Evangelical leader Pat Robertson passed away earlier this week, and ohhh boy did people have some feelings about that.
We’ll get to some of those reactions down below. First, a quick refresher in case you're not familiar with him.
Who Was Pat Robertson?
To some, he was a trailblazer who helped bring strong Christian values and biblical teachings directly into living rooms across America.
To others, he was the face of religious bigotry – a man who championed the oppression of any group deemed to be misaligned with biblical teachings (which, it turned out, was a lot of people).
Robertson founded the first Christian TV network, Christian Broadcasting Network (CBN), in 1960. Through the iconic show he hosted, “The 700 Club,” he helped grow televangelism into a powerful force, and in many ways made it what it is today.
Robertson was also tremendously successful in channeling evangelical faith into political action, building a strong coalition of Christian voters that helped reshape the political landscape of America in the 1980s and '90s. He even ran for president himself in 1988, though he failed to get the nomination.
Why Was Pat Robertson So Controversial?
Critics argue that his “friendly pastor persona” was not genuine, and that he held some sincerely hateful views. For example, in this old clip from an appearance on Larry King, Robertson seems pleasant on air – but then gets caught on a hot mic calling a viewer a “homo” when it cuts to commercial.
Robertson also held some… extreme opinions. He frequently came under fire for making controversial statements about gay people and supporters of abortion rights. We outlined a few of his more outrageous claims in this Facebook post:
Mixed Reactions to Robertson’s Death
In that same post, we asked our friends on Facebook: “What will you most remember Pat Robertson for?” This question elicited some very strong (and contrasting) answers, and we figured we’d share a few here.
Many folks seem to hold a disdainful view of Robertson and his impact on humanity... and, well, they weren't shy about letting that be known.
However, not everyone saw it that way. Many people expressed positive sentiments about Robertson, his work, and how he affected them.
And still others took a more nuanced view, noting that death is a tragedy even if you object to someone's views:
What do you think Pat Robertson’s legacy should be?
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Wilberta M. Berry
His legacy should be he was one of the worst human beings to ever walk the planet and he corrupted Christianity more than any other human that walked the planet. A totally evil man next to Hitler.
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Kaylin Elise Somavia
Pat Robertson was a misrepresentation of a Christian of the largest kind. He used Christianity for his own purposes to twist its meaning to his purposes and private beliefs and then preached those twisted beliefs to thousands of people who were looking for a home for their souls. May he never know peace, may he know pain from the lies he told, may he know fear for the judgement he will face, and please let me be there to watch.
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Daniel Gray
I am amazed at all the hatred and vitriol against one person in this thread by people who claim to be followers of religion. Its absolutely amazing that the Mods allow this thread to even stay here.
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Gene Schenck
God does not care what gender you like better he let you decide your bed he my not agree with it. This is the way things are good or bad it is not for us to say you are good or bad the important thing is you love all of mankind and not be unjust to anyone there is no sex in heaven all it does is cause trouble on earth sometimes and other times it can be quite beautiful love, forgive others that do not like something. You all will be judged so live with that thought and do not worry about someone else unless you want to help them as Jesus forgave and inspired to follow our father.
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Weldon Joe Horton
I have noticed that the air we all breathe seems cleaner and more pure since we no longer share it with a crazed hate monger spewing lies and bigotry.
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Dennis Horvitz
Good riddance!
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Daniel Todd Kamm
Everybody dies... just another speck in the cosmic dust.
I wipe them off my furniture (sometimes) and wonder.
How a speck gets such an ego and accumulates so much wealth and influence is beyond me.
I just had a flashback to the good doctor's "Horton Hears a Who."
The answer is that an elephant had something to do with it.
You can figure it out from there.
Peace, out and to those who celebrate, have a Free Juneteenth and a very Proud Pride!
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Gene Schenck
All of my 932 spirit guides welcomed him a a good spirit and welcomed to become part of the group. I asked his spirit if he believes in the father son and holy spirit, will gladly submit his soul to the holy father. They said he is very much welcome to heaven to it's highest in a very short time he is now in the third level of heaven and will be in Gods level in a short time and love in bestoed to him from all 3 of us.
