In a recent 7,000 word encyclical entitled Laudate Deum, Pope Francis laid bare his belief that the citizens of the world have not been good stewards of planet earth, sharply pointing his finger at one group in particular: westerners, and their “irresponsible lifestyle.”
Is Pope Francis right? Are we to blame for climate change?
Nearing the Breaking Point
The Pope's message came with an urgent warning: the planet is approaching catastrophe.
“With the passage of time, I have realized that our responses have not been adequate, while the world in which we live is collapsing and may be nearing the breaking point,” Pope Francis wrote, lamenting the lack of progress made since his last major statement on climate change in 2015.
“Some effects of the climate crisis are already irreversible, at least for several hundred years, such as the increase in the global temperature of the oceans, their acidification and the decrease of oxygen,” the pontiff wrote.
“Despite all attempts to deny, conceal, gloss over or relativize the issue, the signs of climate change are here and increasingly evident. No one can ignore the fact that in recent years we have witnessed extreme weather phenomena, frequent periods of unusual heat, drought and other cries of protest.”
Who Is to Blame?
Pope Francis leveled criticism at several groups, primarily wealthy western “elites” and corporations that he says produce emissions at a wildly unsustainable rate.
“Emissions per individual in the United States are about two times greater than those of individuals living in China, and about seven times greater than the average of the poorest countries,” he argued. A “broad change in the irresponsible lifestyle connected with the Western model would have a significant long-term impact.”
He also chastised corporations which endlessly pursue profits at the expense of the planet, lobbying for the reduction of environmental regulations so they can pollute air, land, and water unfettered. Corporations who pursue the “greatest profit possible at minimal cost and in the shortest amount of time” bear a significant portion of the blame, he argued.
Francis even had a rare criticism for the Catholic Church, lamenting “certain dismissive and scarcely reasonable opinions” found at home, “even within the Catholic Church.”
Those Most Impacted
Pope Francis posed the issue of manmade climate change as a social issue, one that impacts the “most vulnerable people, whether at home or around the world."
This group, he points out, is least responsible for contributing to the problem.
“How can we forget that Africa, home to more than half of the world’s poorest people, is responsible for a minimal portion of historic emissions?” he pondered.
But what to do?
In the address, the pontiff called climate change “one of the principal challenges facing society and the global community,” arguing that “the necessary transition towards clean energy sources such as wind and solar energy, and the abandonment of fossil fuels, is not progressing at the necessary speed."
It’s an issue of responsibility, if not for us, he argued, then for our legacy.
What do you make of the pope’s comments?
146 comments
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Emily J Vank Kam
I agree, because if you don't do something about it, it's just gonna get worse and the climate change will just keep getting worse and worse and you do have to do some thing about it in order to make sure that everyone don't have a big issue
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Paul Johnson
What would you suggest they do?
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Dent L. Sweem
Truth be known.. It's probably the Catholic Chuch in cahoots with big business as there is nothing to support "Global Warming"! The Big Daddy of the Largest Chuch getting kickbacks to promote this "Hoaxacaust" upon humanity to slip in a unholy agenda. Watch more blood flow with this alliance! War and more War!
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Donald G Magel
This from a guy who lives in a palace with a ton of servants and henchmen with more gold decorations than trump. He would feel better if we were on collective farms and did not eat so much, or enjoy living the life that Christ allowed us to earn through our work and our democratic government. That way our "'footprint" would be much smaller and he would give up what? I heard once about some "vows of poverty". I did not take one. I'm guessing that he did not either.
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Pastor George Day
Donald G Magel,
Clearly you must live on a different planet. Anyone who has any little knowledge of how Pope Francis lives would laugh at our remarks about his vow of poverty or him living in a big palace.
I suggest you do research and a reality check on where Pope Francis lives and how he lives: the room where he sleeps, the car he uses, the shoes he wears, etc...
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Margaret Mary Jones
Francis should care about my soul, not my coal! China is the worst polluter, we'll never make up for their output. Climate Change, Global warming...it's all BS made up by people that want to control other people!
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Pastor George Day
Margaret Mary Jones,
In the new world you will be there with your body too, and possibly your ‘coal’ as well... not just your soul!
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Jimmy Moon
October 12, 2023
Norwegian Agency: Man-Made CO2 “Not Sufficiently Strong” to Cause “Systematic Changes” in WeatherResearchers John K. Dagsvik and Sigmund H. Moen published the paper this month, and their abstract makes clear that, in their opinion, the supposedly vast amount of CO2 that mankind has pumped into the atmosphere during the industrial age is insignificant when it comes to affecting the world’s temperature.
“Weather and temperatures vary in ways that are difficult to explain and predict precisely. In this article we review data on temperature variations in the past as well possible reasons for these variations,” the study’s abstract begins. “Subsequently, we review key properties of global climate models and statistical analyses conducted by others on the ability of the global climate models to track historical temperatures. These tests show that standard climate models are rejected by time series data on global temperatures. Finally, we update and extend previous statistical analysis of temperature data (Dagsvik et al., 2020). Using theoretical arguments and statistical tests we find, as in Dagsvik et al. (2020), that the effect of man-made CO2 emissions does not appear to be strong enough to cause systematic changes in the temperature fluctuations during the last 200 years.”
The authors point out what many have been saying for years. Any observed warming may simply be natural, a rebound from a period known as the Little Ice Age. The researchers acknowledge that long-term temperature readings consistently show an upward trend, but they question whether that trend directly corresponds to mankind’s CO2 emissions.
Warming periods of the past — the Medieval Warm Period, for example — are often ignored by those who have a vested interest in anthropogenic climate change being true. But the study’s authors argue that such history is completely germane to the global-warming debate.
Citing recent historic temperature reconstructions from Greenland, the authors report that “a new method that utilizes argon and nitrogen isotopic ratios from occluded air bubbles … indicate that warmer temperatures were the norm in the earlier part of the past 4,000 years, including century-long intervals nearly 1°C warmer than the decade (2001-2010).”
The study also points out that the recent warming trend appears to predate man’s ability to be responsible for it.
“Temperature reconstructions indicate that there is a ‘warming’ trend that seems to have been going on for as long as approximately 400 years. Prior to the last 250 years or so, such a trend could only be due to natural causes,” the official Norwegian government report states.
And even if the current upward trend in temperatures is different from historical trends, it’s not necessarily the fault of mankind’s emissions.
“Even if the temperatures in recent years should turn out to deviate systematically from the variations in earlier times, it is still a complicated challenge to quantify how much of this the change due to emissions of CO2,” the study says.
The paper acknowledges the so-called consensus among the scientific community on climate change.
