Is there widespread “anti-Christian bias” in the federal government? President Trump apparently believes so, and the White House is establishing a task force and anonymous tip line to unearth the suspected "perpetrators."
Last week, an internal cable bearing Secretary of State Marco Rubio’s name was sent to state department employees and U.S. embassies announcing the task force, which will hunt down “anti-religious bias during the last presidential administration.” The task force was mandated by an executive order signed by President Trump in February.
Many Christians cheered on the announcement, hopeful to end what they see as broad government persecution against their faith during the Biden era. However, others feel this is a solution in search of a problem – and they fear the initiative will be selectively weaponized against LGBTQ+ state employees and critics of Christian nationalism.
Tipping Off the Task Force
The message from Washington urges State Department employees to submit reports against any colleagues they suspect have contributed to the anti-Christian bias.
Reports will be made via a tip line to allow those leveling accusations to remain anonymous. “Reports should be as detailed as possible, including names, dates, locations (e.g. post or domestic office where the incident occurred,” the cable reads.
Employees within the department were reportedly shocked. “It’s very ‘Handmaid’s Tale'-esque,” said one State Department official.
How Do They Define Bias?
When the memo was first reported on by Politico earlier this month, one question was on everyone’s mind: What constitutes “anti-Christian bias”? The memo outlines a few details, but was often light on particulars – though critics say it’s not hard to read between the lines.
While there were some vague and broad definitions of anti-Christian bias (“mistreatment for expressing one’s sincerely held religious beliefs in the workplace”), the specifics often narrowed in on employees who may have been chastised or punished for expressing disapproval of the LGBTQ+ community.
“Mistreatment for opposing displays of flags, banners or other paraphernalia” is one of the examples of anti-Christian bias the memo specifically mentions, a likely reference to pro-LGBTQ+ Pride flags flown at embassies or hung in employee offices.
“Policies related to preferred personal pronouns” were also highlighted as an example of anti-Christian bias, again a clear allusion to nonbinary and trans people.
Under the new memo, what was once official state department policy could also be viewed as anti-Christian. “Mistreatment for refusing to participate in events or activities that promoted themes inconsistent with or hostile to one’s religious beliefs” is also listed, which could refer to inclusivity initiatives under the prior administration.
Any employee who faced “discrimination, harassment, exclusion, disciplinary action, adverse security clearance determinations, or any other adverse action” due to these reasons is encouraged to report the offenders on the anonymous tipline.
Exposing Discrimination?
Backlash against the task force quickly spread online, but there was one group thrilled with the announcement: evangelical Christians, who allege that they endured massive religious persecution during the Biden administration – and they’re ready to bring it all to light.
“Anti-Christian bias has been incredibly widespread at the federal level all throughout the last four years,” said Alliance Defending Freedom (ADF) senior VP Ryan Bangert. ADF CEO Kristen Waggoner wrote, “this order is important because it exposes the Biden administration’s deliberate targeting of Christian beliefs through discriminatory policies – beliefs shared by many other religions. No one should be threatened or harassed for publicly expressing or living out their faith.”
How Far Does This Go?
Critics argue that not only is it ridiculous to assert that a group constituting two-thirds of the U.S. population is facing religious persecution, but also that the memo was written so vaguely that even the most benign criticism of Christian nationalism could be classified as anti-Christian bias.
“[The task force] will weaponize a narrow understanding of religious freedom to legitimize discrimination against marginalized groups like the LGBTQ community,” wrote the Interfaith Alliance, which combats religious influence in the US government.
“What exactly qualifies as ‘anti-Christian bias’ in this context?” pondered Freedom From Religion Co-President Dan Barker. “Displaying a rainbow flag? Saying ‘Happy Holidays’? Upholding science-based public health policy? This directive isn’t about fairness or equity – it’s about enforcing a Christian nationalist agenda.”
What do you think? Was there widespread bias against Christianity in the federal government over the last four years? And how does one define "anti-Christian bias" in the first place?
111 comments
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William Morehead
If our government is trying to be free from religious bias then Christians deserve the same protections under the law as any other faith or lack thereof. I know people don't like to hear it but this was a Christian nation when it was founded. However, it is a nation of the majority, by the majority, and fir the majority and Christians are not the majority anymore. With those true to the faith a minority of the minority. Why then is it OK for the minority to be so scrutinized? If it were the LBQT community who were being protected here and not Christians. Then the Christians would still be the "bad" guys...
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William Morehead
If our government is trying to be free from religious bias then Christians deserve the same protections under the law as any other faith or lack thereof. I know people don't like to hear it but this was a Christian nation when it was founded. However, it is a nation of the majority, by the majority, and fir the majority and Christians are not the majority anymore. With those true to the faith a minority of the minority. Why then is it OK for the minority to be so scrutinized? If it were the LBQT community who were being protected here and not Christians. Then the Christians would still be the "bad" guys...
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William Morehead
If our government is trying to be free from religious bias then Christians deserve the same protections under the law as any other faith or lack thereof. I know people don't like to hear it but this was a Christian nation when it was founded. However, it is a nation of the majority, by the majority, and fir the majority and Christians are not the majority anymore. With those true to the faith a minority of the minority. Why then is it OK for the minority to be so scrutinized? If it were the LBQT community who were being protected here and not Christians. Then the Christians would still be the "bad" guys...
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Sarah Jane Bates
This reeks of ‘witch hunt’!!!
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Henry Buehler
United States Institute of Peace USIP was established in 1984 by congressional legislation signed into law by President Ronald Reagan On March 28, the Trump administration fired over 200 USIP staffers, most of the remaining employees. The Trump administration appointed DOGE staffer Nate Cavanaugh as USIP president. Cavanaugh transferred ownership of the headquarters building to the General Services Administration.