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Lionheart
Gene, I really don’t mean to be disrespectful, but everything that you have just said here is so full of absolute rubbish, with no demonstrable evidence whatsoever of any semblance of truth. This is exactly what religious indoctrination does to people. You seriously need to consider getting help, but unfortunately I think you are too far gone. I genuinely wish you well. 🤗
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Gene Schenck
I guess you do not believe In past lives or Jesus healed. Monks and nuns did healing I also do healing using reiki that uses energy created by God. It is a different type of energy that can be directed at great distances to some one in need of some type of healing. It can not do all that Jesus can do but it can help quite a bit. May God bless you and help you at his discression. May love compassion and forgiveness be with you.
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Lionheart
I too used to call myself a Reiki Master, but when the reality set in that there was no demonstrable evidence of any of the so called “different types of energy” that I had conned myself to accept, I stopped fooling myself, and others.
Likewise, we still have no demonstrable evidence that any god is real. The first person to do so will qualify for the Nobel Prize. So far, no one has passed the test.
May the truth of all things, using logic, reason, and critical thought, set you free. Thank you for your comment.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
932 spirit guides. That would be 932 demonic spirits. You need excorcism.
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Gene Schenck
You made me laugh you are not aware that a few may be bad but most are of good what do you think of our past presidents many of them are some of my spirit guides. What about t Edison Albert Ben Franklin the list go on. I guess you do not like these spirits either. I have them question who is in the group as well as are questioned about believing in the father son and holy spirit and willing to give of there soul back to God.
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Murray Nick Jones
Mr. Robertson was the epitome of intolerance and the hatred of anything that opposes an antiquated understanding of scripture. His fundamentalistic bastardized view of The Christ's teaching led many people to hold hateful and despicable views of life outside the Evangelical bubble. Thus, Pat Robertson is the reason many people left the church universal, and thus Christ's teaching of love, acceptance, forgiveness, and grace. As a result, Mr. Robertson has a lot to answer for and he was wrong in pretty much every way and most of what he said was machinations from a diseased imagination. He was so heavenly-minded he was of no earthly good.
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Gene Schenck
All of my 932 spirit guides welcomed him a a good spirit and welcomed to become part of the group. I asked his spirit if he believes in the father son and holy spirit, will gladly submit his soul to the holy father. They said he is very much welcome to heaven to it's highest in a very short time he is now in the third level of heaven and will be in Gods level in a short time and love in bestoed to him from all 3 of us. Gene schenck all isn't roses we are human but spirits have a better idea of good and bad.
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Rev, Rene L.
Pope Clement iv, to the other "Princes of the church" : "It has served us well, this Myth of Christ." And the financial bloodletting has continued. Well done, televangelists!!! Goodbye, Pat Robertson, may you find what you deserve if there is an afterlife!
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Tom Herman
"We are all Children of the same Universe." Having free will is what distinguishes human beings from the beasts. Civilization and their societies is what shapes the morals of the times. It is an ever evolving process. The control of choice is a dynamic of who has the power at the moment. The evolution of civilization will continue. My hope is we get it right. If energy is a constant then Robertson's energy is absorbed back into the universe. It's neither good or bad, it's just energy. While the rest of us exist, let us use our free will to make choices that shape civilization, hopefully for the better, resisting the control of one's choices, while doing no harm to another human being.
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Jimmie D. Dickison
I don't believe in Hell, but guys like Pat Robertson make me kinda wish it were real!
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Scott D Yingling
Dangerous voice leading the lost on a path of hatred and lies, taking money from the masses and enriching himself on the backs of the vulnerable who are lost and looking for hope and something to believe in. This man was simply a cult leader in business for himself and his family. The God Business. False prophets and con men have been using their influence to gain power and riches over the people to whom they are selling lies since the days of the Garden of Eden. I believe his afterlife isn't going to be the happy holy heavenly experience he might have been expecting. .
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Jennifer Angel Marsh
I didn't use to wish hell on anybody but now I think hell is too good for some ppl and Pat Robertson is one of them! He was a hateful shrew who spread nothing but bullsht lies and vitriol. He may have led to the likes of Reagan, Rush lamebrain, orange sht-for-brains, and the GOP (gang of pricks). Like so many ppl he took a potential gift from God and literally sold it to the devil profiting from others' misery.
He constantly used us as punching bags! He blamed our LGBTQIA community and women's rights for natural disasters and even for 9/11! WE'RE NOT SCAPEGOATS!!! He called HIV/AIDS "God weeding his garden"!
He b***hed about Michelle Obama in a sleeveless dress but PRAISED nude Melania.
He blamed Haiti for their tsunami for rejecting their own slavery.
He called Hindus "demonic".
