Is former President Donald Trump the second coming of Christ? That’s what a now-removed billboard in Georgia would lead you to believe.
The billboard featured an image of the former president alongside a piece of scripture:
The billboard quickly garnered backlash from individuals across the political and religious spectrum. The reaction was so strong, in fact, that the message was promptly taken down.
Does Jesus Live in Trump Tower?
“Unto us a son is given and the government shall be upon his shoulders” read the billboard, next to an image of a beaming Trump. It is attributed to Romans 8:17.
Many critics were quick to point out that Romans 8:17 says nothing of the sort. That particular line of scripture is from Isaiah 9:6, which reads, “For to us a child is born, to us a son is given, and the government shall be upon his shoulders. And he will be called Wonderful Counselor, Might God, Everlasting Father, Prince of Peace.”
The backlash online was swift. “Very much an Antichrist vibe,” wrote one Twitter user. “Is that from the Book of Griftians?” pondered another.
Many Christians also chimed in, some supporters of President Trump who nevertheless objected to the “sacrilegious” and “blasphemous” comparisons between President Trump and their lord and savior.
The billboard company, Reagan Outdoor Advertising, confirmed that they’d removed the billboard over the weekend following the overwhelmingly negative response.
While the billboard generated plenty of controversy online, it’s worth noting that it’s not the only time a president has been positively compared to Christ. In fact, there’s another president who received many Christly comparisons himself.
Obama as Christ?
Former president Obama elicited similar comparisons during his time in office.
“First of all, give an honor to God and our Lord and Savior Barack Obama,” said actor Jamie Foxx famously quipped back in 2012 – prompting outrage from Christian groups at the time.
And in that very same year, a painting by Michael D’Antuono showing President Obama wearing a crown of thorns and posed as if he were on the cross got the New York-based artist some 4,000 email complaints, “mostly from the irate Christian Right who misinterpreted the art as blasphemy,” he stated.
https://twitter.com/FrEdwardBeck/status/273575218042245120?s=20
Shortly after Obama’s election, actress Susan Sarandon favorably compared Obama’s community organizing past to the work Jesus did. Those Obama-as-Christ comparisons were roundly criticized as false and blasphemous comparisons by faith groups.
While one could argue that such comparisons represent a sincere belief that messianic figures are walking the earth with us, a cynic might suggest that it’s a quick and easy way to get attention.
Meanwhile, students of history caution that elevating a politician to the level of a spiritual messiah has rarely ended well for all involved.
What is your take?
76 comments
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Richard Lee Cornell
I got nails! Who has wood?
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Marius Gabriel Burja
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Stacey Owens
Christ has already returned and it's not Trump. You just don't know him. You hear him but you don't know it's him because of the image you see. Christ is not the bible. As it is written, the letter kills but the spirit give life. He is not the preacher, evangelist, prophet, or teacher. For the kingdom of God is in you, if you believe. Jesus said, no man has heard God's voice. But Jesus said he has declared Him.
No man has the power but God.
Jesus said, he manifested the Fathers name unto the men He gave him and the Holy spirit sanctified it by revealing that he was sent by Him.
So I'm sharing that God it a spirit and they that worship Him must worship Him in spirit and in truth.
The WORD is GOD. Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the word of Christ.
Praise God!
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John P Maher
HOLY crap BATMAN !
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Rev Mark D
Yeah yeah, Stacey. Just look at the great changes all around since he came back. Have some more opium.
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Jeanie G. Hayes
What I would like to know is “Who” paid to have the billboard put up? Everyone is jumping to conclusions here…not getting at the underlying political instigator.
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Michael K. Mac Munn
Who actually paid for the Billboard to be made. Did the Billboard company just put it up themselves, or were they acting on part of a customer. If so who was the customer.
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John P Maher
AND WHEN FOUND that PERSON SHOULD BE BLASTED BY ALL TRUE BELIEVERS IN CHRIST and OR ANY RELIGION, IT IS A MOCKERY in THE FIRST DEGREE, tRUMP is KIN to SATAN and HITLER, A TRUE NAZI and if ANY RELIGION SUPPORTS tRUMP or THIS COMPARISON I and MY ENTIRE FAMILY WANT NONE of THAT RELIGION !
