"For years, the feminists lied to us," exclaimed Christian author Lisa Bevere to a crowd of women gathered on the National Mall in Washington D.C. "They said for us to be powerful as women, we needed to act like men."
The crowd cheered in approval.
Similar sentiments were echoed by one speaker after another during an epic 4-day prayer rally in the nation's capital. Interspersed throughout the lineup of speakers were Christian worship and prayer services.
So, what was the rally all about? Apparently, it was intended to mimic the historic Women's March that took place back in January -- an event many of these Christian women took issue with.
They insist that the Women's March was a perfect example of what's wrong with feminism. Of particular offense were the pink "pussyhats" worn by many protestors at the march.
"If men are supposed to look at women as more than just sexual objects," one critic pointed out, "then why should women make female genitalia a focal point of their message?" "I want to be seen for who I am, not for my body parts," another insisted.
Feminism: The Christian Version
The women in attendance sought to promote a new brand of feminism, one based in faith and traditional values. In their view, women should embrace their "God-given roles" as wives and mothers and take a strong anti-abortion stance.
The desire to return to a unified Christian America was widely shared among participants at the prayer rally.
"We believe our nation was founded as a Christian nation. The enemy is trying to take it in another direction, not Christianity," said Linda Shebesta from Burleson, Texas, who traveled to Washington with three different generations of her family.
"We don't need to be empowered by marches and speeches," said another woman. "What we need is to be empowered in who we are as daughters of the living God."
The Future of Feminism
Clearly, not all women are comfortable under the umbrella of modern feminism. Many feel as if the movement's message became distorted somewhere along the way. They think feminists have lost sight of what is important.
"We're not fighting for women's rights. We're just fighting for our country to be unified" said one woman who travelled all the way from Alaska to attend. "We still love and honor men at the same time."
So, what are the chances that this Christian feminist movement takes off?
If you look at the numbers, the odds appear stacked against them. Roughly 500,000 women crowded the National Mall back in January for the Women's March the prayer rally drew only several thousand.
Whether the group will be successful in "converting" more women to their side is yet to be seen.
Would you consider joining?
62 comments
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Wendy
I would fight this movement because of their goal to "return to a unified Christian America." The US was not founded on Christianity. It should not be governed on Christianity. I would fight the establishment of any theocracy.
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John Maher
HEAR YE,HEAR YE, HEAR YE, YEAH WHAT the WORLD NEEDS NOW is MORE CHRISTIANITY, HAIL to the THIEF, ORANGUtRUMP the DOTAR !!!
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John D. Partin
I'll bet you're cute!
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Rev paul
I quite agree
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Dawn Pisturino
It was the British who built America, and yes, America was indeed built on the Christian foundations laid out by the British. America existed before it was a country. George Washington: "It is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God and to obey His will." Wendy, you need to go back to school.
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Diana
No this country was built to store European criminals and unwanted.
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Ron
No, Diana. You're thinking of Australia.
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Diana
I agree, this country was not founded on Christianity values, and should not be govern on such. Your forefathers supposedly left England, France Spain and other European countries because the could not practice their religion without fear of prosecution and death,
Both movements needs work, But strongly disagree with "“God-given roles” as wives and mothers and take a strong anti-abortion stance" I am more than this statement. To stay in this role means being subjected to being inferior, God never said that was our role, Man did, I am a pro choice and proud of it. This is my body and I will decide should I have a baby or not, Ask the person who made this statement are they against the death penalty/ If the answer yes, then they are not pro-life, You can bot be for life and death at the same time,
Men have a place to be honored, but honor as respect is not given it is earned, same goes for women, The speaker states be “What we need is to be empowered in who we are as daughters of the living God.” you did mot pay attention to the teaching of Jesus or read the book of Joel. God did not make us weak, inferior nor Her image too. We are strong, resilient, powerful, resourceful, and created in the Image of a God that will not allow us to be anything less. I love my Creator because I was given a mind to think for myself.
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Wendy
That anti-abortion stance takes some pretty strange twists back where I grew up in small town southeastern Missouri. Quite a few of the fundamentalist Christians consider "children born out of wedlock" to be punishment for the mother. Not the father, of course, because he was unfairly tempted, and that's the woman's fault. Always. Having an abortion isn't so much about preserving life as it is about accepting God's judgement and punishment by being subjected to this burden. There's a bit of controversy about interracial babies. Sometimes it's the punishment thing, but there's also the contingent that considers them to be abominations that should absolutely be aborted.
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Sharonlee
I agree with Wendy
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John Owens
Keep trying to rewrite history. Maybe you will convince yourselves.