I hope he pays dearly a thousandfold for every life he's hurt. Either in hell or in a future lifetime. With any luck maybe he'll come back and have some miserable lives to repay some of his bad karma and learn how his actions and venom impacted ppl. I can hear Jesus telling him, "Depart from me, I never knew thee!"
"For there shall arise false prophets and they shall deceive many." He wasn't kidding.
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Anne 'Arie
I was not fond of Pat Robertson. In fact, when he was on TV every day, I turned the TV off every time I heard his voice. My reason? His outspoken criticism of all Muslim people after 9-11. Having lived in the Middle East, in 2 different countries, I knew that he didn't have a clue what he was talking about when he started railing against their religion and claiming that all Muslim people were like the whacked-out terrorists who flew planes into the World Trade Center. It seemed like he was inciting retaliation against people who were totally innocent. I have observed over the decades of my life that people are people and there is good and bad in all of us. I believed then, and I still believe now, that there are far more good people in this world than bad. I came to see Pat Robertson as one of the bad. Fanatics from any walk of life are dangerous. And I sincerely believe that self-proclaimed "Christians" like Pat Robertson have done more to hurt Christianity than help bring people to it. And I thank you for providing this opportunity to say this on a forum where it looks like I'm not the only one who didn't like him.
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Joseph Bourgeois
Pat Robinson was a Fake Christian, a ConMan, a hateful & racist person. As are most Evangelists. I believe Robinson is receiving his Just Rewards and is burning in hell.
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AnnaMarie Ingrassia
He and the lot of "Evil-angel-icals"are the false prophets for profit. It is right in the bible...almost teaches them how t be...they fleece their flocks. they are the wolves in sheep's clothing. they are NOT true christians, they are evil beings...if someone is not just like them, they want to persecute them. If you need movie references, they are the Stepford Wives married to The Boys From Brazil.
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John Peck
Kenneth, I will pray for you today that God, the creator of the universe, will open your eyes and mind to who He is. I recall a story in the Bible where people were going to stone a woman. Jesus stopped it by saying, “Let the sinless man cast the first stone “. The crowd went away. Then Jesus turned to the woman and said “ where have your accusers gone? Then Jesus turned to her, they are not here to condemn you. Neither am I, go and SIN no more.
I say this story because Jesus forgives but HE also wants people to not SIN according to His word.
There are a majority of people in this world who believe in a higher being, someone bigger than themselves and find comfort in God.
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Marshall Peteet Walker
I am saddened by the hateful comments about Pat Robertson, above, and pray for those who cannot share a kind word about a departed servant of Christ.
Make your own lives a beacon of light and joy, and share that joy with others, that is the work there is to do.
Rev. M. Walker U.S. Virgin Islands
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
"Make your own lives a beacon of light and joy, and share that joy with others, that is the work there is to do."
Do you think that is what Pat Robertson did? Because judging by the comments here, and nationwide, a LOT of people feel he did the exact opposite.
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ServantOfJudgement
Don't know much about the dude. Never watched his shows, neither did maw. Maybe a couple of times maw did. He created the Cristian radio network which has spread the word of The Christ to nearly all nations. If that's God's work I'd say he did it well. I imagine him as a child called to the arms of Jesus, as we all will be one day. Innocent and willing. Oh how the love of God is too great, too great for men to know in their infancy.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
If there is a God, He is farther above us than we are above an amoeba and is just as incomprehensible to us as we are to an amoeba - and we are all just amoeba - even you.
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Joann Teague
I have the understanding that Revere Pat Robinson was a great man of God and he had the word of God to back up things he spoke about. Pat Robinson was a man still in the flesh. No man is perfect but Robinson was forgiven by Christ Jesus He was saved. Man that has been born again is a new creature in Christ. He was not perfect but forgiven, on earth he had not arrived yet but now he has arrived to be perfection.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
You mean Pat "Robertson"?
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Servant Of Judgement and Keith Wash, why waste y'all's breaths on people like us who oppose y'all? There are other blogs for people who think and believe like y'all. The ULC even has a few other blogs for ULC Ministers. Why not give them a try? I tried the other ones, but they weren't for me. I relate best on this one. Y'all might fit in better on one of the other ones. Don't give up searching.
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ServantOfJudgement
Wow. Just wow. Methinks I'm in hot water here with all these inclusive and loving people. Very inclusive. Very loving. Err, uhh, yeah.....
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Do you have a specific issue you'd like to discuss? Or are you satisfied with delivering vague decrees of mass disapproval and condescension?