The Millennium Challenge Corporation — long seen as a bipartisan darling — may be the next U.S. foreign aid agency to fall under President Donald Trump’s ax. The agency, created under former President George W. Bush and known for rigorous grant standards and a scorecard-based eligibility system, has disbursed nearly $17 billion to 47 countries over the past two decades. With an annual budget around $900 million, it’s been a quiet workhorse — one that also doubled as a tool to counter China’s influence.
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Donald G Magel
Trump is the anti-christ, descending on the escalator and being declared the chosen one by the Right. He is working hard to bring on our end times.
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Rev. B.D. Rees
The Fathers of our Country specifically made our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and our Declaration of Independence to be "SECULAR" documents. Our Government was made whole through a Secular congress. The idea of God didn't even enter the scheme of things until 1957! Unfortunately, Those men and women in our Government who have the half baked notion that God is the head of our Nation are under the delution that their Religion and their Religion alone is the basis for their Bigotry, Predjudeses, and petty fears. Hate will always foster Hate, Fear, and discrimination. Those who wallow in this self induced cult, need their hate fed, for once Hate is started it forever needs feeding, or it dies on the vine and withers away. They must have some vindication they are right in thier petty bigotries. Waking up to Reality is going to be quite an eye opener when they realize that the world doesn't revolve around them!!
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Gary Greenwood
We are and have always been Christian Nation!
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Paul Andrew Breda
Wrong. And silly
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Iden Charles Siegbert Hill
“Christian love is not a concentric expansion of interests that little by little extend to other persons and groups. In other words: the human person is not a mere individual, relatively expansive, with some philanthropic feelings!” Pope Francis I
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Rev Ned
So the Anti-Christ thinks there’s an anti-Christian movement?!? 🤣 Maybe, if the Christofascists dropped the fascist bit and started following the teachings of Jesus, just maybe, true followers of Jesus’ teachings would be nicer to them.
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Walter Abington
Gott mit uns.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Does this include Christian denominations that openly accept the LGBTQIA+ communities through "Open and Affirming (ONA) initiatives, like the UCC and MCC? What about Christian denominations who don't support the trinity, or even leave open the existence of alternate gods, like UU and ULC? Somehow I doubt it. Somehow I think an open display of anything Pride related would be considered "Anti-Christian." Somehow I think that someone who is offended by pro-life (especially those who only mean it in the form of the "unborn") stances would also be considered "Anti-Chiristian" along with those that preach welcome of the stranger, and helping the poor get back on their feet.
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Ari Joseph Bertine
Everything that limits freedom in America comes from the legislation of Christian ideas into law. The government has been smothering pro-Christian for a very long time, making it difficult for non-Christians to actually have equal rights. This nonsense is the beginning of Christian Sharia law. Why do they even bother to pretend otherwise? It's as plain as day, none of us are fooled.
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James Bullard
Not all, but many sects of Christianity feel they have a God ordained duty to proselitize and because Christians outnumber other religions in the US they believe that gives them the right to use the government as a tool for spreading their beliefs. It was exactly that belief the inspired the founders (not just Jefferson who was in France during the Constitutional Convention) to include the prohibition of government "establishing" any religion, not just Christianity. The US was intended to have a purely secular government that neither promoted or prohibited any religion.
Failure to accept your religion by others is not discrimination against your religion. It is freedom of conscience and freedom was what the founders were seeking. They had fought a war for independence from not just England, but heirachical society structure of 'the old world' in which land was owned by the aristocracy, and the people were tenants/employees of the various lords who commanded their religion because the religion supported the "devine right" of the artocracy to rule. The founders' intention was to establish rule of the people, by the people.The Constitution begins "We the people" because that is where they wanted the power to rest, not with aristocrats or religious leaders.
Religion, properly practiced, is a purely private matter. Jesus own teachings called on his followers to go into their closet and pray privately, admonishing them that those who pray publicly have their reward. Such prayer is is 'performative', an act to impress others. Your relationship to God, however you concieve the power behind the universe, should be a private one, not a public display. Our government has no role whatsoever in promoting your religion and failing to participate in promoting your religions is not discrimantating against it.
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Cynthia Elizabeth Peters
Shouldn't an individual be a Christian before rooting out "Anti-Christian Bias" - how will it be determined if a person has anti-Christian bias. You don't have to go around telling folks you are Christian - they can determine by your Works! To be honest - Most politicians don't appear to be true Christians according to the fruits of their labor - talking about Christ but not living according to His Words or actions. I will ALWAYS trust God -Love will win over Hate!
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Neil Robert Marsh
Christianity has long enjoyed being the assumed default religion of the United States in spite of the Constitutional prohibition of officially established religions. Many Christians seem to be unable to discern the difference between being made to give up long held privilege and being persecuted. That we have a Mammon worshipper in the Oval Office who is always willing to tell you it's okay to feel sorry for yourself in order to secure your secular political support adds to this false perception.
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Steven Ferrell
It is obvious that especially the last 4 years, that Washington had an anti-Christian agenda. They pushed agendas that go totally against the Scriptures and against Christian values and tried to FORCE people to follow and submit to those.
Many mistake separation of church and state. It says separation of church from state meaning the government cannot enforce rules against the church. It does not mean the church cannot voice concerns about policies that go against the church.
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Rev Samantha Counihan
he dont have a task force, hes a business man in germany, hes sexist against cis women and trans women, and being non christian and believing in some other religion is not anti christian, im not christian im a Wiccan, am i anti christian ? no, freedom of religion includes everyones, and we dont need a nazi dictator offspring from hitler to discriminate
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
Well, looks like I won’t be working in a government position, huh?
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Henry Buehler
Leonides of Alexandia was martyred during the persecution of the Roman emperor Septimius Severus in the year 202 AD. Condemned to death by the Egyptian prefect Lactus, he was beheaded, and his property seized. Leonides catechized his children well. Origen of Alexandia attempted to follow his father in martyrdom, but he was detained by his mother - it is said that she hid his clothes so that Origen could not leave the house.