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Michael K. Mac Munn
None of this answers the original question. What are the actual facts. This response gives the person who put up the Billboard exactly what they were looking for, they are wanting to get people emotional and opinionated however that still does not accomplish anything without actual true facts. Let us not be blind sheep so easily directed by others. Perhaps asking more constructive questions and jumping to less opinions and conclusions might take away the power of those trying to do so much misinformation in the world these days.
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Rev Mark D
You got it John, that's the only thing of value to come out of this, putting down the MAGA maggot madness, let's go back to normal when all Republicans did to elections was steal them (like in 2000).
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Charles Jude Platt
A former generation once said. "do not talk of politics or religion." Maybe We should heed that warning Just maybe those guys knew what was best, for us 'children' of God?
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Rev Mark D
Charles Platt: seems to me guys like you are what allowed the Armenian and then, using that as the model, the WWII genocide, and every modern slaughter outright and racist cleansing from Russia to China to Africa to Pol Pot to Central America to the USA and China and every savagery to ethnic minorities and stupid war, inside and outside each country along the way was made possible precisely by you looking away while you accepted all the material goods and safe spaces from their political horrors. You'd better hope when your life is done that wherever you're going there's no rebalancing of the accounts.
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Richard Whitehurst
People are just cruel and mean. Many religions inspire that cruelty. Something tells me we have all been lied to for thousands of years. The church, the government, the media. Meanness and lies. I believe it was Jesus Christ who proved that. It was a warning barely heeded if not misunderstood completely.
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Rev Mark D
Richard: true. However, it also seems like we played our own role to let it happen, and you are saying, like Adam when God threw him out of the Garden, "what are you punishing me for, it was Eve and that snake, I was just standing around minding my own business."
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Charles Jude Platt
Do We alleged Christian's still believe in sin and blasphemy? Beats the hell out of me.
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Rev Mark D
Sure we do Charles...just watch what we do, instead of what we say.
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Cindi
The billboard is so misleading and people don't read what the Bible say, apparently. The King James Version, Romans 8:17' And if children, then heirs; heirs of God, and joint-heirs with Christ; if so be that we suffer with him, that we may be also glorified together. Any version of the Bible doesn't state what the ad says. We are ALL HEIRS. There is NO proclamation that Trump, Obama, or any other president is God!
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Rev. Don
First off, it’s a real stretch to suggest that Obama “elicited similar comparisons during his time in office,” as this article states. Jamie Foxx “quipping” about Obama being “Lord and Savior” was just that – a quip, a quick remark by a comedian intended to be inventive and humorous. Sarandon’s comparison to Obama’s community organizing work to Jesus’ work did not blatantly suggest that Obama was actually the “chosen one,” (as Trump called himself), but spoke only to Obama’s Christian behavior. Claiming one behaves like a Christian is not the same as claiming one is actually Christ returned.
Comments about someone's Christian behavior are far removed from those of supporters who claim Trump is actually chosen by God and is, in fact, a messiah. If one wants to try to justify an assertion that a Biblical persona has returned in the flesh based on a person’s behavior, it would be a more persuasive argument to cite Romans 13:5-10 to claim that Trump, through his haughty words and unchristian behavior, is the Beast mentioned therein and that those who follow him – through deception or choosing to remain ignorant of Trump’s actual behavior – are those whose names will not have been written in the book of life. While his words are designed to deceive Christians, his behavior is blasphemous in and of itself. That is, unless, "Christians" think we need to do unto others before they do unto you; feed only those who look like us; give money only to the privileged and wealthy; use the Bible and Christianity for political gain; take away healthcare from the sick and needy; take advantage of the meek and punish those seeking asylum. The list could go on, but that would take up way too much space here.
One only needs to consider that blasphemy can be enacted via deeds as well as with the spoken word against God. To wit: “The beast was given a mouth uttering haughty and blasphemous words, and it was allowed to exercise authority for forty-two months. 6. It opened its mouth to utter blasphemies against God, blaspheming his name and his dwelling, that is, those who dwell in heaven. 7. Also it was allowed to make war on the saints and to conquer them. It was given authority over every tribe and people and language and nation, 8. and all the inhabitants of the earth will worship it, everyone whose name has not been written from the foundation of the world in the book of life of the Lamb that was slaughtered. Let anyone who has an ear listen: 10. If you are to be taken captive, into captivity you go; if you kill with the sword with the sword you must be killed. Here is a call for the endurance and faith of the saints.”