I could certainly see why some people would be.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
I agree. Apparently they want to embrace serial killers, Hitler and everyone else. Defending the immoral leads to greater sins.
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Lionheart
Awe, Pat Robertson meant well. He was just so messed up in his head believing in all those stories in that book. He was the perfect example of what can happen to people who have been heavily indoctrinated into biblical rubbish.
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David Arthur Lewis
Whenever I asked, "Who Would Jesus Hate?", Pat Robertson had a never-ending supply of answers. He was a truly sick and warped individual with a bottomless well of bigotry, hatred and evil intent. I thank the Holy Spirit that he is dead and gone. There is no afterlife for such as he. And the world is better place.
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Daniel Gray
Amazing isnt it. You have so many people in this thread attacking a dead man all because he didnt bend over and kiss their rears or follow their flavor of the month. I mean Why should he care what people think of him, you cant hurt him anymore and thats why you are throwing such a major fit. Disgusting
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
"Why should he care what people think of him [?]"
https://www.healthline.com/health/mental-health/sociopath
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Jimmy Moon
He was a great preacher of the WORD. He stood up to the insane, perverted pride parade and hurt their feelings, but he was trying to get them to repent of their sins and turn to JESUS. I hope they get right before their reprobate mind is gone.
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Amber Fry
Not really. He was a great bender and twister of the word. He focused more on pre-Christian dogma than he did what Jesus actually taught. But that's fine, to each their own. I just wish more people really focused on how the bible developed and what Christ specifically taught since the whole point was to be as Christ like as possible.
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Gene Schenck
Amber you keep following good things that my cousin taught that was my first past life. Love, forgiveness,to all.
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Lionheart
No one knows what Jesus actually taught, Amber. No one that ever knew him, if he really existed, ever wrote about him.
Do you really know how the Bible developed? Do you know who the authors really were? Have you been misled?
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Here, have some science:
https://www.nature.com/articles/518288a
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Thank you Jimmy for standing up to the leftist idiots in here.
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Aron Mark Doherty
He’s dead and that is a good thing. He will quickly be forgotten, I hope he took his last breath in some of the pain he inflicted on others during his vile lifetime. He will not be missed and neither I suspect will you be when you are nothing but a bad memory for the people around you.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Here, have some science:
https://www.nature.com/articles/518288a
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Colleen McAllister
To give my answer to this question - Pat Robertson's legacy will be how he is remembered years from now. Individual opinions do not form a legacy. How he is written or spoken about does. I did not like thevman and what he became but my single opinion has no bearing on his legacy.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson_controversies
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Parson Golden
If there is a Hell, then I hope Pat Robertson is roasting there now and for all eternity. But the logical side of me takes some comfort knowing that his corpse is just rotting in the ground.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
Dang... Not one person has anything nice to say about Pat Robertson. Let me try... Pat was a nice man telling us how to liver our lives according to his maker. Let's hope he enjoys his eternal everylasting life with his maker, the devil.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
I'm afraid the devil.is our present administration . You support the killing of the unborn, the molestation of our young, supporting people claiming to be women in sports only because they can't compete in a man's sport but proclaim to be women so they can win and destroy real femininity. How dare you. The names I have for most of the people in here aren't appropriate but to let the LGBTQIA+×÷!-JXRJBHGVN push their desired ideology down my throat is enough. It will stop or it will destroy our country and the West. Praise God that Putin sees what our debauchery is all about and that fool Zylinsky is one of them. So is Trudeau. Him and his little pink tutu. Obama and his gender wife Mike. The world is going to hell if it goes left.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Forced pregnancy is a war crime according to the Geneva conventions.
Supporting the anti-abortion movement requires embracing the mindless absurdity that a brainless cell is a "Person", and to this brainless cell is transferred all the rights and privileges of personhood that formerly belonged to the real actual conscious woman at the moment of conception, who is then reduced to the status of incubator.
No brain = no person. This is the undeniable biological scientific FACT that anti-abortionists dance and contort to deny, but no matter how they hope and wish and pray and fantasize is NEVER going away. It's textbook magical thinking.
99% of abortions are done before 21 weeks, but anti-abortionists are constantly acting like every abortion happens minutes before labor begins. That is an outright LIE, designed to evoke a visceral sympathetic reaction, just like the outright lie that a brainless lump of cells should be granted bodily autonomy by stealing it from the real actual aware conscious BORN woman. Anti-abortionists promote this LIE because they know the truth is inadaquate to promote their cause. A fetus doesn't even get close to the sophistication necessary for awareness until the third trimester, but nobody has an unnecessary abortion in the third trimester anyway, so that isn't what this is about.