“At present, there is apparently a high degree of consensus among many climate researchers that the temperature increase of the last decades is systematic (and partly man-made). This is certainly the impression conveyed by the mass media.”
But it also points out that climate scientists are not always forthcoming with their data. In truth, they appear to actively hide data at times.
“For non-experts, it is very difficult to obtain a comprehensive picture of the research in this field, and it is almost impossible to obtain an overview and understanding of the scientific basis for such a consensus,” the study states.
Ultimately, Dagsvik and Moen conclude that a natural cause of global warming — as opposed to a man-made cause — is likely, and that CO2 emissions are statistically insignificant when it comes to causing serious warming.
“We find … that the hypothesis that the temperature process varies randomly around a constant level (stationarity) is not rejected. This may indicate that the effect of CO2 emissions in the last 200 years is not strong enough to cause systematic changes in the temperature fluctuations.”
One can hear the objections from the climate cult already. “Dagsvik and Moen are not climate scientists,” they’ll say. “Therefore their research cannot be taken seriously.”
No, these researchers are not climate scientists, but they are statisticians. And, typically, statistics are incapable of lying. Many climate scientists, on the other hand, are perfectly comfortable with lies and half-truths.
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Gene Schenck
West has no meaning if you live in California Japan is to the west we are all to be included.
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Dent L. Sweem
There is no climate crisis. There is however a misinformation crisis!
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/religious-cult-amasses-fortune-by-feeding-right-wingers-with-conspiracies-report/ar-AA1iawm1?
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Pastor George Day
Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson,
How does this link relate to the topic?
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
By illustrating how eager conservatives are, to hear what they want to hear.
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Paul Johnson
What makes this a conservative are liberal issue. Stupidity is all around.
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Matthew Mastrogiovanni
Capitalism is to blame.
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JaZe
I've just read that research shows the Earth is slowly tilting due to the enormous amounts of water being extracted which is affecting the distribution of underground water and thus Earth's balance. Water is the most precious resource on this planet!
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Robin Anne Hannon
Fear is everywhere and while times are trying and scary, I prefer not to harp on fear. To me if we have faith to fear, conversely, we have faith to have faith. I can't change political climates. I can't personally and alone fix climate change. What I can do is throw myself before God in serious prayer. If these are the end times either I live through them or I'm martyred. This is in His hands, and He holds all the keys. I choose not to die fearfully, but to live fully in God's grace. When it is my time what fear is there in going back to the loving arms of God?
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John Albert Daniel
I AM GLAD THE POPE, USE THE NAME WESTERNERS, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE IF CLIMATE CHANGE IS REAL OR FAKE THEY MESS EVERYTHING UP.
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Theresa C. Marquess
Let's get real, people. Our earth goes through normal cycles of tropical temperatures and ice ages. This has gone on for eons. The reality of it is that all that we have done on our planet has not 'polluted our atmosphere' anywhere near what is being said. Our entire world population would fit well within the boundaries of our country with a good deal of room to spare! We are not nearly as 'bad off' as the news media would want us to believe. Okay, chickies enjoy your life without fear.
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Thomas P. Davis
Interesting you made that remark. I remember when the earth was 6 billion in population, and they were screaming overpopulation. I read an article from a charity at the time, and they laughed at that statement. They said if you made a circle on the earth with a radius of 26 miles, that all the people on the planet could easily fit into it. So, I got my math book for the area of a circle and calculated people to be 6 foot tall and 3 feet wide and lo and behold all could fit, laying down next to each other. As far as feeding them, farmers are paid not to plant, other farmers are paid to dump the crops, all to keep prices high. The amount of food us Americans throw away every year could feed the world and if the meat eaters in America along would quit eating meat, the food that could be planted on the same land could feed the entire population of hungry people. I too bought into that lie years ago and the first time I flew and saw all the empty land realized I had been propaganda to death, if I remember correctly something like 80% of the population of the world live in like only 12 cities.
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Pastor George Day
Theresa C. Marquess,
There were no ice ages on the earth, only a big flood. That did bring big climate changes, for it had never rained on earth before. Look what happened!
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Rev Ned
Getting all nations to seriously do something about climate change is like herding cats. IMHO, it’s a natural occurrence exacerbated by humans. I doubt that it can ever be “reversed”, only slowed. The earth is not “dying” only made less hospitable for human life. After we’re extinct, there will still be cockroaches, cyanobacteria, tardigrades and, unless we “harvest” them to extinction for their blood, horseshoe crabs.
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Peter Senderowitz
The Pope is right but: 1- the mass of "we the people" have bought into this empty, piggish consumerism; 2- what's the Pope's program to solve the problem- let us prey(?)
Rev. P.S.
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Pastor George Day
Peter Senderowitz,
I think you meant 'pray' :-)
What is wrong with praying?
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Diane Minna LaFave
I don't believe any thing that comes from the Vatican . I don't make this statement against the People of this Faith. Many Truths will be revealed that will shock the masses. Many won't want to accept these Truths. It was certainly difficult for me. There is a war raging between Good & Evil . God wins, we win !
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Minister Butterworth
I am Christian. I care about the environment. So don't take it that im sounding off against either of those. What is a pope? Just a man put in a position of power by other men. It's my opinion that he should take heed to the Bibles teachings of the warning signs for the end of civilization in its current form instead of complaining about it. I think his time would be better spent praying or something constructive. If he truly feels so strongly about it he could free up some of the gold etc they are sitting on and do something about it. In the words of M.L.K. "be the change you want to see in the world". If he do something instead of just being talk, maby others would jump on board with him and accomplish something.
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Shango MasterExorcist, D.D.
The Pope and Bill Gates have the same credibility as each other on "climate change".
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Pastor George Day
Shango MasterExorcist, D.D.,
Has the devil told you that?
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Louise Marie Harmon
The church certainly has a checkered past with their flagrant disregard for indigenous peoples' rights and their lands, amassing great wealth at their expense, but Pope Francis appears to be trying change the imperialistic practices of the past. I admire his willingness to speak out against the many injustices to which the church has turned a blind-eye, often garnering significant criticism from his own church members for doing so.
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Ben Joseph Hellard
I would agree, but it's only part of the problem. Any volcanic eruption produces way more than mankind. But it does not change the fact than we need to find ways to reduce our imprint.
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Mrknowitall
The Pope is a complete Dope. He is ruled by Satan
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Pastor George Day
Daniel Ginther,
You clearly don't hear to Pope Francis at all.
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Ellie_Loves
I have never been one to agree with the Pope but he is correct. Climate change is real yet the narrative is being glossed over by those raking in billions a dollars each year at the expense of the planet and future generations. Add to that equation politicians who will say anything to remain in office at our expense. It's not very "christian" as the claim to be. Yet, let's be clear, the planet will survive and morph into something that we will no longer recognize until the sun decides to go supernova and obliterate everything in this galaxy we reside in.