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Rev. Robert
To my Brethren. I believe we need to Church And State apart. But that is easier said then done. Yes government is for the people not just these people. I have started a new ministry with just a few partners. My ministry is open and based on the Do the Right Thing policy that right things is for the greater good of all along with God makes no mistakes. A homosexual is still one of God's creations. If I am a true Holy Bible Practitioner then as in the foot steps of Jesus Christ Himself I shall not judge them nor forsake them. In my opinion we do not need to create a problem with spies amongst the workers causing dissention amongst the rank and file. For us older generation this brings back the McCarthy days of the Red Hunt. Remember it takes NO Proof to support a Lie but a Millions of Truths to Defend against it. I Do Not Support Disunification and or any methods there for. We need Universal Unification Education We are All God's Children in the Flesh . In closing I hope my sister and brother Clergy Do Not Use our Spiritual Position for the benefit of Political Gain. Respectfully, Rev. Robert Jordan Jordan Ministries of Estill SC. 8436053327 Go in the Peace of the Lord
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Rev. BH
"Together, Catholicism and Protestantism (with major traditions including Adventism, Anabaptism, Anglicanism, Baptists, Lutheranism, Methodism, Moravianism, Pentecostalism, Plymouth Brethren, Quakerism, Reformed, and Waldensianism) compose Western Christianity." Wiki.
Do you think Trump's definition of good American Christians includes all these denominations? Do you think he's even heard of all these denominations? I suspect his personal definition only includes Christian Nationalists, and in time these aforementioned lesser known Christian denominations will be subject to his scrutiny and culling. Be sure, in time none are safe.
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Minister for the Kingdom
Minister for the Kingdom, Ralph Krebbs The conversation in this segment,. I cannot but, speak love to all peoples. I can only help those peoples who wish to know and then find the truth and will be saved from their sins. This is proper in finding a way to the Kingdom and be with the Lord. I do believe Romans 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. Let us ponder these words for meaning and comfort to those who are of the called, Christian. 36 As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long, we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors threw him that loved us. Rm 8:37. I love you all
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John P Maher
WHO is MORE ANTI CHRIST / CHRISTIAN than TURD tRUMP ???
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James Riggle-Johnson
I’ve got a few questions. Are Christians in the State Department being dragged away from their lunch prayers? Forced to hide their Bibles or take down crosses from their desks? Told they can't go to church on Sunday?
Or is it more likely that someone saw a rainbow flag on a coworker’s desk and muttered, “You’re going to hell, f****t”? Maybe they complained about a Muslim coworker praying and were told—rightfully—to mind their own business. Or they pushed their faith by declaring everyone around them is damned without Jesus.
Let’s be real—this task force isn’t about protecting religious freedom. It’s about making sure only certain Christians get to define what “freedom” means and punishing anyone who doesn’t fit their mold.
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Henry Buehler
Lauren Boebart proclaiming, when Fang doorsteps her in D.C., that “There are only two nations built to honor God: Israel and the U.S.A.,” or Ralph Drollinger, who ran the weekly White House Bible Study Group during the Trump administration, claiming the times are currently “alive with demonic powers once hidden.” Fang gets clarification on what those demons are, exactly: “The homosexual movement, the transgender [sic] back in our military, the abortion issue.” But a crusade against progressive social ideals is to be expected from the extreme Christian right. (“Crusade” being a good example of a term that before might have been merely a colorful euphemism, but after “Praying For Armageddon” starts to be suspicious, a potential fundamentalist dogwhistle embedded in plain sight.) What is so much more frightening is how insidiously they are influencing geopolitics, specifically as it pertains to Israel, in order to create the conditions that favor Armageddon (predicted to occur on a large wide plain near Meggido, in the north of the country). Recent developments, such as Trump’s installation of a U.S. military base in Israel, are implied to be part of this master plan, and have certainly escalated tensions in the region. Footage of devastating airstrikes on Palestinian civilian dwellings proves that when you believe your mission is divine, you have no need to be humane.
Televangelist Pastor Robert Jeffress, a regular pundit for Fox News and head of one the nation’s largest parachurches, is one of Fang’s most fascinating interviews, mostly because of the serene, avuncular manner in which he assures us that “the end of the world is nothing to fear.” For those us averse to the idea, however, “Praying for Armageddon” is a compelling, sobering Revelation all its own, revealing the hitherto unimagined scale of a type of political insanity that would entrust the future to people who don’t want there to be a future at all.
Veterans and Reservists Rally to End Gaza Conflict When veterans from the air force went out in open protest, Israel's military struck back and kicked them out. Now, thousands more reservists, veterans, and civilians are demanding that the war in Gaza come to an end. The military leadership is facing a dilemma, according to Eran Duvdevani, who got 2,500 former paratroopers to sign a protest letter:
If they continue to dismiss the pilots, how will it be with all the others who signed the letters? Should they also be dismissed from service?
Extreme influence Benjamin Netanyahu's government, which stands and falls with ultra-nationalist support parties, is reported to have tightened an ideological grip on a military that has long served as a unifying force in Israeli society.
About 40 percent of all newly graduated officers come from orthodox and nationalist minority groups, says military historian Yoram Peri to The New Yorker.
Netanyahu's reshuffles in the military leadership follow the same pattern, according to Peri:
A professional, secular army is not their goal. Nor is a secular democratic society.
“It’s crystal clear that the renewal of the war is for political reasons and not for security reasons,” Guy Poran, a retired pilot who was one of the initiators of the air force letter, told The Associated Press.
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John Alex Paxson
These posted replies only enforce the fact that we are all still divided.
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James Riggle-Johnson
I think the people dividing us are those claiming Christians are being persecuted. They keep saying efforts to recognize marginalized groups are the cause of division. The only group they’re willing to talk about is the same group saying they’re being persecuted, Christian nationalists. Why do they want to change how we discuss history? I never felt guilty learning about slavery as a child. Yes, we are even more divided than before.