The entire anti-abortion movement is based on lies. It is just another wing of the conservative busybody Gestapo seeking to run people's lives and imagine they're heroes for doing it - but anybody with any intelligence sees right through their cruel self-serving delusions.
This is what makes the anti-abortion movement brainless, criminal, and outright sociopathic.
Additionally, anti-abortionists are rapists.
Rape, by definition, is copulation against someone's will. Rape, by definition, is to have forced impregnation. Rape, by definition, is procreation without consent.
Rapists rape because they want what someone has, and they take it by force, completely disregarding what the other person wants, their sole consideration their own gratification.
The foundation of the anti-abortionist movement is religious or ideological, depending on who you ask. The act, however, is to FORCE a woman to have a child she does not want. Having established the need to control women, the religious imagine God sends a soul into the womb at the moment of conception, and the ideological simply declare a brainless zygote is the same as an adult. Having decided that abortion is MURDER, they then feel justified in imposing their delusions by any means.
This becomes doubly apparent when anti-abortionists force a woman to carry and deliver a baby from rape. First a man uses the woman's body for his physical gratification, then the anti-abortionists use her body for their religious/ideological gratification. It becomes a rape after a rape, with lifelong consequences for the woman and ZERO responsibilities for her rapists. Throughout all of this the woman has NO SAY as person after person uses her body against her will for their own gratifications.
This is what makes anti-abortionists rapists.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Anyone who supports abortion falls into the same category as Hitler's regime and all the Communist murders. You respect life. If you support abortion in any circumstance then you have no respect for life, period. Everyone talks about rape but the statistics of conceiving in rape are very minimal. Gid creates and brings forth life. If he does so in a rape there is a divine reason why. Don't question God. If you're all so adamant in defending g abortion they why were you all born. Why weren't you all aborted. Please give me one reason why your life has meaning. There are over 6 million reasons why those deaths were all created and then snuffed out. Maybe you will be in the number of the 6 billion Klaus Schwab wants to eradicate.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Who are you to dictate what 'God' does or doesn't do?
If you are right, and there is a God, then abortion happens with God's consent. He's omniscient and omnipotent, right? I mean that's not even a question, right? Either God allows it, or He doesn't - right?
Open your eyes. God creates renewal - that's what's all around us - and it is VASTLY larger than your idea of it, or mine - and constant renewal only exists because of constant death. You know I'm right.
Rape is a separate war crime according to the Geneva Conventions. Forced impregnation is a separate war crime according to the Geneva Conventions. Forced pregnancy is defined as preventing a woman from controlling her own pregnancy - such as denying her an abortion.
My life has meaning because I exist. If I had been aborted, then there would be nothing, because I never would have existed. The life I lead, the thoughts I have, the lives I touch, all never would have existed had I been aborted, so it wouldn't matter. Nobody would care, nor should they.
But I do exist. Having existed, having lived, having touched other lives, none of that can ever be taken away. It is part of the tapestry of time forever, and who knows after that.
Aborted fetuses too don't matter, because they never existed. People like to imagine they exist, but they don't. That's the irrefutable scientific fact. Even if the religious are right, and they are granted a soul at conception, there was never a physical analog for it to act through, so its short existence is meaningless - but let's be real, God is omniscient, omnipotent, and transcendent, which means He exists beyond space and time - so would see an abortion coming an eternity away.
Unless He doesn't actually exist, in which case the religious argument instantly evaporates to nothing.
The pot can't hold itself.
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Amber Fry
Abortion wasn't even considered a legal issue until around 150 years or so ago. Religions didn't get into the act until around the 1950s.It doesn't affect others to decide to abort or not and should be left entirely up to the person carrying a pregnancy as it affects their personal life and health the most. When having an abortion suddenly causes the death of a large number of people already here and functioning in society then fine. But I've yet to see an abortion affect anyone but the individual carrying it. Medical procedures decided between patient and doctor shouldn't be anyone else's business and certainly not be dictated by government as that is the epitome of any kind of controlling government, communist or fascist alike. It's far more in line with Hitlar's regime to force a birth than allow people to decide for themselves.
