s into the blood and gore type thing. 🤭
Please excuse our humour 🇬🇧, Diana. 🤗
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Pastor George Day
Here is where tolerance is lacking. No wonder that parent was concerned. Christianity and Christians are constantly attacked... not to the same extent as other religions. It makes me wonder.
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Lionheart
They are not attacked any where near as much as Christian’s once attacked, murdered, and tortured heathens at one time, George. 🤗
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Pastor George Day
Lionheart,
How about Mother Theresa and Martin Luther King?
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
Google her name; she appears to be a real person. She and her husband have a farm and website and they sell products from their farm. My opinion...farm is suffering and they need to become more visible and what better way than to gain national attention for a silly notion. It has nothing to do with the movie but rather the person betting that it will put her fellow crstans up in arms, some will google her and word will spread and their farm will succeed and blossom and soon after the whole satanic panic will fade away.
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Christine Ann Held
And there you have it! That makes a whole lot of sense. I was willing to just write her off as another Bible thumping loon who massages the word to fit her needs, but the almighty dollar is an equally plausible explanation and most likely the correct one.
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Matthew Mastrogiovanni
She's a cotton headed ninnymuggins!
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Alexander Arends
As a child I used to read an illustrated story of Hansel and Gretel. The story features child abandonment, attempted cannibalism, enslavement, murder and of course, an evil witch.* I am sure you will find parents who object to this story and if they had their way the Grimms Brothers' story would be banned from all libraries. I believe there are good parents who object to stories and movies about witches. That should not stop you or your children and grand children from enjoying them and expand their imagination.
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Chaplain Shawn
What is the biggest threat to children today?
What do you think? Is this controversy the result of a parental overreaction, or is there actually something more sinister going on here?
Question 1 should most always be answered with addiction to alcohol and drugs. It was said by some that, "a mind is a terrible thing to waste." There is full agreement with that statement because who wants to watch a person flush their life or overdose?
Question 2 is who cares what I think my worldview is not supported or encouraged on this platform. Everyone can have an opinion and we know what opinions are like. The same holds with joke around the word assume. The world loves to troll and money makes the world go round. People will do anything to promote their film. Stir up the pot and get media attention or good or bad publicity...in the end money / profit is the bottom line. Did Hocus Pocus 2 make enough money? That will be the main question. Whether one chooses to believe in God or not; evil most definitely exists in the world. As long as human cockroaches exist on the planet, humans can look forward to other humans killing pregnant women, killing men, killing children, cannabilizing humans alive or dead, mysogyny, hatred, racism, selfishness, selfish ambition, jeqalousy, idolatry, adultery, murdering for the "fun" of it, all governments taking delight in people's misfortunes and suffering. I believe that is close to covering most everything. So, I say. If the resurrection of Christ did not occur, then eat, drink, and be merry for tomorrow we die.
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Colleen McAllister
Chaplain Shawn you have a very dark view of the world. Christ did rise and we should be joyful no matter the evil around us. Spread positivity and you may find some joy.
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Chaplain Shawn
Aye, you may so. It is your opinion, but human beings have perpetrated all sorts of evil on innocent people all over the world. So, maybe it is the human race all along that is dark and evil? All I did was call us out for the disgusting, depraved, and morally bankrupt scum we are. Example: Covid 19 was a multibillion dollar source of revenue. Follow the money and you know who profited while millions of people died. Death for profit is what I call depravity. A prudent and reasonable person would have to agree with that, right? You are a prudent and reasonable person Ms. McAllister?
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Geoffrey C. Olive
It's not witches, wizards, satan, or satanic churches that's molesting children. It's xtian priests from all denominations!
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Humanism Clergy Linda
I am in agreement with you. The biggest threat is in the children own homes. Hocus pocus is just a movie if a person doesn't like the content of said movie just don't take your children to see it. It's silly how simple things are and yet there are those who have to try to make so complicated.