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David L Huey
can we say Antichrist
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Rev. Dr. G. Waldron
Just another one of the Cult Church of Trump.
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Rev. RJ Levesque Jr
This does NOT compare President Trump to Jesus. They are trying to make a point that they strongly feel President Trump is the savior of our countries government, not souls! Now granted, this was poorly thought out, but do not misread what they are trying to say. If we are going to do that I can bring up thousands of Christian and non-Christian garbage from the Democrats/Communists all day long...
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Victor Marcus Monroe
It's amazing how those who propose such ridiculous comparisons can bring out the haters of the different political spectrum. The question that needs to be asked is does God hate Republicans? Does God hate Democrats? Who does God hate? Who does God love? Human beings are the destructive causes in this world. There is plenty of blame and finger pointing within all of us. We were told by Paul not to separate ourselves because of doctrine yet that's exactly what we did. Now we have hundreds of factions of Christianity that don't even pray together. So before one starts to take the fleck out of another's eye they need to take the log out of their own eye. No one can save themselves. God created all and already owns all. The only thing God has no control over is our love. We either choose to love or choose to hate. Everything happens because of choice. What we choose will be what justice we deserve based on our own thoughts. Jesus put everyone on notice when he said it is not the act of sin but the thought before the act. But that's why Christ came to earth to let us know there is salvation by believing in the words he spoke, which he said will live on forever. We were told when we come to him with great sorrow and give up this life of hatred we would become another creature. Remember what Christ said about leading others away from him. Woe to those that cause my children to fall by the wayside. I too have been caught up with the politics. I pray for forgiveness for that. I am a disabled veteran that knows all too well what hatred feels like. My intimate love for God trumps all things and in doing so allows for my peace of mind and everyday is a blessing in itself no matter how hard today and beyond reaches. May God bless you and yours all the days of your life and may peace always find its way into your lives.
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Charles Jude Platt
Great comment, much to think about. Thanks.
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John Casillo
From the comments i just read.....i would think that a whole lot of folks casting stones...believe they are without sin...yet the beat goes on.....rev john
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John P Maher
HEY REV. JOHN are you of the FAITH of the KING of WHITE SUPREMACY, NAZIs, MAGA, tRUMP, the G O Pigs, WHERE DO YOU STAND ???
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Alexander Clarke
Will someone please explain to me why otherwise intelligent people put their trust and faith in someone as morally bankrupt as Donald Trump?
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John P Maher
IGNORANCE, STUPIDITY, IDIOCY, BRAINDEAD, CLONES of tRUMP, WHAT MORE ???
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Rolland Pitzer
The point is starting to be lost. It’s about the sign. The fact that someone paid for it to get put up indicates that they believe it and due to social media is able to spread like a disease. Unfortunately there are hundreds of thousands probably millions of people who believe that. This is something I truly have not been able to understand. Trump has not done anything for the common man to benefit the underprivileged but has been excellent at fanning bigotry and hate. Is this truly who we are and just waiting for the right person to give us the green light. There isn’t a Christian bone in his body yet the so called evangelicals are selling their souls to his movement. Just look at our senators and representatives that have so lost their morals to follow. I guess in a perverse way trump is a god to them I have lost friends over this good people but once they enter the rabbit hole they get lost. All a person has to do is look at what Jesus taught look at trumps actions and there you are but it’s like a version of Star Wars of where you are being convinced what you saw and heard didn’t really happen. Crazy!! It’s good to see that several of you can’t understand it either. Now about god. I know for certain of the existence. In 1984 my youngest son was killed. Six months before his death I was shown a series of dreams each night for a week of his upcoming death. I was more than a dream it was too real I took every precaution to prevent it but it still happened almost identical to the dreams. I know that he is still with me every day and has proven that time and time again but that is a story in itself. Yes the pain of not holding him in our arms is still there but the roles have reversed and he and god hold us in theirs. Believe me god does exist and trump certainly isn’t it
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Tom Boocher
Jesus did speak of those who would give up their life for another. I believe President Trump did just that. Gave up an unimaginable lifestyle to serve America. It was a good work. However, Isa 9:6 is not about President Trump. It is about Jesus. And it describes who Jesus was to be from a patriarchal perspective using a "naming" or "surnaming".