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Lisbeth Kieran Bushey
I bet they'll still claim it's not anti-Christian bias if they decide to fire a Quaker who doesn't stand for the Pledge of Allegiance.
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Neil Patrick Hines
John Adams stated that we are not a Christian nation, as did many others. White Christian Nationalism is a dangerous doctrine. .
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Michael Arthur Lueras
Does Donald Trump self-identify as a Born Again Christian? Why not? Satan can masquerade as an Angel of Light. Does Donald Trump pray? Why not? Satan asked Allah for a Reprieve until An Appointed Day - asking God for something IS prayer - and got it. But Jesus once said, "There are those who say that they are of Me but they are not of Me." (Matthew 7:21-23) And consider this from Isaiah 29:13: "These people come near to me with their mouths and honor me with their lips but their hearts are far from me."
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James Riggle-Johnson
If it served his own interests, tRump would definately claim to be born-again or pretend to pray. Was he even baptized as a child?
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Lionheart
I wonder if Jesus every really said any of those things that people like to quote from that book? 🤷
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Thom
Displaying a rainbow flag? Saying ‘Happy Holidays’? Upholding science-based public health policy? This directive isn’t about fairness or equity – it’s about enforcing a Christian nationalist agenda.”
This is the truth. This countries under and uneducated citizens think we are a "White Christian Nation"! Surprise, we aren't. This is about the fear of bigots not having the power they think they are deserved by a prophet who was much darker skinned and Jewish. Two factors today, if he was to return, he may just suffer persecution again. But will those Christians crucifie him on the cross again?
The Mormans, think they are the chosen. The Christians think they are the chosen. How about we all say we're human and we're all chosen to move onto the next dimension we exist in after our physical matter deteriorates. Isn't it much easier to just all be human, than trying to decide who is superior? We're killing our spaceship. It it dies we all die. We're all equal in this aspect.
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Colleen McAllister
As a white evangelical born-again Christian woman I strongly disagree with tRump and his followers. This "task force" is nothing more than a witch hunt against anyone who opposes him or even appears to. There has never been an anti-Christian bias in our government. And honestly tRump is no Christian. The hatred was loosed upon us when he took office the first time. It has only gotten worse. This task force is another nail in the case for democracy. Beware.
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Stacey Owens
The true meaning of Christian in the greek: (Christianos or Christos which means, a follower of the Messiah or anointed one). Some of you here may know, Jesus didn't claim followers as christians, he called them deciples. Yet Paul did say, "if anyone suffered as a christian, Paul said, "for them to glorify God"). Paul wasn't concerned about the term Christian but the believers focuse should be on worshipping God in Christ.
Jesus said, You shaltl worship the Lord thy God, and him only shall you serve. Our worship should only extend to worshipping God not on christianity or on what the world is doing. Correction belongs to God, He does the work. Our relationship is with the Father not of works. The actions of this administration is of God but to show the world He is YWEH. Just like Pharaoh, it was for Gods propose It is written that he would come but as a deceiver. He is called the Beast, he would have the same power as the first beast before him. The first beast was religious and the second beast will honor the first beast in his religion. But his religion, is him. Trump is doing exactly what he sent to do, he wants loyalty. As it is written they will say, who is greater.
Don't be moved by what is taking place in the world. It has been written.
Hebrews 12:1 Therefore, since we are surrounded by such a huge crowd of witnesses to the life of faith, let us strip off every weight that slows us down, especially the sin that so easily trips us up. And let us run with endurance the race God has set before us. 2 We do this by keeping our eyes on Jesus, the champion who initiates and perfects our faith.a Because of the joyb awaiting him, he endured the cross, disregarding its shame. Now he is seated in the place of honor beside God’s throne. 3 Think of all the hostility he endured from sinful people, then you won’t become weary and give up.
YWEH is in control, Amen.
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Thom
A diagnosed, psychopath is who Trump is. A PhD's perspective from her history with him and his actions. He uses your religious pios to gain control of you and others. He was not sent here to do what he's doing.
We're all human. Religion has no place in government due to that fact. All people must be treated equally and loved. Is that so hard. When you place your religious beliefs above treating a fellow human equally, your placing yourself above all. Considering yourself a God. A Christian, as I've witnessed all my life.
He's a $#@@& grabber. Remember? He has sought out relationships for sex with men who want female children as sex toys. I don't think your "God" would approve.
We're heading down a very dark road in this country empowering far too many racist bigots who only want to control the human race as Hitler did. Next we'll be committing genocide.
We will have Christians to blame for it again. As well as power hungry men and women as well as those women bow down to men.
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Henry Buehler
Rubio: All nations should respect Christians’ right to declare Christ is king By Jacob Magid Follow Today, 8:06 pm Share 60 In a statement marking Easter, US Secretary of State Marco Rubio calls on “all nations to respect the right of Christians to declare Christ is King.”
“Easter celebrates the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the king of kings and lord of all nations,” Rubio tweets. Secretary Marco Rubio
@SecRubio · Follow Easter celebrates the resurrection of Jesus Christ, the Son of God, the king of kings and lord of all nations. This Holy Week and Easter, I call upon all nations to respect the right of Christians to declare Christ is King.
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Rev. BH
The technique of "urging State Department employees to submit reports against any colleagues they suspect have contributed to the anti-Christian bias." is also useful to simply screw over people you don't like.
e.g. Joe is a cheapskate who never grabs the lunch check. Let's report him as anti-Christian and get him fired!
or - Charlie takes on all that extra work and makes the rest of us lazy. Let's report him as anti-Christian and get him fired!
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Thom
Amen Revern BH. But these people are the Christians who use their religion to do just those very actions.