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John D. Partin
Any so-called "priests" and "ministers" who are molesting children aren't true Christian priests and ministers because they aren't following Christ's teaching to only do unto others as you would have others do unto you and to love your neighbor as yourself. So, it doesn't make any sense to blame and condemn all of Christianity because of these or any other people who aren't even doing what Christ told His followers to do. These wolves in sheep's clothing and false apostles were put in the Church by Satan for the very purpose of getting you and other people to blame and condemn all of Christianity because of them, which is as bigoted as hating all black people, white people, Jews, Asians, Hispanics or any other group because of bad examples in it. And you fall for that con game and trip all over yourselves doing it!! How foolish of you!! Since these wolves in sheep's clothing are only following their own lusts and perversions, not Christ, and Satanism teaches that people should follow and indulge in their own lustful desires, these false apostles are, clearly, de facto Satanists, no matter what they say that they are! One of The Satanic Bible's own dedicatees Horatio Alger molested young boys and he certainly isn't the only example of Satanists who have done so or are doing so, even if they keep that under wraps, and proves that pedophilia isn't really against Satanic principles. These phony priests and ministers prove even further that they are really Satanists by their ignoring and violating Christ's teaching that "If anyone offends one of these little ones---those who believe in me and have put their trust in me, it would be better for him if a great millstone were tied around his neck and he were to be drowned in the depths of the sea". Satan himself can appear as an "angel of light" to deceive people even easier and appearing as an "angel of light" is what he is doing in these phony priests and ministers!
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Pastor George Day
John D. Partin,
Who has appointed you judge?
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Does that movie contain a spell to make a bicycle put itself together? FedEx delivered my new 26" red & black Huffy Cranbrook beach cruiser bicycle less than an hour ago, and for the the lives of me (call me Aunt Hahaha, if you will) can't think of a spell for it to put itself together! And that means (double bubble, toil and trouble) I might have to stop as low as to engage in manual labor. However, I think it might be worth it. Imagine the bike I described with 25" high, black apehanger handlebars, black saddlebags with a 4" patriotic bald eagle sticker on each side, and the handlebars decorated with synthetic human skulls! However, I bet that movie wouldn't hurt my soul any, and would probably turn the children who watch it into much better people, than such an estranged mother could.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
The android poltergeist is back to it's old shananigans again. It changed Aunt Hagatha to Aunt Hahahaha in my above comment, and just did it again. It must not have liked the Bewitched tv series, but that was one of my favorites.
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Reverend Kurt
I agree with your hypothesis that this is an advertising ploy. To convince me that this woman is a real person, I would require proof of her existence. We're she a real person I would investigate her financial activity.Who is sponsoring her and what benefits she gets . Witches and wise men were the healers of their day. Much like the doctors and nurses today. Do they steal souls for their god Hippocrates hmmmmm?
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
Advertising for their (failing?) family farm business? I googled the name, there is a jamie gooch in troy tx, website, farm, they sell their products from their farm. Could be a real person, I hope she's the same one because on their website is what I have to assume is their 4 or 5 year old daughter, all tarted up in makeup and lipstick like one of those horrible beauty pageant imprisoned children.
If this is the same jamie gooch, she's worried about the wrong satan because she's presenting her child as an adult woman...absolute shame https://www.instagram.com/goochfamilyfarm/ If this isn't the gooch named in the article then sorry about the comments, not sorry about the little girl-all-tarted-up comments
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Pastor George Day
Rev. JJ, I don't see what you see.
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Cheryl Anne Hamm
Anyone concerned about satanism and soul corrupting witches have 2 basic options: 1. Turn the channel 2. Turn off the TV Then take your child off all social media and electronic communication devises. Take away anything that could corrupt their soul, and shield them from the outside world. See what that does to their soul and mental well being.
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Pastor George Day
Cheryl Anne Hamm, it would simply turn them into Amish. Not bad after all, is it?
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Robert Gagnon
If your kids are that weak minded, they are not prepared for the real world where you can't turn the channel. Better to send them to your God now rather than risk their souls burning for all eternity. I'm sure the courts will understand that any preemptive action would be preferred to watching the Disney channel.
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Pastor George Day
Children are not weak minded. They are just children.
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Lori-Ann Neeb
All these people seeing evil under every rock these days need serious help themselves. And of course she is one of those Texas radicals. They should just give Texas back to Mexico at this point. The whole damn state is more trouble than it is worth anymore. Let all the fanatics be Mexico's problem. I wonder how long it would take them to start appreciating this country more then? After that, let the gators have desantis and all his radical cronies.