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Pastor George Day
Ellie_Loves...
... prophecy of gloom! Jesus will sooner come back :-)!
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Christina Clark
I think the Pope has much more to be afraid of than the so called climate change. Perhaps he needs to think about all the pedophilia that surrounds him & so many others he knows. You’ll find out just like I did. It’s called research.
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TZTX
Years ago, Kuwait burned over 200 million vehicle tires. I think that might effect air quality. And Kuwait is not a Western country.
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TZTX
I find the big commotion of climate change somewhat amusing. Yes, the climate is changing. Study the climate change history and you will see that every 50-100 years it changes. I find it more amusing that the Pope is saying it’s due to the Western country’s way of life…the United States. He needs to go more west until it becomes east. China produces more pollution that the U.S. does. And here is my main point on Climate change. The scientists who are paid by government grants point to car emissions and cows as the problem. There are more than 500 active volcanoes in the world. Take the least of these and each day the amount of ash, heat, and poisonous gases that are released into the air, I would say that has a lot to do with air quality and ozone. Sure, the countries of the world need to quit dumping plastics and their factory wastes in the ocean so that we can protect the Earth as much as possible and enjoy its true beauty. But overall, the air pollution doesn’t come close to the air pollution of a volcano.
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Gerry R
The world has always had climate changing patterns. However the climate has not changed this rapidly without some outside influence. We can all blame everyone else or simply choose to ignore it but it does not change the fact that we are in the age of the Anthropocene.
China and India are indeed super emitting. What we need to realize is that they build most of the components or devices we use in our western homes. If we consumed less, they would emit less by not supplying our throwaway cultures needs. Unfortunately we simply can’t recycle our way out of this predicament.
This is way to difficult a topic to simply address it in a couple of paragraphs. However I do appreciate the fact that the Pope is trying to address the issue and stand up for future generations.
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Thomas Christopher Medina
During these times of finger pointing, thank you for identifying ONE of OUR society's parts in the big scheme. A lot of people are unable to make that connection. We all contribute, sometimes consciously and sometimes unconsciously. It's up to each individual to realize and correct his or her contribution to the problem.
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Janet Louise Heiser
I remember reading a story about a flood that wiped out most of civilization. There is One who controls the climate. The only "whether" we control is whether we trust Him. We are to take care of the resources He gives us, but we are not mother nature. Maybe the climate changes are more of a result of gray choices in life.
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Thomas Christopher Medina
There has always been, and always will be natural occurrences on this planet. I agree that that does not provide us with an excuse to abuse our resources and neglect our accountability to the planet and each other.
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Pastor George Day
Janet Louise Heiser,
Nature is not our mother. The Ruach is :-)
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Rev. Carol M Anaski-Figurski
May God Bless the Pope & all religious leaders & pray for World Peace amoungest the conflicts. Live your life.
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William J Lewis
He is right, the true evil is the love of money. I have always said the end of Humans will be greed. It isn't just climate change it is a general extinction of all life as we know it. We have used it all up, lead by the by the Wealthiest and most comfortable few.
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Charles Edward Brown
I just do not believe the climate change hoax. Weather has been the same during my U2 years on this earth. We have always had times of severe weather and times of stable weather. If God gave these people in the corporations the ability to perform their work then they are not the cause of climate change. I am more concerned about those who do not believe in God aborting a child from the womb up to the time of birth. I am also more concerned about less that 3% population in the LGBTQAL/GENDER CONFUSED CROWD demanding the other 97% plus conform to their behaviour. Let everyone live in peace and stop demanding I conform to you lifestyle when I am just fine in my God given life.
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Pastor George Day
Charles Edward Brown,
So the rest of us should live a miserable life, right?
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Shannon MacConnell
I think everyone who's posted comments on here so far are all correct about what is contributing to the change but instead of doing something about it we'd rather waste time blaming each other rather doing something about it, so I think that's the real problem is how we all would rather sit here talking and blaming each other of our wrong doings to this planet we need to stop waiting on the next person to step up and do something because most civilization would rather sit on their *** while leaving all the work load on the few who are willing to do it maybe we all have to stop being selfish like that start sharing the load start offering help whether that help is a little bit or lot we just need to throw in on it stop waiting for the few and start being the many.... I hope I've made sense just now it's still early here and I'm struggling to wake my middle schooler up for school because he stayed up to late so I got a lot on my mind hahaha... Everyone smile don't take each other so seriously be kind and always hold the door open for the one behind you. Thank you!
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Pastor George Day
Shannon MacConnell,
Get that lazy kid ready for school :-) !!
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Thomas P. Davis
I don't believe in climate change that the media teaches, but I do believe that is changing. The weather is nothing like it was when I was a child. None of the sayings from the Farmer's Almanac are applicable anymore. i.e., Red Sky at night...... March comes in ...... April showers ....... Then add to it events like the Sunami that Sir Lanka a while back that shifted the earth 1. + degrees on its axis, then the one that hit Japan and shifted it another 3. + degrees on its axis. Now you have the sun warming the Northern Hemisphere more than the Southern Hemisphere, causing the air temperatures and oceans temperatures to change, causing the air and water currents to change as well. Then you have the ash circulating the globe and changing the temps from a single volcanic eruption. Only problem is the last time I looked a volcano usually spews ash into the air more than once and there were at least 10 volcanoes erupting in the world. Then the moon is moving farther away from the earth every year changing the tides which change the weather. So, i see that man has very little control over any of those. Now the devil that knows his time is short and Jesus said that these events would continue as a woman in labor. They will increase in frequency and intensity before His return. As far as those lithium batteries are concerned, my only comment on them is not to park in an older parking garage because the reports I read on three of those garages that collapsed were due to the weight of the electric cars that did not exist when they designed them.
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TZTX
Interesting. I just posted about volcanoes before I started reading the comments so I wasn't swayed in my comment and you Sir, hit on a key point. People need to quit being sheep and just believing everything they hear. They need to put a bit of effort in to learn these things on their own. Thanks for posting your comments. They have substance and common sense.
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Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson
Climate change has happened as long as the planet has had an atmosphere. The only way to stop it is to strip the atmosphere away.
Man is fouling the nest in many ways, though.
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Pastor George Day
Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson,
The first climate change happened in Noah's days. It had never rained on earth before... look what it did!