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Brien
I am laughing a lot these days. The people have spoken, and the ones that took the time to speak said "Trump". Many people chose not to vote, so you get what you get. I hope that I get to see all of these at the end of his term. Will they be better off? Will all of us be better off? Only time will tell. As far as the constitution goes, violations depend on which set of lawyers wins the debate.
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Thom
Brother Brien, yhe only this better after his first term was my investments. That's not important. The human race, equality, and coexistence is all that we really need. As long as Christians want to be the superior race, by the way, only the Mormons are getting in, in their eyes, we will have nothing but hatred and war on our soils. But I guess we're all use to that. Might ss well have it in our own borders.
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Rev. MichaelRS
This would not be necessary if hate toward or mocking Christianity has not become socially acceptable.
Mostly because if somebody does either of the above they know that, overall, the worst Christians are going to do is TELL them they're going to hell and that they will pray for them to repent before it's too late.
However, if people did it to a religion like Islam there is no shortage of people in that faith that would personally and actively try to facilitate their exit from this Earth and their journey to Hell.
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Keith Ramsey
Except there isn't hate or mocking toward Christianity? There are a lot of people that take anything that doesn't completely support Christianity as hate or mocking. The problem is not that Christians are telling people they are going to Hell. It is that they are trying to FORCE their beliefs onto everyone around them.
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Chris
On top of everything else, these people claiming to be Christians are doing so many things Jesus said not to do while denouncing things Jesus said to do. They've proven they don't care about the Constitution, they don't care about We the People, they don't care about anything but their bank accounts. So what are they going to deem "Anti-Christian"?
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Reverend Paula Copp
The Constitution has essentially been nullified…
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ServantOfJudgement
Hardly so Paula, otherwise I'd have angry guys at my front porch demanding my firearms. You'll need a liberal at the wheel for the abolition of the constitution.
No, I don't think the constitution that the president who showered with his daughter violated has been nullified. Why didn't you say anything when the Hair Sniffer in Chief directly violated the supreme court's ruling? Was it because Cortez the killer and all the other liberal drones applauded and demanded going against the supreme court?
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Lisbeth Kieran Bushey
Here's AG Bondi talking about taking firearms from people without due process after Parkland:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5tP3OLhmA0
What's going to stop them from weaponizing that? Nothing. Not even a 9-0 SC ruling stops them.
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ServantOfJudgement
I'm glad you pointed that out Lisbeth, not a very good feeling to watch.
It always goes towards the cliff no matter who's driving. I knew better than to say only liberals will take guns. They all will no matter the color of the slogan.
Thanks for reminding me of that.
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Reverend Paula Copp
You are, as usual, uninformed and incorrect, SoJ…May whichever god you serve help you…
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ServantOfJudgement
Too hard to accept Ms Copp I know. Truth is bitter as hell
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Keith Ramsey
You'd have to start telling the truth for this statement to have meaning.
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James Riggle-Johnson
SOJ, My mom made me take showers with her and my older sister. It wasn’t to get off on seeing a little kid nude. It was because they didn’t trust me taking a bath alone and didn’t want me to drown myself. You keep talking about this the shower scene, but you fail to mention tRump talking about his daughter and how hot she was, and he would date her. Creepy as that is, I’m fairly certain he was not saying he wanted to sleep with his daughter.
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Keith Ramsey
SoJ, you keep on bringing up things that no one is doing. And no, the last administration didn't threaten to take your guns away, you just wanted to hear him say that so you'd have something more to complain about. Many of those you attack in this statement are also gun owners.
Your comments about showering with the daughter, you are trying to make something out of nothing. MANY parents shower/bath with their children. It is because they are too young to bath by themselves. It could also be to save water. There are many other reasons for it also.
And as James also mention, you completely skip the way that Trump talked about his own daughter on camera.
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Lionheart
Calm down everyone, 🛡️ Saint Donald 🛡️is doing a really good job, assuming the left will allow thieving monsters, rapists, and murderers to be deported and keep them there. 🤭
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Keith Ramsey
ROFL.
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John P Maher
TO QUOTE Mr. GEORGE CARLIN, ITs ALL B S, JUST AS ANYTHING THAT COMEs OUT OF THE MOUTH of TURD tRUMP I D D. JUST LIES and B S !
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Najah P Tamargo
Najah Tamargo-USA
I go back to our Founding Father's. SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE!!! And how can this person call himself a "Christian" when his actions are totally fascist????
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James Mounts
Please explain how one excludes the other. Christianity is a religion. Fascism is a form of government. Fascists can be Christian, and Christians can be fascists. I admire your fervor, but your facts are lacking.
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Chris
A Christian is a follower of the teachings of Jesus. A fascist acts in opposition to those teachings. So while a fascist may claim to be a Christian, that does not in fact make them such. It is not by your words but by your actions we may know you're a Christian.
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James Mounts
And, as for "separation of church and state", please see my previous comment.
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James Riggle-Johnson
It is implied in the 1st amendment. If the government cannot make a law that establishes a religion, that means we cannot be a nation based on any one religion.
Freedom of Religion:
The Establishment Clause prevents the government from establishing an official religion, while the Free Exercise Clause protects individuals' right to practice their religion without government interference, according to the U.S. Courts.
1st Amendment: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;”
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Merlin
The only thing that makes sense, Demonic . John 8:44 KJV. —Ye are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
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ServantOfJudgement
You've just described 95 percent of all government agencies.
Thank God Trump hired Musk and others to take care of your worries. You're not alone, I was worried too but I'm feeling better now.
Demonic indeed, I'm sure you've heard the last president was taking showers with his pre teen daughter.
Good bible quote. Keep em coming.
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Robert James Ruhnke
Trump is demonic and so is musk.
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ServantOfJudgement
Robert, is Biden? He showered with his pre teen daughter. Is that demonic?