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Rev. B
If we give Texas back to Mexico and they want to come back to the US, would that make them immigrants?
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Cindy L Edgar
I am a real pagan High Priestess Ordained Minister and a real Witch and I get tired of the movies industry for portraying The Witches as being evil and we eat children and do bad things to people that does not how we are we're all about Earth I'm always see and many gods and goddesses
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Shango MasterExorcist, D.D.
Blessed Be
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Thankyou, Cindy. Blessed be!
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Douglas Robert Spindler
Another Christian mother with demonic thoughts. Having some dope (stupid Christian) mother say a comedy movie about witches is tool of Satan is just dope in the eyes of young people today. Just another reason young people thing Christians are dope. The women got her minute for Christian fame.
OR is this an advertising campaign by Disney to get people to notice the movie? With a Christian mom saying the movie is "nothing less than a tool of Satan" kids are going to flock to the movie to see for themselves. This is just Disney and Hollywood's way of manipulating Christians. Like many many other recent big time Hollywood movies there are mocking Christians with subtle references. The kids all know about it and are discussing on social media while the parents are seeing the movies as good Christian wholesome movies. Pretty funny if you ask me. Just makes the Christians look silly.
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David Ciambrone
Absolutely. It is the christian fundamentalists who are usually responsible for these type actions and in the process give their brand of religion a bad name and look stupid.
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Pastor George Day
David Ciambrone, and you just sound like a parrot, just repeating what Douglas said.
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Pastor George Day
Douglas Robert Spindler, no wonder the world is in a crisis. If they all follow your footprints, oh my God!
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Pastor George Day I won't say they all are following in my your footprints, but large numbers sure are. Praise the Lord. Young people are just tried of hearing the lies and mean things the Christians are saying. You are a person of God, why are Christians doing this? It's only alienating young people.
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Lionheart
So I think the question is: Will a witchcraft movie corrupt souls? I don’t think anyone really knows what a soul is, if one really exists, but if it’s what everyone thinks a soul is, I think you will find that teaching them that they will burn in a Hell, if they don’t believe in the parents religion, will definitely corrupt their soul. I think that is more mental abuse of a child than just one movie.
A lot of children loved Harry Potter, and as far as I’m aware, no child was left with the impression that if you don’t accept Harry Potter as your savior they will be eternally in torment. 🧙
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Pastor George Day
Lionheart, no. But Harry Potter, as well as this movie, moves children's imagination to embracing witchcraft as a good thing.
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Lionheart
It creates imagination, George. That’s the wonderful thing with a child’s mind. Unfortunately, religion has taken advantage of the immaturity of a child’s mind, and uses it to scare them into religion, whether that be Islam, Christianity, etc. forcing them to believe it’s true.
Children love the magical worlds of fairy’s, elves, pixies, Cinderella, Little Red Riding Hood, Santa Clause, the Tooth Fairy, Wizard of Oz with its nasty Witch, Alice in Wonderland, and yes, Harry Potter. There’s no one telling them though that it’s real.
Telling them they need foreskins to be removed, or telling them something like they will burn in a fiery place for eternity if they don’t “embrace” the story? Now that’s abuse, George. Please tell me you understand that….right?
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Stephanie A Willey
The harvesting of children's souls is done by teaching them hate, exclusion, tribalism, and othering, and NOT through watching silly movies.
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Barry T Gabbard
obviously, you don't know the bible. the idea it to put the evil satanic thoughts in children's heads, therefore corrupting the saints. as Jesus said, to even think about murder is a sin, so is promoting witchcraft and any other demonic crafts. it is a direct affront to God and not some harmless movie--you're a dupe for satan.
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David Ciambrone
Absolutely
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Rev. Dr. Father JJ
But Halloween celebrations, ghost, demons, ax murderer costumes....she all cool with that? WABOFI
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Pastor George Day
Rev. JJ, I don't think so. We evangelical Christians do not celebrate Halloween.
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Colleen McAllister
Pastor George Day you are incorrect. Many Evangelical Christians do celebrate Halloween. I do. Any real Christian knows that the trappings of the holiday have nothing to do with Satan. And real faith does not cower in fear at such silliness.