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Rev. Kev
Let me get this straight. You are against abortion, the majority of which occur on a fetus in the early developmental stages when it has virtually no brain, a simple heart, and runs on a basic, autonomic system from a cluster of nerves in what will one day be the spinal column. Which forces women to be captive incubators (assuming she and the fetus survive the process). Pregnancy can also lead to severe diseases that arise in women from the hormonal and bodily changes they are experiencing. Some of which can be permanent. Even fatal. Then we have the financial impact of being forced to deal with the medical bills involved in the entire prenatal and birthing process. Then food, clothes, childcare, etc. None of which the mother was prepared for nor wanted.
All for a political slogan not even in the Bible.
BUT.....
You thank God for Putin. A man who launched an unprovoked attack on a neighboring nation (and even if you buy into his propaganda, none of it justifies the attack). In the process, his military and mercenary forces have killed innocent men, women, and children. They bombed schools and hospitals. Those forces also tortured and executed civilians. As a result, people were killed, displaced, and global markets are unstable. It even costs you and me more to buy groceries because of this.
He's the good guy?
I don't understand your thinking. You aren't pro-life because you are thankful for a war criminal responsible for uncounted deaths. You can't be compassionate or caring for the lives of others for the same, obvious reasons.
Are you just so filled with hate that you'd burn down an entire house just to exterminate what you perceive as some vermin living there?
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Mary Theresa Usrey
Please seek help for your black heart. All that hate must be a burden for you to bear. I will pray you will see that love is love.
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Jennifer Angel Marsh
"With all due respect," Keith, you're a hateful shrew.
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Garrick William Hale
Keith you ever think what an effect your words of hate and intolerance and exclusion, do to the young kids who are struggling with their orientation or identity? I know I struggled. In first grade I knew I was different and on the outside. Your comments and attitudes along with your archaic beliefs are causing kids to end their fucking lives. But hey, it’s all about the unborn right? Their blood is on your hands, along with many others. But I guess that’s what your god is good at. Killing and persecuting right? Not love? Count me out.
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Jennifer Angel Marsh
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Omg. Gaslighting. So many in here who accuse the deceased of hatred when they hate him. Best to close your fat traps. I don't like LGBTQ+×÷-1ahgrjv either. Why should I support them shoving their ideology down my throat. Sodom and Gomorrah were destroyed because of homosexuality. Face history. Repent or be desroy:c
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Parson Golden
Yah, that’s not an example of “gaslighting”.
However your self-flagellating fantasies of Sodom and Gomorrah is pretty close to a demonstration of gaslighting.
I see you used this forum as an excuse to advertise your bigotry of an entire class of people, such a good and god-fearing “Christian” you are.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Keith Allen Steele Eash Why, because you are a Christian and that is what Jesus would do. Jesus did not teach hatred, he taught love. Keith Allen Steele Eash you should repent asking God to forgive your sins, and love your LGBTQ+ brothers and sisters as God and Jesus tells tells you.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
I hold nothing against the mentally deranged. It's the sins I condemn. Jesus taught love. He also was very clear with his message which was repent of your sins and accept me or be condemned. Which is it? Repentance and love. Or inclusiveness and acceptance of one's immorality. Sodom and Gommorah was given a chance. But God couldn't find one person worth forgiveness. So he destroyed the two cities. If not one righteous person is found its destruction is imminent.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
@ Eash - That schtick is as old as time.
Whenever a conservative talks about 'personal responsibility', it's always somebody else's, and whenever an evangelical hands out judgement, it's always somebody else's.
Christianity has had 2000 years to straighten out humanity, and now look at us. Despite this some of us have learned a thing or two and can see clearly just what is wrong with the Christian church and the old school religious mentality - and it explains everything.
Adult humans speak for themselves, stand by what they say, and take responsibility for it.
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Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
Real Christians (the ones who actually believe all the supernatural crap) love their Jesus— even though his father (whom believing Christians, call God) drowned approx 12 million men, women (many of whom were pregnant ) and two million children.
This Christian God also arranged to have his only son tortured to death — but as now they love Trump — they have similar feelings for the Jesus/God combination.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
So Dingleberry, where did God drown so.many people. Are you referring to Noah's flood. Doesn't say how may drowned. Why don't you hate filled anti religious nutsacks just leave this site. Atheistic idiots and Satanists don't belong here.
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Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
Keith — assumedly you’re not a ULC minister; assumedly because you were unable to complete the application to become one.
I was able to calculate the number of human beings drowned (murdered) by your Christian God — because I studied demographic trends in graduate school.