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Martin L Stigleman
As with everyone who brings it up, your claim about Biden and his "pre teen" daughter is entirely from your own immature conjectures. Tell me...How old was his "pre teen daughter" when this happened? Funny how the diary didn't give any indication as to her age...it just mentioned the situation where she termed it as "probably inappropriate". I have memories when I was 4 and 5 years old...a few of which were being helped to bathe by my parents. She has publicly stated that there were no sexual occasions attached to that memory and that she is offended that those claims have been made. Also, in the diary, which I'm sure you know nothing beyond "Biden showered with his daughter", the subject being discussed was nothing about revealing a secret with her dad. It was her personal journal dealing with PTSD trauma from an assault and revelations with herself about the sexual situations from her youth, "being sexualized" by her cousin (a female) and having sex at a young age with her friends. You should read the entire story...I think you will find that nearly everything you have learned is wrong.
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Cyril R. VanKeirsbelk
95% of government agencies? Do you have a source for that figure, or are you making it up out of whole cloth? (Rhetorical question, we all know you made it up.)
The government is secular, not demonic. It's a common trope, demonize something to take something normal and make people go against it. Weaksauce.
Musk and Trump have no relationship with our God. Their god is money.
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Wilberta M. Berry
No one could be more anti Christian than the felon who did that infamous photo op holding the Bible upside down and backwards. 🤦🏼♀️ To associate such a blatant phoney with Christianity is an effront to anyone who seriously considers themselves a Christian. I wish the media outlets would stop lingering and reporting on every nonsensical ignorant thing that comes from this current regime. Plus the Constitution says to keep the church and state separate. If the felon can ignore the Constitution, I wish people would start to ignore his ignorance. His agenda and regime doesn't represent the majority of Americans.
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Dennis Chevalier
Amen
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Donald G Magel
Trump is the anti-christ, descending on the escalator and being declared the chosen one by the Right. He is working hard to bring on our end times.
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ServantOfJudgement
Conceptually speaking, all Christians become so with their first step from the quagmire of their former life society encourages towards Jesus and his way of living. None ever make it there in life, they can't. That means every single Christian is an imperfect sinner even unto death. One will easily find fault in any person claiming to be a Christian. Conversely, that same fault will be found in the person who pointed it out in the first place. Jesus said that of us and I've never been able to disprove it.
Holding a bible upside down and backwards is probably the low end of things, definitely not a sin. How do you hold bibles? No matter how you do, it will be upside down and backwards from the right perspective.
I've read it somewhere that the average American citizen commits 3 felonies each month without knowing it. For example, when I trade a dozen eggs for a bag of frozen wild caught fish, it puts my buddy and I at odds with federal law. I do that one quite a bit.
Dearest Wilberta, between the two of us in our lifetime we'll have committed over a thousand felonies.
As far as Americans supporting our President, he did win the popular and electoral vote so there's that hard fact you'll have to somehow come to terms with.
Finally, I don't think you really care about constitutional adherence. No democrat cares about constitutional adherence. Indeed, to the demand and encouragement of most democratic politicians, president Josephine Biden has directly and knowingly violated the constitution against supreme court rulings. Not just once either.
Let's cut the fluffy pillow talk. You're side loves what trump does when you do it. You demand it. Well, ya got it now don't ya?
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Wilberta M. Berry
SOJ; speak for yourself about felonies. You know nothing about me. However, I stand by my statement. The felon is no more a Christian than Satan is. He uses whatever it takes to push peoples buttons and to abuse the system and the rule of law. If he has to fake Christian rhetoric to take advantage of the feeble minded low IQ and information Americans, that what he does. Plus America can not be a "Christian" nation because the Constitution says no religious preference. Maybe you need to read the Constitution. If the founding fathers would have wanted a religious country, it would have been so. None of the founding fathers were Christians. Read your history books, if you have any.
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Thom
Amen Brother Maher
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ServantOfJudgement
Wilberta, if you've ever driven down the road or been driven down the road with an egg in your possession you've probably committed a felony for that alone. It just gets worse from there.
I'm sorry to bring this news to you but there are so many laws that you've absolutely committed several federal crimes. More that 35.
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
I’m guessing that you are trying to justify Trump having committed crimes by saying others have done the same thing ? They have. Some went unpunished, others were.
‘Other people were doing it.’ isn’t a defense.
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Henry Buehler
Over Ruled: The Human Toll of Too Much Law Hardcover – August 6, 2024 by Neil Gorsuch (Author), Janie Nitze (Author) 4.7 4.7 out of 5 stars (525) 4.2 on Goodreads 1,001 ratings See all formats and editions America has always been a nation of laws. But today our laws have grown so vast and reach so deeply into our lives that it’s worth asking: In our reverence for law, have we gone too far?
Over just the last few decades, laws in this nation have exploded in number; they are increasingly complex; and the punishments they carry are increasingly severe. Some of these laws come from our elected representatives, but many now come from agency officials largely insulated from democratic accountability.
In Over Ruled, Neil Gorsuch and Janie Nitze explore these developments and the human toll so much law can carry for ordinary Americans. At its heart, this is a book of stories—about fishermen in Florida, families in Montana, monks in Louisiana, a young Internet entrepreneur in Massachusetts, and many others who have found themselves trapped unexpectedly in a legal maze.
Some law is essential to our lives and our freedoms. But too much law can place those very same freedoms at risk and even undermine respect for law itself. And often those who feel the cost most acutely are those without wealth, power, and status.
Deeply researched and superbly written, Over Ruled is one of the most significant books of the year. It is a must-read for every citizen concerned about the erosion of our constitutional system, and its insights will be key to the preservation of our liberties for generations to come.
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Martin L Stigleman
FYI...No, tRump DID NOT "win the popular and electoral vote". He won THE PRESIDENCY. The number of citizens who didn't vote could have easily swung the decision against him...and if so many people hadn't been dead set against voting for a BLACK WOMAN, he wouldn't have had a chance.