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Brian
Yes Sir , You hit the nail right on the head
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Climate change is a farce from the elites only wanting to control the world. Their green agenda is raping the world with its lithium mining and enslaving those doing the.mining. They are supporting a proxy war in Ukraine that will fail. They set the forests on fire to scare the populace into submission. Arsonists were caught. It didn't scare the population into submission. They threaten to take the land. They chop down trees sayingvtrees zdd to the warming of the world. Pseudo scientific stupidity. Years ago they said to.plantbtrees. now they want to saw them all done. The world needs forests for photosynthesis or the human population dies. They want to.kill off 6 billion people. Genocidal maniacs.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Lithium is a primary material for the batteries in electric cars. Big oil doesn't like that - so neither do you.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Sanderson. I do not support the mining of lithium for many reasons. It's far more destructive to the environment then FOSSIL FUELS. It enslaves those who mine it. Mostly women and children. It's causing horrible problems health wise for those who do mine it. The world cannot operate without fossil fuels. And we aren't really doing anything to prepare for electric cars to be recharged. It's all a complete joke. And try driving an electric car through the desert on a very hot day. You better have a good cooling system to.keep those lithium batteries cool or you'll have a fire on your hands. I believe that all sources of energy were put here for a reason. The world can feed itself without the use of chemicals and all the darn genetic manipulation we do to our food sources. The grains we grow today are so genetically enhanced to withstand a certain amount of drought, to make it less susceptible to insects and blight, even cold. A loaf of bread baked from non genetic enhanced grain has a completely different taste. All of our genetic enhanced food is cancer causing. I don't think we were meant to play with nature the way we do. I remember as a kid you could walk through the corn rows. You can't do that as easily today. We plant closer rows. Same with soy beans.
We have found so.maby ways to create engines that run off of food waste like used fryer oil, water combustible engines which were never built because the automobile industry didn't want to convert to some other form of energy. I remember years ago people had invented cars using the type if batteries we use to start our cars with generators. In my opinion that would be far more cheaper then lithium batteries. At least the car would charge up its own energy source. Lithium batteries will lose energy just sitting idle. Acid batteries charge up when running .-
Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
It amazes me how often fringe right-wingers scream "Follow the money!", then don't.
Big oil is the big loser in human caused climate change - end of story.
Hydrocarbon pollution is literally killing the planet, but a few drops of ink and a gullible public fixes that easily enough.
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ServantOfJudgement
Keith,
I could have written that, you're right on. Lithium is like compact fluorescent lights they made us all go to for a bit. They're more destructive to the environment and toxic to people. It was a money grab and tats all lithium is. It's bad for the environment and people.
The left knows this but won't agree because the right says it. Maybe we should start saying lithium is great so they say what we know.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
And who made sure that was put all over right-wing media?
Fox News is the NUMBER ONE cable news network because right-wingers LOVE to be told what to think. Liberals, not so much - and that's why left-wing media struggles.
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ServantOfJudgement
By chance, pure chance, there's a massive lithium deposit in the Ukraine. And by chance, pure chance there's a war there. There used to be a lithium mill in Toledo. Now there's a vacant lot. Once it burns there's nothing for it. It will burn completely. I dove by the fire on my way to teach. Just wow. I get the chance to play with the stuff now and again. Super fun!
I think it's dumb to use oil the way we do. We're literally sipping from a cup of oil with our fertilizers. We use it to create the microplastics found in everything and everywhere. We pump 2-butoxyethanol into the earth to fracture the surface for oil. All of these things we do concerning oil are so very foolish and unhealthy. So unwise.
I have nothing to support this but I feel that oil has a function for the planet. It's just a thought I had once and can't seem to shake. I suppose since I believe the earth was created to sustain humans everything in it has a purpose.
We definitely need to get away from oil as quickly as we can but not at the cost of people and their lively hood. Where there are mega dollars at stake it's pretty damned hard to make any real progress. Lithium is the new oil, that's not the answer. God willing someone will crack the code and find free energy before they can be stopped. I bet it's right in front of our faces. Too smart to see it though.
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Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
As, according to the Roman Catholic Church, the Christian God’s representative on the planet Earth, is the Roman Catholic pope; and on the other countless planets, in the cosmos, we’ve yet to learn “whose God they have” “which church has a leader, whose such, and such leader it has, or if this leader is the leader of only Roman Catholic Christians, but other Christians, Roman, Greek, Russian, or whatever. If anyone claims, that their God, is represented on this Earth they’re to blame, for not telling their God, what’s happening here on Earth.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
That is the most anti catholic statement ever made. The Catholic Church has always opposed those with money. The sad thing is the pope is deceived. He speaks truth and untruth. The Western economies are responsible for the plastic pollution in the ocean. I also blame China. She used to take our plastic refuse. I wouldn't put it past them to also dump some of that plastic in the ocean themselves. But. Why can't we go back to glass which is the easiest thing to use over and over. You can't really recycle plastic. And now the elites claim there is a water shortage. BS. Just another deception to mislead the common people.
They want us to drink plant based milk but I noticed the Plant based milk is far more higher in calories then then real cow milk at 2%, 1%, or skim milk. The pope is listening to scientists on the world elites payroll. Oxygen is at a depletion because of the loss of trees. And strange the forest fires this summer were started by arsonists in most circumstances. Nothing to do with climate change. And Gates believing cutting trees down will cut back on temperature rising. Trees are necessary for photosynthesis which helps to create oxygen. Pseudo science. But, I've known all along this pope has been siding with the elites on fake climate change. I have as yet not heard anything critiquing the Chinese who actually produce more carbon then Americans do.-
Michael Hunt
And you're listening to big oil fat cats who are laughing their way to the bank while our climate slides into collapse...
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John Robert Milner
True words
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ServantOfJudgement
Why don't you just pray to Nature to adjust it's CO2 level from 0.04% to 0.0399999999999999999999% and call it good? Save the planet, be the hero. Do the right thing.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
I see that in right-wing propaganda a lot. "It's such a tiny amount - how can that possibly matter?"
That's the thing about science SOJ - is it pays strict attention to verifiable facts, instead of what just sounds right.
Yes, that's the way it works. That's what science has found out through experimentation and verification.
Please adjust your thinking.
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Colleen McAllister
The Pope is correct about Climate Change. The part I don't agree with is shifting most of the blame to the so-called Western nations. China is one of the worst polluters and breaking it down per person does not tell the story as they have such a high population, most of whom are poor by political design.
We are all responsible for the pollution of this planet. Add to that the natural processes and we have a major problem. It may be too late to reverse what we have done, but we can stop it from getting worse. And we can learn to adapt to the changes.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
It can always be reversed. Nature has a way of bouncing back very quickly. So does wildlife if species don't go extinct.