And, I found out that your Christian God arranged to have his only begotten son tortured, then murdered by crucifixion, so that Christianity would have a symbolic to identify Christian houses of worship — and by these torture devices that many Christians wear around their necks,
Let us know if the ULC ever makes you a minister — so that I, as a ULC bishop, can excommunicate you.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Keith Allen Steele Eash Why do you preach anger and hate why God tells you to teach forgiveness, acceptance, and loving your neighbor. Better shape up if you want to get into heaven. Right now you headed to hell.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Forgiveness, acceptance, and love of neighbors doesn't mean you accept them and their sins. You condemn the sins but live the sinner but if they do not show any signs of repentance and meaning it then we cast them out of the Christian family. Jesus was very clear. Repent and believe in the Good News or be sent to hell. I think I'm a little closer to the truth then the morons who want to include everyone and not d e many their repentance. That is why the mainline Protestant Churches ate having empty pews. They've included the sinners into their churches and not calling for their repentance. They are even allowing these trans fools to come in and do their disgusting gyrations during worship. Not in my church. And no transgender allowed. If you were born a male or female that's what you stay. I can see who you voted for. Diaper Joe. And I won't pray for anyone like that murdering communist. Why don't you move to China since you prefer to identify with the left.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
"I do understand what love is, and that is one of the reasons I can never again be a Christian. Love is not self denial. Love is not blood and suffering. Love is not murdering your son to appease your own vanity. Love is not hatred or wrath, consigning billions of people to eternal torture because they have offended your ego or disobeyed your rules. Love is not obedience, conformity, or submission. It is a counterfeit love that is contingent upon authority, punishment, or reward. True love is respect and admiration, compassion and kindness, freely given by a healthy, unafraid human being."
~Dan Barker
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Rev. Kev
That is a very good quote. 👍🏻👍🏻
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Matthew Mastrogiovanni
Pat is an example of what a religious leader should NEVER be. Hate and lies, this man is in hell right now.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
You realize only God judges. If you judge then that is where you will go. If you don't live a moral life then you will suffer the consequences. It's your choice. Every major religion in the world condemns homosexuality and embrace Robertson 's morality. Not his faith but certainly his morality. You wish to live in Sodom and Gomorrah you're free to do so but don't shove it down anyone's throat and don't grate your hips in front of our children or your lewd parades. Even the female impersonators have condemned the present insanity we are now in. My God wake up.
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Rev. Kev
Hinduism is a major world religion. The Hindu American Foundation, in its policy brief on Hindus and Homosexuality, notes that Hinduism does not provide a fundamental spiritual reason to reject or ostracize LGBTQ individuals, and that, “Given their inherent spiritual equality, Hindus should not socially ostracize LGBT individuals, but should accept them as fellow sojourners on the path to moksha.”
Zen Buddhism does not make a distinction between same-sex and opposite-sex relationships. Instead, the expectation is not to harm, exploit or manipulate others, which would directly violate the third precept.
Sikhism doesn't specifically condemn LGBTQ people, and they welcome to temple and other activities.
So I think the claim "Every major religion in the world condemns homosexuality" is not exactly true.
Just sayin'
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Charles Leroy Good II
Keith Allen Steele Eash,
You state that only God judges, yet your statement was one of judgement. Are you God? If not, then let people live their lives as they want. You do not know their personal morality. You only know your judgement of their morality. If people are not hurting others then leave them alone. Leave the judgement to God.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Within my faith I don't judge. God has already passed judgement on those who go against what he established so argue with God. You people in here proclaim science and science has given us male and female, not Adam and Stevie the sissy. You proclaim science but constantly go against what is founded biologically
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Rev. Kev
Technically, science didn't give us male and female. Biology did that. And gestation is not a very clean-cut process. Genetic recombination and duplication isn't exacting. So, sometimes, things get mixed up in the recipe, as it were, and the little bun baking in the oven comes out a little different. Gender dysphoria is a real thing. As is having more than one set of external sexual identifiers. As is having sexual preferences for the same sex, which is all involuntary brain function.
We don't consciously choose to whom we are attracted. We can't make our hormones pump into our bloodstream at our command. Increased heart rate, dilated pupils, etc. are all involuntary, autonomic responses to attraction. Homosexuals and heterosexuals have had fMRI scans to monitor brain function while being shown pictures of men and women. The homosexuals show increased brain activity in the area for attraction when seeing same sex pictures. The heterosexuals showed the same increased activity when shown the pictures of opposite sex models.