For unto us a child is BORN (Son of Man), unto us a son is GIVEN (Son of God): and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called (ie/"and he shall be the SON of:)
SON of Wonderful, SON of Counsellor, SON of The mighty God, SON of The everlasting Father, SON of The Prince (Sovereign) of Peace.
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David Arthur Lewis
Trumpty Dumpty does seem to fit the description of the Antichrist.
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Stephen Kennedy
I wish Christians would actually read the Gospels.
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Lionheart
If they truly did they would see how ridiculous and illogical they all are, as I did, so hopefully they will one day.
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David Arthur Lewis
Yes, especially the Gospel of Matthew. It contains all of Jesus' teachings, therefore everything you need to know to be a Christ-follower.
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Lionheart
Well, how does anyone know what Jesus really said (that’s if the biblical Jesus was real) being as those that wrote about him never knew him, and were writing from tales, stories, rumours, anecdotes etc decades later. Who was it, that wasn’t there, that wrote in fine detail about the said Jesus being on his own in the Garden of Gethsemane bleeding from every pore?
Clearly, there is much to be desired about anything that is written in the bible. You’ll be saying next you believe in a talking ass, and snake. Oh my gosh! You don’t do you? Please don’t tell me you do 😱
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Gwendolyn Lord
An adulterous racist criminal is not a parallel to Jesus.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
How do you know?
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John P Maher
Mr. R. SPINDLER { dumbass } NOBODY KNOWs ANYTHING BUTT if YOU RESPECT, RESPECT the BIBLE or ANY and ALL HEALTHY SPIRITUAL TEACHINGs and OR WRITINGs YOU DO NOT BLASPHEME SUCH with A COMPARISON to this CREATURE of NAZI HELL tRUMP PUKE !
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Douglas Robert Spindler
John P Maher why do you resort to name calling and insults rather than having an intelligent conversation? Is this what the Bible teaches you to do? Insult your neighbor and fellow man? It appears you have no respect for the Bible and what it's teaching. It attitudes like yours which is driving young people away from the Christian religion.
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John P Maher
SPINDLER its RELIGION as YOURS is CHASING DECENT FOLKs CHRISTIANs from YOUR RELIGION !
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Douglas Robert Spindler
There you go again yelling with the microaggressions in the name of religion. The Bible is filled with hate, killing, insist, and destruction. Young people are seeing it for the hateful book it is. This is all stuff young people today do not want to be part of. Did you see the news headline last week where Christian priest have brutally rapped another 330,000 children in the name of God. Why would you want to be part of a religion which allows little children to be rapped. You are right, this is why decent folks are becoming non-religious, they don't want to be rapped in the name of God.
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Chaplain Shawn
No man other than Jesus can be Christ. The Messiah already lived establishing His low Christology. Jesus' high Christology was satisfied by the resurrection. The low and high Christology establishes Jesus' divinity. Therefore, Obama and Trump are not Christs. Their divinity has not and will not be established on earth. Obama is a Muslim, and Muslim's do not hold Jesus as divine. Mohammad is, and no man can claim to be Mohammad because he would be reincarnated as Mohammad himself. Trump is a Christian, but exists 2,000 plus years after Jesus. Mohammad was 600 or so years after Jesus. For those who love logic and math, there is not only a timeline issue but a mathematical issue.
Secular Humanism promotes a worldview without any form of a god, according to the late Dr. Paul Kurtz. A god or gods are incomprehensible and unintelligible. Kurtz's view applies to pantheism, polytheism, Pagan gods/goddesses, Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, etc. According to Kurtz all religions should be abolished. If replaced, the replacement would be secular. Therefore, no God, no Christ, no Holy Spirit, no angels or hierarchy of angels, no Satan, no demons, no ghosts/spirits roaming the earth, no metaphysical, and no paranormal. Kurtz closed the door on all these topics. There is no discussion. Read for yourself in What is Secular Humanism? by Paul Kurtz, 2007, Prometheus Books. To learn more about Pantheism, as Irish freethinker John Toland meant it, checkout https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pantheism/. The two views, Secular Humanism & Pantheism, are incompatible, self-refuting, and exist together as mere contradiction.