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James Riggle-Johnson
Yes, the earth will will bounce back, but how many of us will it destroy in the process. I wonder what are children and grand children are going to think of us when they're paying the price of what we've done today.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
The earliest estimate for the earth to recover from human caused climate change is 10,000 years, according to estimations from previous climatic shifts.
https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2021/10/211019123548.htm
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Pastor George Day
Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson,
The world is only 5784 years old!
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Well, there's the religious opinion (yours), and there's the scientific view arrived at through the empirical and collaborative analysis of overwhelming physical evidence.
You can claim what you want to claim, but by your own epistemology is only supported by your "belief".
The questions becomes "Evidence or belief?"
Which do you support PGD? Which do you think rational people will support?
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Pastor George Day
Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson,
What you call evidence is pure scientific opinion.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
You mean the opinion that has evidence, rather than the opinion that just has opinion?
You seriously can't have just intentionally said that.
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Pastor George Day
Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson,
All scientific so-called evidence is based on opinion.
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Lionheart
Sir George, you use this forum using a computer, right? It has been designed and created by science. People with brilliantly educated minds. Look around you. Pretty much everything you can see, the medicines you take are all science based.
Please credit science for what it is and how it affects your life.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
That's your opinion - and that's the difference, right there.
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Amber Fry
They were. They have a lot of issues but one of the things they have busting their backside to fix is their pollution issues. It's slow going but it is going.
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Daniel Charles Blecha
The pope is correct.
I've been soaking about "the ills to come" ( that are here now) prior to 1970 when I noticed shifting trends!!!
Ah, but back then I noted ( and spoke of) over population ( then only 4 billion versus near 8 billion today).
I also spoke of DEBT: both governmental, corporate & individual. === Back then WE COULD HAVE FIXED ALL THINGS!!!! NOW MAYBE IMPOSSIBLE (???)!
Sadly adults do not grow wider but regress to lower levels ( hmm, my own study of IQ proves the constant drop).
==== FIX ( rewire) the Amygdala to allow Frontal Cortex to also function simultaneously with it & ISSUES WILL QUICKLY DISSAPPEAR !!!! ( but that requires adults to actually dare to "see there are much better ways than how their minds became ( disassociated & separated) unfunctionally capable. ==== THIS IS WHAT WE ACCOMPLISH @ The Magic Shoulder...
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Liberals: "We can solve hunger, ignorance, homelessness, poverty, pollution, disease, and war once and for all!"
Conservatives: "I'm not paying for that!"
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
There is no over population. We grow enough crops and livestock to feed the world in all countries combined. People starve because of wars which bring about famine. The 60 million who died under Stqlin's Regime starving to death in Ukraine was caused bt communist central planning. Crops were taken to Russia and only some farmland was planted for several years after that. Not enough to feed the Ukranians. The food shortages we are facing now throughout the world is being done purposely. The world is not over populated. That is communist propaganda . The farmland that China and Bill Gates is buying is laying unused at the present moment. Only to create food shortage in the U.S. Foreign governments and their entities shouldn't be allowed to buy American farmland. Neither should huge corporations. And the government should not be involved in setting guidelines for organic production. Now they tell the Amish how to farm. REALLY. Now the Amish are beginning to vote Republican whereas they never used to vote.
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TZTX
People in the US that say we are over populated, need to take a break from their concrete cities and travel by road to Iowa, Illinois, Nebraska and keep going west. Over population may be because of resources but that is because governments care about themselves and not the people they govern. Spend the money to grow food and not for wars.
As you said Bill Gates and our own government is trying to limit food production. I believe our government is collecting 'seeds'. if they have the seeds, we the people (farmers) won't be able to grow vegetables and now they want to get rid of cows because of gas. How stupid!
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Robert Rohr
Overpopulated? I live in the southern Arizona desert. My only neighbors are jackrabbits and an occasional rattlesnake.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Try living somewhere people actually want to live - like everybody else.
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Pastor George Day
Keith Allen Steele Eash,
You said this before!
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Angelic Realms
No one cares what this blasphemous traitor thinks of anything. Anti christ trash pro islamist Jesus hater..
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Pastor George Day
Angelic Realms,
You seem to know very little about Pope Francis!
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Rev Mark D
The two biggest coal users and air polluters in the world: China, India Russia, Brazil. The two biggest polluters in the world: China, India, Russia, Brazil. Fast approaching: Indonesia. Can't have a party without them, but they aren't the ones who can be cajoled into paying the Church of the Holy Sex Abuse and Torture sect, plus nobody but the West is going to spend anything to fix the world, so headlines and stories about china, india, etc. don't pay off so well, plus the writers tend to lose their heads.
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Nicholas J Page
Global Warming as it was known has been going on for years Yes it is mankind who is helping destroy our planet But I did read years ago.That Earth is getting closer to the Sun and we will be destroyed eventually.So who is right are we nearing the Sun as well as helping destroy our planet.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
That's BS. Since God created the World it won't be destroyed as you said. Nor will man ever destroy it. Ot's already in its new Creation since Christ 's Resurrection. What the world is going through is its birth pangs of the New Creation.
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Gerardo Garza
Amazingly for an institution whose main goal is to amass great quantities of gold, it is odd for it to take a stand against money. If money is the main driver for most corporations, the Catholic Church has always laid as its basic foundation,MONEY. Maybe money is the main driver in climate change is money. Pot calling the kettle black?
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Angelic Realms
Exactly they paid Spain to slash and burn through 200 million natives and their cities.
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ServantOfJudgement
If you're talking about the Mayan and Aztec, they needed no help murdering people. Yep, those guys had a hard time putting the ole knife down once they got going. Million upon millions upon millions were sacrificed to make it rain, or stop raining for that matter. Whatever they needed, they'd sacrifice and cannibalize a human for. Interestingly, they were put down in a biblical fashion, as God says he does.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
For once I'd have to agree with you. At least they brought a religion that was not based on cannibalism.
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Tecla Caryl Loup
Nope, no point in eating them--just kill them outright. So much better, eh?
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Rev. Dr. G. Waldron
I thank God for humble Pope Francis. Unlike so many “evangelist” church members, he isn’t brain washed. He speaks love while so many of these “christian’s” speak hate and decision.
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Pastor George Day
Rev. Dr. G. Waldron,
I agree with you. I also like Pope Francis very much :-)
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Michael Holland
Climate change is real, man is to blame! My opinion and so is the opinion of scientists!
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Rev. MichaelRS
So what was responsible for the climate change about 22,000 years ago that warmed the globe and and melted the ice sheet that covers that cover 2/3 of Britain.
Or what was responsible for the 240 year drought in California that started around the year 850 or the one that lasted 150 years starting around the year 1140.