That's the science.
I don't think people are arguing with God. I think people are disagreeing with an ancient, agrarian society's rules that were claimed to come from God by the religious folks who pretended to speak for Him.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Gender dysphoria is a mental disorder and should be treated as such. Nature intended two genders. It is evil and evil alone that has caused the other disgusting outcome.
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Jennifer Angel Marsh
Oh I'm sorry. Are you a medical professional?? Are you a therapist?? Are you God?? Do you know ppl with gender dysphoria?? Are you licensed?? No?? Then STFU, nobody wants to hear from you! Troll.
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Rev. Kev
Jennifer Angel Marsh,
You said exactly what I wanted to say....but in a much more direct manner. 😉
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Shane Allen Landers
Jennifer Angel Marsh, nice! (said as Kevin Malone from "The Office" would say it...
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Rev. Kev
"Nature intended two genders."
Nature doesn't "intend" anything as it has no brain or capacity for reasoned thought to commit itself to any course of action.
I also don't think you have the job of speaking for all of nature to begin with.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
God is the Author or Nature. Intelligent Design. So you believe God has no capacity for reasoned thought. God is omniscient, omnipotent, omnipresent. I would argue you're the one with no brain or capacity of reasoned thought.
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Rev. Kev
Keith Allen Steele Eash,
YOU wrote: "Nature intended two genders" NOT "God intended two genders". I replied directly to what you wrote.
So maybe reconsider your own choice of words before you take it upon yourself to insult others.
Especially since there is zero evidence for "intelligent Design". Apologists have been trying to sell that with one of the worst arguments there is: the Watchmaker Fallacy.
I have no idea who you are as a person, but you don't come across as a very decent human being in these discussions. You talk a lot about God but you can't seem to follow the most basic teachings of Jesus.
In short: you make a lot of noise talking the talk, but have yet to take even a visible baby step in walking the walk.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
There are basically two views on gender divergence - one based on fear, bigotry and prejudice, and one based on science.
Here's some science: https://www.nature.com/articles/518288a
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
I have to admit I find significant amusement in the people who insist people "wake up" that have no end of criticism for those they accuse of being "Woke".
Makes one wonder what else is in front of their faces they are completely missing.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
A locus of every perversion of Christianity - and he's not the only one.
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Najah P Tamargo
Minister Najah Tamargo USA
MAY HE RIPurgatory.....if purgatory will have him!
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Douglas Robert Spindler
@Najah P Tamargo I doubt purgatory will have him.
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Geoffrey C. Olive
Good riddance to bad rubbish!💩💩💩
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Rev. Kev
Even if I forget everything else this guy said and did, the fact that he was a force behind making televangelism what it is today makes him an awful human being. Televangelists are just money-sucking black holes. I've never seen one that didn't remind me of a used car salesman or a low-rent personal injury attorney.
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Joseph Bourgeois
Perfect discription. Robinson was a Fake Christian. I believe Pat is receiving his Just Rewards as he Burns in Hell 🔥
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Michael Burton
Best legacies for this individual, would be to forget him an ything he preached
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Maximillian Martin
ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! He was and always will be trash!!
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Echo
So much anger at this man from taking old ladies last dollars to hating LGBTQIA+ individuals. God's message did not come out of his lips, but profit like a devil. May he join the devil he served.
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J. K. Ivey
Robinson flew a group of employees to my mothers small town home, where she was hotboxed into signing over a $1,000,000+ dollar inheritance to the 700 Club. My 80 year old mother now lives hand to mouth in a dilapidated trailer. Robinson lives in a cell in the depths of hell.
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James Riggle-Johnson
I think Pat is in the top 5 of people who ruined christianity. I hope heavens gatekeepers are drag queens that ***** slap this evil man into hell. Too much?
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Not enough.
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Mr Rifle, you took the words right out of my mouth . And by the way, sir "Happy Pride month"! [As strange as it seems to me, the Pride festival here in Galveston won't be until the first weekend in September, instead of in June.] Furthermore, I hope Pat Robertson's legacy is buried with him, and soon forgotten. [I've heard that Pat & Ben were in a secret gay relationship throughout all those years.]
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James Riggle-Johnson
Lol! That wouldn't suprise me. It's always those who protest too much.
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Daniel-David
Who are the other 4 and who are the runners-up?
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The Bible has a large proportion of its content devoted to warning of and defining false prophets. One has to look at their fruits. The ones I see here are money schemes and power.