You should also take an actual look at this little thing many of us call REALITY. Society DOES NOT encourage "towards Jesus and his way of living". The reality is that JESUS encouraged people to live AS a society...supporting and loving one another. Jesus never gave a command to follow HIS ways and to tell HIS story. His command was to love one another, to be supportive of the weak and helpless, and to share the world...something that Modern Christianity has selectively chosen to follow...so long as it isn't TOO inconvenient.
"Holding a bible upside down and backwards is probably the low end of things, definitely not a sin."? It has very little to do with the fact of HOW he was holding the bible, so much as the fact that he ordered a chemical weapon attack on protesters to help clear the way to get his picture taken. That much work should earn enough of your attention to at least TRY TO LOOK like you give a damned what you are holding.
As with all your other posts, I'm sure you will refuse to answer questions about your ridiculous claims, but in what case did President Biden (despite your obvious desire to mentally portray him as a woman, for some twisted fantasy you may have), "violated the constitution against supreme court rulings"? I somehow missed the impeachment proceedings for that, and I can't find a source for them anywhere. Will you please elaborate? Well...of course you won't, but I'm tossing you the opportunity anyway.
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Cyril R. VanKeirsbelk
Comparing sin to law is a straw man argument.They have very little to do with each other. The Christian Nationalist movement is not Christian in any way other than name. The values they express are explicitly unchristian. You can't be a Christian and be against the values of Christ. You can be a sinner and a Christian, but to directly oppose Christ and claim to be a Christian is a lie. There is no repentance. They lack love, compassion, humility and forgiveness. Wealth gospel is a perversion of the religion and is directly opposed to the message of Christ.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
The Christians Project 2025 gets another win and this is an unbelievably HUGE win for the Mormons. But as we all know the hatred of the Christians has never been more prevalent in the US than right now. What the Christians are doing IS against the word of God, what we are told in the Bible and the teaching in the Bible and the teaching of Jesus.
Best to become a Mormon now as God loves them the best. The Mormon church is worth over $230 BILLION dollars invested in real estate, stocks, bonds, shopping malls and businesses. Time run out and buy your magic Mormon underwear and start reading the Book of Mormon.
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Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox
I don’t think it’s the REAL Christians that are despised, it’s the christian nationalists that are. They are divisive and disgusting.
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Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox
I don’t think it’s the REAL Christians that are despised, it’s the christian nationalists that are. They are divisive and disgusting.
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ServantOfJudgement
I asked my flavor of AI to educate me about Project 2025. It did.
SOJ analysis: Liberal and Democratic Presidents and lawmakers have already been doing what 2025 says for their own agenda and have been for a very long time.
AI Examples: The Green New Deal, UN Agenda 2030(Formerly Agenda 2021), The Great Reset, Build Back Better, Open Society Foundation.
SOJ Conclusion: The Hive is angry it's getting effective resistance, it's not experienced that yet.
Thank God for logic in the Whitehouse. By garsh it's been a while.
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Robert James Ruhnke
SOJ, just no. You’re wrong.
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Reverend Paula Copp
Once again, SoJ is uninformed and incorrect.
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James Riggle-Johnson
SOJ, did you tell the AI to specifically compare Project 2025 to the democratic party? As I remember, evangelicals wrote it. Democrats did not write it. As I’ve seen, you can get AI to agree with you or see things from your perspective on any subject. It’s all in how you ask the question.
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Cyril R. VanKeirsbelk
SOJ, why don't you just read Project 2025 for yourself? Relying on an AI's interpretation of it seems lazy.
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Henry Buehler
Praying for Armageddon indicates doomsday evangelicals are making considerable headway within America’s armed forces. In the film, investigative journalist Lee Fang interviews retired Col. Lawrence Wilkerson, a former advisor to Gen. Colin Powell, describing Wilkerson as “concerned about the role of evangelical Christian nationalists in the military.”
“Chaplains are increasingly coming from the fundamentalist sects,” Col. Wilkerson points out. “These evangelical fundamentalist chaplains go to some place where basic training graduates and they say beforehand… ‘These troops are at their most vulnerable. They’ve been wracked and trained to death. Go get ‘em.’” Col. Wilkerson adds that at Fort Jackson in Columbia, South Carolina, “they had something like 70 baptisms… at the end of basic training exercises. And they proselytize and get them, take them down and baptize them and then they’re part of the Christian nationalists.”
Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has made common cause with right-wing Christian evangelicals, seeing the alliance as useful to his policies. (Last month, the Biden administration described itself as “deeply troubled” by a reported plan to build “nearly 10,000 settlement units in the West Bank that were previously illegal under Israel law. Like previous administrations, Democratic and Republican, we strongly oppose such unilateral measures, which exacerbate tensions and undermine the prospects for a negotiated two-state solution.”).
Praying for Armageddon devotes significant attention to U.S. policy in Israel and how it’s being influenced by apocalyptic Christian thinking, but Schei makes it clear, “I’m not against Israel. This is not an anti-Israel film. I’m against a lot what is happening in Israel. I do think it’s really important for us as a world community to look at what is happening in Israel, because we do have to protect human rights everywhere.”
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Clay Serenbetz
This is a clear fascist violation of the 1st Amendment's guarantee of Freedom of Religion.
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ServantOfJudgement
I think that's the point mr clay. The government can't pump someone because they're Christian. It's called freedom of religion like you said.
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Chris
Nor can the government "pump" someone for being "Anti-Christian." Nothing is stopping you from being a Christian. What is being hindered is believing anything else.
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Parson Golden
Such a blatant disregard for the US Constitution.
Again for the people in the back, the United States is NOT a Christian nation. We have freedom to pursue whatever religious belief, following any of the hundreds of gods we want, and have freedom FROM religion.