In each of those cases it must have been the campfires from the few hundred stone age people scattered around those regions that's so polluted the atmosphere that it caused those extreme events.
And I'll let us move on to the pollution caused by the car batteries when they no longer have a useful life and have to be discarded somewhere or the wind turbines that lay in Mass graveyards all over the place when those structures and their useful lifespan. And no, by-n--large they are not being recycled.
This whole man-made climate change scare is simply done by people who want to control people the internal combustion engine is freedom. Having constant electrical power outages and power shortages and vehicles that have limited range and take a long time to charge all inhibit that freedom. Just like the global communist want
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Stop getting your science from Fox News and OAN.
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John Robert Milner
Ken, your living in a dream world! Climate changes have been going on for eons! Climate change is a hoax for $, backed by New World Order advocates
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
And you got your doctorate in climate science from...?
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Michael Hunt
Next you'll say it's the pesky Globalists who are trying to destroy the world! You're just repeating anti-Semitic dog whistles.
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Pastor George Day
John Robert Milner,
Here you go with conspiracy theories!
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
There is no over population. We grow enough crops and livestock to feed the world in all countries combined. People starve because of wars which bring about famine. The 60 million who died under Stqlin's Regime starving to death in Ukraine was caused bt communist central planning. Crops were taken to Russia and only some farmland was planted for several years after that. Not enough to feed the Ukranians. The food shortages we are facing now throughout the world is being done purposely. The world is not over populated. That is communist propaganda . The farmland that China and Bill Gates is buying is laying unused at the present moment. Only to create food shortage in the U.S. Foreign governments and their entities shouldn't be allowed to buy American farmland. Neither should huge corporations. And the government should not be involved in setting guidelines for organic production. Now they tell the Amish how to farm. REALLY. Now the Amish are beginning to vote Republican whereas they never used to vote.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Maybe you should stop watching CNN and The masturbate channel MSNBC.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Classy, KASE, as always.
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Mary Marsella
Well, if you can argue that 20,000 years ago there were factories, plastics, planes, trains and automobiles , oil drilling and extraction that lead to combustion engines for those mass modes of transportation, for agricultural chemicals and that it had no impact on the size of forests, grasslands and the shapes of our mountains in coal mining areas, then maybe your argument would have some credibility.
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Rev. MichaelRS
That's right, there were NOT all those things all that long ago. Yet the climate was still changing in a variety of ways that made life inhospitable in many areas that resulted in the mass Ingress and egress of various populations down through the ages.
So what was the cause of that climate change without all those nasty people doing nasty things to the environment?
People talk about this that the other environmental condition being the worst in recorded history. Well what is recorded history when it comes to the environment as far as we are concerned? Less than 200.
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Tecla Caryl Loup
I believe in doing one's damnedest to not crap up one's living space, including one's community/county/state.
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Daniel Charles Blecha
Hmm, let's use this example of How/ What man causes that augment the natural world ( we'll use $$$ as example):
I.e. : let's use $1,000 weekly income. * Needs caused by "natural means" are food, water, roof over head, sufficent heat, maybe cooling, electricity for power, clothing, and all that adds up to $999 weekly.
In that case that family, company, government is/ stays "cash positive" and actually gains wealth weekly ( only $1 but still positive and forever OK ...
But MAN DOES NOT DO THAT: HE ALWAYS MUST "GO OVER THE TOP", hence over the $1,000 weekly income... === this equals Bankrupcy, maybe not today but eventually at best. ( instead of the positive compounding effect, it negatively "digs a hole like a grave"!
---- using same analogy, nature dies change the climate certainly over time ( and many creatures, including man likely can adapt/ evolve with it given the gradual time needed... BUT THE IDIOCRICY OF MAN not only creates a huge negative, adding to negative events, but it FAST TRACKS IT TO RUINATION, not just of man, but other creatures, plants, the air, land & seas!!!
As our decades long studies have shown MAN'S I.Q. HAVE DROPPED CONSISTENTLY ( even though with today's actually marvelous technologies, man's I Q. Should am Soar!!!!
--- It is a BRAIN THING where adults take the near perfect brains of children starting at birth and rather than create upward soaring of intelligence truly DUMB DOWN ALL by creating literal simulataneous brain function of frontal lobe ( intelligent part) whereby amygdala ( pea sized, total REACTIONARY TO STIMULI & REACTIVE EMOTIONS CONDITIONED IN) that SHUTS DOWN FRONTAL LOBE "whenever it is personal" or anything conditioned/ programmed in CAUSING ZERO INTELLIGENCE BUT INSTANT AUTO REACTION IN EVERY ADULT!
THIS IS WHY MANKIND ANAYA HAS REGRESSED & ALWAYS WILL ...
----- THE FIX IS ACTUALLY SIMPLE ( WE UNCOVERED IT AFTER DECADES OF TESTS, STUDIES & TRIALS THAT ACTUALLY BRING THE BRAIN FULL FU CTIONALITY BACK AS E ARE ALL BORN WITH! It is a simple rewiring of the brain where synapses between neurons in both brain segments mentioned again occur naturally.==== THIS IS MAN'S ONLY HOPE TO SURVIVE === BUT IN REALITY IT CREATES MAN TO THRIVE!!!
Heck, by now, IF NOT FOR THIS CONDITIONED IN FLAW, Man Would Be/ Should Be SOARING A.ONG THE STARS instead of stuck in the same ( worse actually) situations that have been here for 1000s of years!!!
Man is man's own quest enemy!
We can/ do "fix that" at our organization THE MAGIC SHOULDER !
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Robert Rohr
Very well expressed. The last time I was in China, there was a constant pollution haze in the cities that extended far out into surrounding areas. India is no better. Don't see that in the U.S. or Europe. How is the West the culprit? Pollution regs are more stringent. Pope is just using politically correct rhetoric to be popular and have an appearance of relevancy. As Rev. Michael correctly points out, the Earth has natural heating/cooling cycles.
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Pastor George Day
Rev. MichaelRS,
It was not the melting of ice. It was a flood that covered the entire world, which is only 5784 years old!
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Lionheart
Thank you so much for that piece of humor, Sir George. I knew you had it in you. 🤗
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Bought scientists who are paid by the WEF. FOLLOW THE MONEY. IT'S A FARCE BY ELITES WHO WANTBYOU TO EAT BUGS AND SLUGS AND FAKE MEAT GROWN FR CANCER CELLS. BOY ARE YOU DECEIVED.
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Michael Hunt
BAHAHAHAHAHA!!! Talk about conspiracy theories...