Respectfully,
Minister Shawn, MA Apologetics
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Gwendolyn Lord
Obama is not Muslim. Ger into looking at facts, reality, and truth.
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Chaplain Shawn
I stand corrected. So, that is all you could find wrong? J have quoted my sources. Not many who post here do. I should get some credit for that, right? I mean most could be spewing forth conjecture and opinionated unsubstantiated babble.
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Stephen Kennedy
No, he is not a Muslim, and considering his wealth, he is a social Christian.
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Krystina S.
Much of what you say is just bloviating. And making assumptions, e.g. some sects of Christianity are the ONLY true belief. You are condescending and lack the ability to reason. (These "you" statements are to demonstrate that it is not appropriate to attack the beliefs of others based on your belief system, as if you are attacking based on reason.) As someone who follows the Jesus Way, not necessarily the High Christology thereof (as per your definition,) your beliefs do not even fit into the Low Christology of Jesus. You dig? The life and teachings of Jesus. Of course, your blank statements about Obama being a Muslim (he is NOT, he is a practicing Christian) and Trump being a Christian (he does NOT appear to be, based on his actions and his words) show you to be just a POLITICALLY PERVERSE PseudoChristian. As I call it, a ChristoFascist. So it appears to me. It doesn't feel great to have people question the veracity of your faith, does it? Even though I never questioned the veracity of your belief system, Christianity. Just your personal practice thereof. Of course no other human is either Christ or Muhammad (not that Obama is Muslim, just noting your inane Mansplaining of "to be" vs. "to be like.") I can't write any more, breaking into fits of laughter.
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Chaplain Shawn
Greetings All,
ULC picked a topic unworthy of comment. Apparently, the ULC rejects the Christian worldview like the secular on this site. First, we have a multitude of nonbelievers of the Christian worldview explaining what Christianity is, which is hilarious because even the late Dr. Kurtz wanted to replace Christianity/ theism with a secular version. Remove God from everything and compromise a brilliant work of literature (Holy Bible) with the trash of the modern day, totally appalling. Christians are not working behind the scenes to replace the Danish work of art (Beowulf) with a much more appropriate Christian version. The secular are forcing their idiotic views down the throats of theists, and offer any who pay $29.95 or whatever price an ordination. The ordination mill does not prepare the purchasers for chaplaincy or ministry. Comments here are usually insulting to Christians, and Christians, on this site, are once again thrown to lions to die for having a belief in something the secular will never understand but ridicule. Shame, shame on them! If that is what it means to be secular, to give up research into the unknown field of the metaphysical, paranormal, theological; then I am happy to remain a logical, philosophical, and true freethinker as a Christian theist.
Additionally, a new term Secular Humanism Pantheist (SHP) has now entered the scene. Again, Christianity has not been abrogated, nor does the biblical narrative need to redefine itself. Apparently, that is not so with the work of the late Dr. Paul Kurtz, the father of Secular Humanism. His work What is Secular Humanism? clearly rejects any idea of God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, the hierarchy of angels, Satan, demons, the metaphysical, and paranormal. Therefore, Kurtz would say SHP undermines true Secular Humanism. Many gods or one god will have no room in secular society. Any attempt to replace any religion with a secular version will still reject god or gods. Kurtz's view on God is that he is incomprehensible and unintelligible. SHP is a contradiction of its core terms and is a self-refuting vain philosophy. In the same manner, Obama and Trump could never be Christ. Neither have a low or high Christology establishing their divinity. So much ignorance, and not enough logical thought, which is surprising. Atheists, humanists, and the secular are supposed to be so much better as people than theists. Yet, they lack a cogent argument (Plantinga, 2015).
Pantheism was fathered by Irish freethinker John Toland. The Stanford Encyclopedia of Philosophy on Pantheism states, "all that history has preserved for us are second-hand reports of attributed doctrines, any reconstruction of which is too conjectural to provide much by way of philosophical illumination" (https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pantheism/). "At its most general, pantheism may be understood positively as the view that God is identical with the cosmos, the view that there exists nothing which is outside of God, or else negatively as the rejection of any view that considers God as distinct from the universe" (https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/pantheism/). Holy smokes! If SHP is way, the light, and the truth; I am having a difficult time seeing past the contradiction of terms. The secular offer some very intelligent people, but sometimes really smart people can be pretty dumb at times.