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Alexander Clarke
While we have freedom of religion we also have freedom FROM religion. All religions preach that they are the one and only way to salvation. In reality an omnipresent omniscient God does not need your adherence to man made dogma nor doe HE need your money. Religion is all about control, control of what you say, think, do, and to separate you from your wealth. Religion was an invention of MAN. One can practice religion without faith and one can have faith without a religion. Religion is for weak and ignorant people.
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Peter W McDonough
The creative force that organized the natural laws of the universe probably doesn't give a fig about the foolish beings here on earth and it certainly isn't interested in our foolish religions. We are only of interest to ourselves.
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Peter W McDonough
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ServantOfJudgement
I wish you were here during president Biden's rule when he directly violated the supreme courts ruling to the cheering of elected democratic officials, news casters and blog commentators. I could have heard how important the Constitution was to you then.
Oh? You were here then? Huh, I musta missed your sincere concerns.
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Parson Golden
Please tell me what President Biden did that was akin to declaring that it was necessary to “hunt down Christian bias”?
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Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
Still waiting for a response, huh? Me, too.
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Cynthia L. Clark
President Biden's "rule", LOL.
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Amber Fry
The President isn't restricted from that. Judges are. And if you are going to condemn someone on the left for doing it you may as well do it for those on the right who are a lot more boisterous about it. Y'all kept calling him sleepy, just how celebratory could he be?
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Religion as a Weapon is Wrong
S of J, I always wonder why you are in this space. You are generally angry and political. As an American, the Constitution is important to me. Can we not agree? Freedom of religion is important to me though some would argue if the Founders intended a separation of Church and State. I interpret it to say yes, they did want a separation because the early settlers were escaping the King and the religion in England. Establishing a hotline to tell on your neighbor reminds me of many oppressive regimes, for instance, North Korea. To be placed by the a man that broke every one of the Ten Commandments, it borders on the comical.
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Robert Gagnon
Just trading one fanatical movement for another. But Trump is the furthest thing from any kind of good admired in any belief. That includes the warrior cast.
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James Mounts
Two thirds of the citizens of The United States are Christian. For you people in the front who are always throwing around that we are a democracy, then that makes us a Christian nation. The Constitution forbids me from making any religion a "state" religion, but it also forbids you from hindering me from being Christian. And, before you throw in the "separation of church and state" argument, I defy you to find those words in the Constitution. Thomas Jefferson may have wanted them there, but he was only one vote, and democracy ruled.
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Parson Golden
That would be wrong, and a blatant lie.
No one is hindering you from observing any of the hundreds of Gods that anyone chooses to observe.
No one is hindering you from pretending to be a Christian if that is what you want,
2/3 of the country claiming to be “Christian” does not in fact make us “a Christian nation”. The U.S. is not a Christian nation because of the Constitution and its foundational principles. The First Amendment, prohibits the government from establishing a religion (“Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion”) and that guarantees the free exercise of religion. This creates the separation between church and state. The words do not need to appear in that order to be a fact. Religious Pluralism, the U.S. was founded, in part, as a haven for people fleeing religious persecution. The government was designed to protect individuals’ right to practice any religion, or none at all, without state interference or favoritism.
Lastly, despite your claim the majority doesn’t override The U.S. is a constitutional republic, not a direct democracy. That means the rights of individuals and minorities are protected, even against the will of the majority. Just because a majority of citizens are something doesn’t give them legal authority to make anything the official religion.
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Amber Fry
Who hindered that? Nobody ever said a person cannot be whatever religion they wish. then just need to keep from forcing it on everyone else and it doesn't belong in politics. Biden was a very faithful Catholic and lived his life as such. What he didn't do is legislate to insiste everyone else be Catholic too. He knew the difference. Be what you want. Just stop trying to make laws the are strictly for Christian living.
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Axcella Maria Zed
At one point did Christ call his followers say that his kingdom was of this world? A nation with choices is a land where people have to learn to live together. For a group that has been built on the premise that other beliefs have a need to have ordained leadership we should be mindful of that we are a group of diversity. Forcing someone to do what you think is the right way is only good for controlling others not calling them out
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Religion as a Weapon is Wrong
If you want to go straight to a literal reading of the Constitution and the Amendments, you can check out 2A. It says a well armed militia (an armory) not every man/woman/child carrying weapons everywhere, all the time. I've never understood how we can be an "official" Christian nation. What would you do with the non-Christians? BTW, in oppressive countries, people pretend to love the leader, follow the religion, etc. just to stay alive. Is that who we wish to be? That is as far as freedom as one can get.
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Axcella Maria Zed
At one point did Christ call his followers say that his kingdom was of this world? A nation with choices is a land where people have to learn to live together. For a group that has been built on the premise that other beliefs have a need to have ordained leadership we should be mindful of that we are a group of diversity. Forcing someone to do what you think is the right way is only good for controlling others not calling them out
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Religion as a Weapon is Wrong
If you want to go straight to a literal reading of the Constitution and the Amendments, you can check out 2A. It says a well armed militia (an armory) not every man/woman/child carrying weapons everywhere, all the time. I've never understood how we can be an "official" Christian nation. What would you do with the non-Christians? BTW, in oppressive countries, people pretend to love the leader, follow the religion, etc. just to stay alive. Is that who we wish to be? That is as far as freedom as one can get.
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If our government is trying to be free from religious bias then Christians deserve the same protections under the law as any other faith or lack thereof. I know people don't like to hear it but this was a Christian nation when it was founded. However, it is a nation of the majority, by the majority, and fir the majority and Christians are not the majority anymore. With those true to the faith a minority of the minority. Why then is it OK for the minority to be so scrutinized? If it were the LBQT community who were being protected here and not Christians. Then the Christians would still be the "bad" guys...
I hate to tell you, and this may come as a shock to your Christian sensabilities BUT... This Nation was conceived as a SECULAR Nation. God was only introduced on our money in 1957. That is also the same year they changed the Pledge of Allegience... So your notion of a Christian Nation is already defunct. Sorry about that.