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ServantOfJudgement
Michael,
You do know they're eating bugs in Europe already right? It's not conspiracy it's everyday life. It's not a choice the people made it's a law the government passed. It's open truth that they're working on lab grown meat, these things are happening, you won't choose it but you sure will eat it. The WEF says these things openly, you don't have to go to 4chan or qanon to find it. Just google or utube it and listen to them say it in front of the camera and each other. It's that easy.
Delivery from ignorance is bliss.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Are you eating bugs SOJ? I'm not.
That said - how do you think that's actually going to go over? I'll tell you - I have no idea. People might actually find them delicious. What are you going to do then? Demonize the people that like them?
You really have to stop with this attitude that you own the universe. Things change. Things move on. Things that you find "Yucky!" become all the next rage. And what do you care anyway? You've made it perfectly clear you could care less about how habitable the world will be you leave for future generations. You deny ANY responsibility! How very responsible of you.
And do you know what one of the DIRTIEST tricks right-wing media plays? I'll tell you - for real this time - they report the facts, but then tell you what to think about them.
I see it all over right-wing media. Think about that.
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ServantOfJudgement
Golly Kenneth,
You mean to tell me my pee brain saw an article on Fox news that told me to think eating bugs in bread is disgusting so now I think it's disgusting? Wow, I didn't realize my mind was so easy to control. Geez-o-Pete's I'm worried now that everything I think is just someone's else's thoughts and not my own.
I sure wish I had the brainpower of you lefties, that way when I watch CNN tell me um, well, say that the uhh, the peaceful ya know, the peaceful protests are umm ya know, fiery but um well peaceful I could see right through the propaganda and realize that firey protests that burn down neighbors are anything but peaceful. Wait, you don't think you're the one being brainwashed do you. No, only conservatives are that weak minded. You guys got the facts and you know what to do with them.
Now go get yourself a nice plate of meal worms, they're delicious!
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Aww, now don't be like that SOJ. I'm not big on bugs myself either - but other people eat them all the time, and that's the difference right there - When something makes me uncomfortable, I don't decide the rest of humanity won't like it either. I let them decide.
Right-wing media exploited this same thing with the riots. The two different ways it was covered wasn't a bug - it's a feature. Do you know why they were rioting? You would if you watched CNN. Do you know why Fox News inflated the damages and altered the video? Of course, you may not object.
CNN centered on the protest, the conflict, and yes they certainly did cover the loss of life. Happy people don't riot. Fox News centered on the destruction of property - and literally made a quite production out of it.
Have you ever asked yourself that question, of why the two networks covered it like they did - of what they both together might say about America in general?
That's liberal and conservative values, right there, for starters.
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Pastor George Day
Keith Allen Steele Eash,
What is the need for shouting?
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Jimmy Moon
Global warming is fake news.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
And who told you that?
Fox News.
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Jimmy Moon
Common sense. The hottest summer was 1936. A long time before today. Read this article by Rene Marrou. I bet you still won't believe the facts.
Hottest Summer in a Billion Years! By which we mean, ninety. René Marrou Aug 21, 2023 The Daily Oklahoman, August 13, 1936
This has been the hottest summer ever. The National Weather Service assured us it was the hottest July on record, that we’ve had five of the hottest years ever in the past ten or so, and the past month was the hottest July in 120,000 years! Why, that was so long ago, our ancestors had to hack thermometers out of granite while beating back saber-toothed tigers. The hottest year in a hundred and twenty thousand!
You know, except for 1936.
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Oh, nobody mentions 1936 these days because, well, it makes all that climate change talk look bad. Not many SUVs on the roads back in 1936. In fact, there were only 24 million vehicles on the highways of the United States in 1936, compared to almost 300 million today.
But that summer—that was one hot S.O.B. of a summer, my friend. Air conditioning existed only in movie theaters and a few bars back then. Nobody worth less than a million bucks had A/C in their homes, and that was when a million was serious money. In those days, everyone went to church on Sunday and the only climate control was the paper giveaway fans funeral homes provided to the attendees. A preacher looking out on the congregation that summer might have thought he was sermonizing to several hundred geisha.
Most climate change statistics you see begin in 1970 or so, back to 1950. That’s because that was a notoriously cool period in our history, so the temperatures since then seem warmer. But 1936—well, let’s take a look.
This has been a hot summer all over the country, no argument there. It’s been especially hot in the interior of the country, where cooling breezes off the ocean don’t reach and where cold fronts go to die. On July 3 of this year it hit 89 in Kansas City, Missouri and that high was repeated on July 13. On the twenty-third of the month, the mercury touched 91. (That’s just a phrase-they don’t use mercury thermometers for official temps anymore.)
It’s been hot—but let’s go back to 1936, with temperatures provided by the Kansas City Times newspaper. On that July 3 it was 103 degrees; on July 23, 102, and on July 13 it hit 105 degrees for three straight hours, so hot that the wife of a pitcher for the Saint Louis Blues baseball team collapsed on a downtown street of heat stroke and was hospitalized.
The real corker came in August of 1936. On the twelfth, the high temperature was 109 degrees, nearly twenty degrees hotter than the 90 recorded August 12 of this year.
Kansas City wasn’t all that unusual. I chose it basically at random, and then decided to test Oklahoma City as well. Here’s how it looked in July:
July 3, 1936: 98; July 3, 2023: 95
July 13, 1936; 101; July 13, 2023: 96
July 23, 1936: 103; July 23, 2023: 92
Of course, let’s not forget August 12:
1936: 110 degrees
2023: 92 degrees
And that wasn’t the record. On Monday the tenth it had hit 112 degrees at 3 p.m., and on the eleventh the high was 113! That makes the mere 104 in OKC on August 20 of this year seem relatively benign.
On August thirteenth, the Daily Oklahoman referred to 1936 as one of the hottest, driest summers on record—but all seems forgotten today, especially if we just went through the hottest July in 120,000 years, a claim so preposterous that any actual journalist should have refused to repeat it. That outrageous lie was made by the European Union’s Copernicus Climate Change Service, by people whose jobs and funding depend on convincing us all that global warming to about to set fire to every twig and blade of grass the sun touches. In reality, NOBODY has any idea how hot it was more than 120 years ago, much less 120,000.
It’s been a hot summer, but it can’t compare to 1936, when people couldn’t escape the heat by getting into their car, going into an office building or going home. It was a year when 30% of our gross national product was sweat, and even worse, most men were supposed to wear ties and most women, stockings. The fact that it’s being forgotten today shows that the people trying to sell us on unprecedented warming due to our SUVs have to lie to get us to be concerned about it.