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Mark Hannon
Former President Donald J. Trump is on record as having not needed to ask for forgiveness for anything so I imagine that ranks him right up there with Christ.
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Bryan Bauman
Only a demonrat would put up a billboard like then remove it just to have some brain dead zombie pit it on social media for a discussion. It should take me to have to point that out.
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Lawrence Albert Taylor II
I'm sorry if any politician did their job as promised this country would be a in a much better place than it is now. For anyone to compare themselves to Jesus or God should go seek some professional help. Would God or Jesus have allowed this pandemic to take more lives than the plague ? What caused this pandemic was the ignorance of the people that run this country our own politicians and their medical advisors.
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Rev Mark D
Well Lawrence you must know that anybody comparing themselves to Christ is unlikely to think he needs professional help with anything really.
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Lionheart
Yes indeed, who on earth would want to compare themselves with a genocidal, infanticidal, jealous, maniacal God, that also has huge anger management issues? Fortunately, there is no real evidence any god is real.
Looking at "results" during a presidency, so far, Trump is streets ahead of Traitor Joe who obviously has no idea how to secure the border, or adequately leave a theater of warfare without losing armament assets, and lives. As for the total mismanagement of oil reserves.......how are the gasoline prices doing in your area?
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Tom Thackrey
Trump walks the earth (or at least the golf links) as a man otherwise he exhibits none of Christ's qualities. He has no compassion or empathy, he lies, cheats and steals. He mistreats his children, wives and mistresses. He pays for sex. He adores dictators and ignores scholars. He ridicules the handicapped and defames his opponents.
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Rev Mark D
Best comment so far.
Trump (who is the symbol and metaphor for all who make him possible and effective, similar to that which made Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Bolsinaro, Domino Sugar, etc.etc.etc.)...walks the Earth, up and down in it, also the guy who does that in Job.
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John P Maher
GOD ALMIGHTY, LORD ALMIGHTY, HELP THIS POOR SOUL tRUMP and ALL HIS tRUMPIEs and the G O Pigs, AND M A G A, Q and ANY POOR SOUL WHO PRETENDS to YOUR RELM, GIVE THEM THE BOOT A ONE WAY TICKET to a ROAST with SATAN and MAY THEY ALL BE THE MAIN COURSE, YUMMY !
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Charles Jude Platt
Loved your comment. Amen!
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Rev Mark D
Tastes like chicken, as they say. Though in this case I rather think it would be more like ham.. or spam. Anyway it would be the best use of them to anyone who could stomach it. I'd feed them to my dogs, except I like my dogs.
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John P Maher
AMEN REV. MARK D.
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Jim Wade Anderson
Tom Thackery, you are right on the money. I had two young men on my porch during the 2020 election and one was wearing a MAGA hat and both were carrying Bibles. My first thought was, "Why wear that to preach the Gospel?" They asked if I was saved and if I worshipped the risen Lord Jesus reborn as Donald Trump. I thought I was being punked so I broke into laughter. They were serious. Soon people here were wearing tee shirts and buttons proclaiming 2020 vote Jesus Trump. My town has a church dedicated to him. I feel like I have entered an alternate universe. What is happening?
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Charles Jude Platt
Jesus is and was a 'man of love.' trump however is a 'narcissistic, compulsive liar and a seditious co-conspirator terrorist.' How the hell do we compare the two? We seem to be headed for (or, are in) a psychiatric psychopaths. God bless one and all.
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Shango MasterExorcist, D.D.
The billboard looks very nice. But Trump would probably not enjoy the comparison, and if that is so, it would be polite to take it down. Or add a disclaimer on another billboard. Or even better still, ignore it and remove billboards that are dangerous to health, like advertisements for McDonalds.
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Rev Mark D
Well, Trump wouldn't like the poster because he doesn't like to share the billing and if anybody is even in it the top billing still must go to Donnie.
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Woodrow
Romans 8:14-17 Amplified Bible, Classic Edition
14 For all who are led by the Spirit of God are sons of God.
15 For [the Spirit which] you have now received [is] not a spirit of slavery to put you once more in bondage to fear, but you have received the Spirit of adoption [the Spirit producing sonship] in [the bliss of] which we cry, Abba (Father)! Father!