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Pastor George Day
Colleen McAllister,
You are free to call yourself an evangelical, but celebrating Halloween is definitely against our tenets.
Happy New Year!
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James Riggle-Johnson
I want to know what came through her television that manifested. You can smell crazy on this woman… even through the computer screen. Lol!
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Maybe they're transmitting subliminal messages through the Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN). I wouldn't put it past Pat Robertson.
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Pastor George Day
Carl Bernard Elfstrom, there you go. Would that be of little concern?
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
She’s a few sandwiches shy of a picnic, but the real problem is that her critical thinking skills are non-existent.
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Pastor George Day
Dr. Zerpersande, or maybe you simply choose not to see things from her side of the fence.
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Colleen McAllister
Wow some folks just don't get it. This silly stuff has nothing to do with Satanic anything. I grew up watching movies with witches, demons, and vampires and still do. I turned out fine. Born again, Christian. Evangelical. Church going. Even a deacon at my church. Teach your children tight and they'll turn out just fine.
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Rev. B
Well said, Colleen! I hope some of the more extreme viewers here will read your post and take it to mind.
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Pastor George Day
Colleen McAllister, how about having your kids watching movies where biblical characters are portrayed as good rather than having good witches? If you ate a Christian, as you claim, you probably know what the Bible says about witchcraft. These movies aim at kids as a target audience and mold their minds.
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Lyle Roy Gleason
Pastor Day, my advice to you is to do more religious research on books other than the King James Bible, (especially on the life of the 'King James' for which its named!) You will find that the passage from Exodus 22-18, " suffer not a Witch to live" can be found in NO OTHER BIBLES THAT PROCEEDED IT! And how about 'The Appocrifa', the chapters that were NOT included in the King James bibles? King James was a virulent witch-hater who convinced the Pope to let him write a new bible which included all his personal prejudices and beliefs, and good Christians the world over have been following HIS book of lies for centuries now. Untold amounts of blood and treasure have been wasted following HIS words! Countless innocent women and men have been burned at the stake, following HIS words. Do your homework! I have already done mine! The Reverend L. Roy Gleason
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Pastor George Day
Lyle Roy Gleason,
Interesting you tell me to do my homework. Your factual historical errors are so blunt, you can't even see them yourself! Let's go point by point.
You say: You will find that the passage from Exodus 22-18, " suffer not a Witch to live" can be found in NO OTHER BIBLES THAT PROCEEDED IT! And how about 'The Apocrypha', the chapters that were NOT included in the King James Bibles? The Septuagint FAR predates by MILLENNIA the King James. Here it goes on that same verse - and I quote verbatim: 17 You shall not save the lives of sorcerers. Now, here is the dictionary definition of sorcerer: a person who claims or is believed to have magic powers; a wizard.
Your second point: And how about 'The Apocrypha', the chapters that were NOT included in the King James Bibles?
This has nothing to do with the King James Bible. The Council of Jamnia (presumably Yavneh in the Holy Land) was a council purportedly held late in the 1st century AD to finalize the development of the canon of the Hebrew Bible in response to Christianity, which embraced the Maccabees and other Wisdom writs. These books are included in the Septuagint, the translation se by the early apostles. We Protestants accept the Jewish Old Testament Canon but still consider the Apocrypha good books t read. Some of them are fictitious, but others, like the Maccabees, are historically accurate. Hannukah is based on that. Catholics accept some, Orthodox accept more. They are known within the whole mainstream Church.
Your other point: King James was a virulent witch-hater who convinced the Pope to let him write a new bible which included...
How hilarious! King James was the son of Queen Mary of Scotland, who was certainly Catholic, but he inherited the throne of England as well due to a lack of heirs after the death of Queen Elizabeth I. Elizabeth and Mary were cousins of the first degree, and she had Mary executed after giving her shelter against her Protestants revolutionists. She tried to have Elizabeth killed so she could take over the throne and re-establish Catholicism. But that was pure fantasy. Parliament had already decided that Protestantism was the established religion: Church of England & Church of Scotland. There is NO WAY King James, who naturally succeeded the throne, even wanted to start upsetting the Protestants! He couldn't give a toss what the pope had to say!