And they will keep lying. You can bet on that.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
That's just the understanding of science I expected.
https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-66857354
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ServantOfJudgement
Jimmy moon,
You've clearly had too much to think when you wrote that. You're taking a chance though, the climbing change priests will not remember your statistics. They don't like to hear their God is wrong. Who does? The hate that Neptune is heating up from the sun but we aren't.
Bill Gates pays for his pollution. He still pollutes 100k+ times more than the average person but he pays his carbon offsets. Still pollutes though. That very fact should open the eyes to the ignorant but it won't. It should let people know it's just money and control packaged in a new box. They will let Bill Gates stifle their freedoms while his are expanded. They are very good pawns.
Enjoy your cricket guts bread guys. It's good to eat and makes the planet happy. Gates on the other hand will enjoy his filet mignon, rare.
The parrots will repeat the statements made by their trainers. That's good for the planet too.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
Parroting propaganda is 'thinking' now?
So yeah - I completely agree with your last sentence - and I know where the propaganda is at, and where it comes from.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/religious-cult-amasses-fortune-by-feeding-right-wingers-with-conspiracies-report/ar-AA1iawm1?
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Pastor George Day
Jimmy Moon,
The world is only 5784 years old :-)
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Lionheart
Do you have any evidence based logic to support you claim, Sir George?
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John Robert Milner
Scientists who know the truth
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
You mean these guys?
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific_consensus/
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Wendy Hoffman
Only the grossly uninformed would make such a comment.
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Jeffrey S. Weber
To those Climate Change deniers, think of it like this. It’s true, the earth has gone and continues to go through myriad glacial and interglacial periods (ex. Pleistocene, Neogene, Miocene, Gelasian…) over the billions of years it has been revolving around our sun, in our solar system and in our little galaxy, which expands outwards in the unfathomable expanse of our universe. The ebb and flow of the polar caps is a natural event. So you can have that one!
However, fossil fuels burned by humans for transportation, electricity and just about everything that is manufactured for human consumption, yes, including food, creates carbon dioxide amongst numerous other carcinogens (ex. carbon monoxide, nitrogen oxide, mercury…). Carbon emissions trap heat in the atmosphere and are accelerating, thus altering, the natural glacial periods that we know.
Believe it or not, scientists have been aware of the effects on the environment of human generated “greenhouse” gases, since the late 19th century! It wasn’t until the late 20th century, when multi-scientific disciplines began to accept this fact and participate in the study, that “Climate Change” became widely known. Thanks Al Gore!
In any event, “Climate Change” is for real, with 97% of Climate Scientists, et al, agreeing that humans are accelerating/alternating the otherwise natural glacial periods of the earth by burning fossil fuels and emitting other dangerous and destructive chemicals (ex. CFC’s) into the earth’s atmosphere.
Those who side with the other 3% of scientists and the “naysayers”, well…I hope you don’t have children or grandchildren, because they are going to live in a very different world than we did. And if you don’t have kids and don’t care about contributing to the solution (actually, in some cases, we are beyond the “point of no return”), then you are…well you know what you are.
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Pastor George Day
Jeffrey S. Weber,
The world is only 5784 years old :-)
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Tom Thackrey
The Pope is right. Ignoring climate change will not fix it or make it go away.
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Andrew Collin Baker
Since the godhead and the cross of CHRIST in 2012 rose we have been on borrowed time Christ is celestial not earthly and the earth is a boneyard not a dead planet but filled with spirit .May we learn quickly with peace and love through mary and Christ
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Pastor George Day
Andrew Collin Baker,
Christ isn't celestial. He is bodily.
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ServantOfJudgement
Climbing Change, it's what's for breakfast. Carbon dioxide being the bad guy here, we cause it. With an atmospheric composition of a whopping 0.04 percent, I'd say that's a mighty magnificent rudder.
I read in the 80s a single volcano puts out more socalled greenhouse gasses in a day than city folk do in a year. Fear not kids, the scientific community might have gotten it wrong then but THIS time they got it right, swear to God. Really, they did.
Anybody who thinks a vitally needed gas that's 0.04% of the atmosphere is not the cause of climbing change is a science denier. Let us crucify them with charts, silence them with grafts and belittle them with propaganda.
In other news, Neptune is losing its clouds. It receives a whopping 0.1% of the solar energy earth does. The egghead's say it's clouds are disappearing due to solar activity. I'm glad earth isn't affected by the sun like Neptune is. For some reason the sun is able to heat up Neptune without heating up earth.
Oh well, I'm not a scientist and have had way way too much to think already.
Climbing Change, it's cool till it's hot.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
You claim to be a science person SOJ - enjoy.
https://climate.nasa.gov/scientific_consensus/
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ServantOfJudgement
I've seen that graph already along with a bunch of other ones. The resolution always makes me laugh. Really it does. They sure make it look big and scary don't they?
Why do intelligent people ignore the other planets are heating up? Why is that only earth is unaffected by the giant ball of thermonuclear fire in the sky? How is Neptune affected but earth isn't, I can't find a graph for that.
Not only is the earth affected by direct solar radiation including the forms of energy we can't detect yet, it's also affected by its electrical energy in the form of a magnetic field. When a conductor(earth) cuts through a magnet field it creates current, current causes heat.
Scientists paycheck depends on grants to study climbing change. Ya think they wanna go without a paycheck? No sir.
I want to make this clear, were horrible stewards of this planet. No doubt. Let's clean up the islands of plastic and filth before we cut off our food supply and eat crickets or each other.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
So pollution is a problem - but not really.
Post your sources here. Let's see if they hold up to the same scrutiny as mine.
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ServantOfJudgement
That's why people are doomed Kenneth. You've got two people on opposite sides right here and we can't even agree on what we both agree on. I just took a decent stance against oil as fuel and its mega corp profit centers, it's never good enough, it never will be. What a sad thing. If there is no God we will never survive ourselves. I hope there is.
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Kenneth Lafe Eric Sanderson
OH - I totally fell for a GOTCHA! You OWN me!
Except I thought we were talking about existential threats? After you laughed at my source and put forth your own bogus theories? You know what they say - the first step is to admit there is a problem.
But no matter - you're the winner and I'm the loser. Now I can tell my grandchildren there's nothing to worry about.
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Agreed!
It looks like the Pope has forgot the largest poluter and that would be China (how many Coal Power Plants are they constructing at this moment and not a word about this. The Pope playing Politics once again. The more you pay attention to this Pope you would think that he has to be a part of the world system. Its like he doesn't understand that you can't honor the Devil and God at the same time. I think he has forgot what Jesus did in the wilderness when the Devil showed up. Jesus as man knew not to get into a conversation with the enemy so He told the Devil that it is written "you shall not temp the Lord it is written" Why we as people are smarter than Jesus its beyond me.