16 The Spirit Himself [thus] testifies together with our own spirit, [assuring us] that we are children of God.
17 And if we are [His] children, then we are [His] heirs also: heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ [sharing His inheritance with Him]; only we must share His suffering if we are to share His glory
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Rev Mark D
What's your point?
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Rev. Dr. G. Waldron
I think he is trying to say Trump needs to share in the suffering of God’s Son. A good start would be for him to lose every trace of wealth and walk the streets of NYC in rags and humility as many homeless do.
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Woodrow
17 And if we are [His] children, then we are [His] heirs also: heirs of God and fellow heirs with Christ [sharing His inheritance with Him]; only we must share His suffering if we are to share His glory.
The verse was on the billboard.
Rev. Waldron Do you pray for those in power and government?
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John P Maher
YEAH RIGHT, JUST WHERE IS the SIMILARITY, COMPARE tRUMP to WHAT HE is A SON of an ORANGUTAN !
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Donald Richard Starns
Now, now. He produced his birth certificate to prove that he’s not a S.O.O. Be fair. Many people say the document was fake, but I don’t know what to believe. People tell me, “Sir, this is real.” Others may not agree.
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Nicholas J Page
There is only one God and no it's not Trump or anyone God is lord over all of us and it will be only God who will make his second coming.
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Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
“Only one God” — yes, but it’s certainly not the God that Christians are required to accept as being real.
As a ULC Bishop, with a DD, and a,so as a FFRF Celebrant, I can state, that the only known group which is certain that their God, is the one and only God, are the “Secular Humanist Pantheists” to whom, God and nature are merely different aspects of the same thing.
As we SHP’ers (who also happen to be ULC bishops) can prove the existence of nature; the SHP God is proven because the SHP God is synonymous with nature.
The only requirement for SHP'ism, is to adhere to the “laws of nature” which all humans must do, whether they care to do so, or not.
As the Romans considered early Christians to be atheists — because they rejected the Roman Gods — we SHP'ers consider Christians, Jews, Hindus, and Islamists to be atheists, because they refuse to resign themselves to the fact, that God and nature are the same thing.
And may nature take a liking to you; if you respect nature as much as much as you enjoy your favorite meal.
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Rev Mark D
You're quite the comedian. What you say reduces directly to: "God is God because we say he is God; and since we have said it, saying it makes it. Everything is everything because everything is nature and nature is everything." Entirely circular and useful for nothing. If everybody is following the laws of nature because they are part of nature, and nature is everything, then you've actually said nothing, while making doubly sure to let people know how many of your self-created qualifications and adornments you have. What you have done is essentially bloviate, you have simply exhaled. Your logic makes yourself no more significant than any typical grain of sand on any beach. What's the use in that?
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Douglas Robert Spindler
How do you know?
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Rev Mark D
Yes Doug I was going to say that too, but every time I do then the person goes " Oh it's a matter of Faith it's not something you can know, except for me."
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Douglas Robert Spindler
Rev Mark D Why is it Christians are wrong all of the time? Family Radio spent hundreds of millions of dollars advertising Judgement day would be May 21. They said the Bible even guarantees it. What happened? https://www.flickr.com/photos/wiless/5656000344/
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Etha L Moore
Minister Spindler, do you ask that question a lot? Lol, maybe to make people stop and think? Good idea...may I borrow for my lessons,? Etha Moore
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Douglas Robert Spindler
Please use for your lesson. Do you any idea how many times Christians have predicted the exact date for the end of the world? So far, they have been wrong every time. https://laist.com/news/save-the-date-billboard-campaign-re They even say the Bible guarantees the end of the world would be on May 21, 2011.
Christians donated over half a billion dollars to have the End of the World Billboards put it.
And then their are the Christians lead by the preacher Clyde Lott who are trying to end the world with the Red heifer/third temple prophecy. Millions was spent on this project as well. They've failed so far.
And then their are the atheists who threw the "End of the World Day After Party". https://www.mercurynews.com/2011/05/18/oakland-based-family-radio-sees-donations-soar-as-judgment-day-approaches/
Etha you are feel to use any of my material you you lessons.
Any idea why over the centuries Christians fall for the same lies over and over. And even worse, give money.
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It's more like, Trump is the Antichrist!!!!!!