Your last quote: Untold amounts of blood and treasure have been wasted following HIS words! Countless innocent women and men have been burned at the stake, following HIS words.
This has nothing to do with King James or even the pope. First of all the greatest witch trial took place in the colony of Massachusetts, in Salem. Witches were hanged, not burned. The practice of burning heretics - not witches - was in Europe.
So, it looks like you are the one who needs to do the homework :-)
Happy New Year :-)
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tuppennyblue
Oh, C'mon, Satanic Ritual Abuse (SRA) DOES NOT EXIST!!!! EVERY alleged case from McMartin Pre-School to Hoaxtead (with Cleveland, Orkney and others on the way)has been found to be false. These can be dangerous allegations - parents have had their children removed by CPS because of ridiculous allegations, and these dangerous devil-tales (I was going to say fairy tales!) should be stomped on and not perpetuated.
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Krystina S.
I agree completely. I remember that horrible preschool CRIME on the part of the parents and police, destroying the lives of the INNOCENT day care center family employees. I remember in small towns all over that the teens would gleefully spray paint or place a few creepy things around, just to torment the STUPID police into expending time and money. I remember playing Dungeons and Dragons, and how stupid people thought this wonderful roleplaying game was somehow satanic. The Church of Satan is really not what people think it is. There are POSERS who make up stuff, who are just evil people making up excuses to do evil. Witches/wiccans and other nonChristian people are just like anybody else. Evil Christians, Evil Witches, Evil Satanists- they can happen. Thankfully, they are rare. Let's just teach our children that other people like to play let's pretend like we do...
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Pastor George Day
Krystina S., your comment makes very little sense.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
This is making me hungry. I think I'll have a can of Underwood deviled ham with crackers for breakfast.
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Mathew James Olson
Very true allegations can lead to so much more that is not fact.many people believe wiccans are satanic just because they wear a pentacle not realizing the symbol they see for satanic is the absolute wrong way.
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Pastor George Day
Mathew James Olson,
What exactly are they? And what exactly is the pentacle for?
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Laura McAllister
Come on guys Stop thinking about every little thing. My daughter grow up watching charm , vampires and every other witch movie out there, she works in a hospital ( nurse). Maybe it is the Parent who is making the kids Behavior.
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Shango MasterExorcist, D.D.
Real witches would never look as silly as the characters in this movie.
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John P Maher
YOUR RIGHT 100 % SHANGO, I KNOW BECAUSE MY WIFEs A WITCH and SHE is HOT, HOT, HOT !
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Shango MasterExorcist, D.D.
Mine also!
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Thankyou Shango, but some people do think I look spooky, and I really don't mind.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Shango MasterExorcist, D.D. I don't know, have you seen my wife?
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Douglas, I bet you won't show this to your wife. I bet she'd turn you into a frog!
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Douglas Robert Spindler
Carl Bernard Elfstrom I was a frog until she kissed me.
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Canadian Yankee
You do realize you have to sleep sometime, right ;-)
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Canadian Yankee I'll sleep when I'm dead. Or maybe I'm already dead and I have been resurrected. Just don't know I'm just? (John 5:28–29; Acts 24:15; D&C 76:17) Or unjust. (1 Corinthians 15:22–23; D&C 88:97–102; Revelation 20:5–6)
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Pastor George Day
Douglas Robert Spindler, are you a Mormon?
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Just take more uppers, man.
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Rodney Knight
I whole heartily agree with you it a shame those who are suppose to be peaceful, loving and kind are the only ones filled with hate and malice I know it's not What they all feel perhaps the true Christians should maybe who don't agree with the haters should take back back thier beliefs and religion and honor the they profess to follow. He ate the pagan and did not scorn them .
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Nicholas J Page
I never got corrupted by any film as a child.Want allowed to watch horror
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Nicholas, it sounds like you had a very sheltered childhood, but if your wife will give you permission to, you can watch horror movies now.
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Katelynne Shouse
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA....what a maroon!!!
I’ve got an idea! How about “concerned parents” not let their children watch the film? Again, mind your business and your own house.
Theresa Gull,
That is a very good point, and I 100% agree: freedom of speech.
But someone has to pave the way. So, yes... some 'woke' parents might just need to say something, after all.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment :-)