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Willie
They are suffering from Stockholm Syndrome. They have been in captivity too long!
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Matthew McMahon
hahaha so true!!!
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Paul D Gilbert
I wouldn't join them but would agree with some of their points, like their critique of wearing pussyhats. I don't think we should ridicule or caricature them because they have a valid point of view like everyone else. Listening to all perspectives gives us a better chance of reaching understanding and just policy. I'm in favor of people having the opportunity to live a life they love, regardless of gender, but I disagree with some of what is advocated under the label of feminism. I also have a problem with the label itself because the word feminist sounds sexist to me no matter how many times people tell me it just means favoring equality. If that's what it means, why don't we call it gender equality or some other non-exclusive phrase. Am I the only one hung up on the terminolgy?
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Francine Crapuchettes
No, you are not. The word "feminism " does cast us aside. An us and them division. Respect for all or equal respect would sound better to me (that includes getting rid of name calling) . No I am not saying that I am there yet but that's where I want to get to.
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Chuck
The original Feminist movement (as with all other social justice movements in America) was "championed" by the same people.... Rockefeller, et al. In other words the old money families in America that are in fact closet Bolsheviks. These people have many negative goals for America, and seek to destroy it's Liberty and bring it, and us, under their control.
1) The U.S. Federal Reserve is a privately owned bank, owned by these families. They profit by printing our money, and in return receiving treasury bonds that collect interest. The interest in paid for through our income tax.
- So, goal 1 of feminism was finding a way to tax the other half of the population (women) by making it socially acceptable to send them to work...thereby increasing the banks profits 100%.
2) These people were also looking to create a new column of voters to support what would become modern Liberalism. Traditionally, women didn't vote, or voted in support of their husbands.
- So, goal 2 was to cancel out a large number of conservative traditional votes cast by Christian (and other) men in America, by the votes of their wives and other women.
3) These people were also looking to break up the family unit, and take control of the minds of our children. This is because the family unit as well as faith are two avenues these people do not have much sway on, and they wanted to begin eliminating it, as well as the male/female/child structure of the family itself.
- So, goal 3 was to get women out of the house and working, so that there was nobody at home to instill traditional values. The new mentors of the children became the public school system, ALSO run and founded by these rich Bolshevik families. (Board of Education founded by Rockefellers). And so, the children would receive the indoctrination desired by the controllers, minus the elements of faith naturally.
And today this has snowballed into the mess we now know. There has been created a great divide amongst men and women, and the family unit is dying fast, as is faith. And the cherry on top, they even convinced women it was "normal" to commit infanticide (abortion), and support the laws making it legal.
Because bear in mind, these wealthy elites (not just in America) are in fact Satanists. And the crème de la crème of human sacrifice is using the womb as the alter of sacrifice.
The same tactics have been used in exploiting minorities, homosexuals, etc. in pretending to "champion" their rights, but only exploiting them for the furtherance of Satanism. And, using almost primarily the Left in this country (Satanism = Left Hand Path), to do so.
If ever you wanted to know what Satan despises, pay attention to what he has his minions in this country attack regularly...... Christians, conservatives, men, family, heterosexual relationship/marriage, multiple children, patriotism, etc.
In other words, anything natural and organic.
“Get the minds of the women, as go the children, as will follow the men” –Adolph Hitler
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Wendy
People like you are exactly why women need rights. You should probably add "hate" and "misogyny" to your list of natural and organic things. Those seem to be things you approve of.
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Chuck
what hate and misogyny are you referring to exactly?
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Wendy
Women should stay in the home. Women should not be allowed to have personally fulfilling lives. Women should always support the opinions of her husband. The only proper world view is the one of Christianity as interpreted by Paul, so Pauline "Christianity". Everyone else worships Satan, and we hate Satan. Seriously, I grew up in that. I know it very well.
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Chuck
I think you missed the point. Women should be able to do whatever they want, obviously. However, I was stating why a group of rich social engineers bankrolled and pushed the feminist movement in America (and the West). To a point today, that people who choose to have a traditional family are demonized.
And that's how they win these things. Because anyone who questions their motives, must also be questioning women's choices and rights, and that is NOT the case.
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Amber
Sounds more like savatage of what feminism was rather than the goals of it. My understanding of it was, at least from a woman's perspective, was to have the freedom to make decisions for themselves, have a job and money of their own so they didn't have to depend on a man for the things they need for their own upkeep, ability to vote so women's voices could be heard in government too, etc.
Granted the wealthy classes have cash to push many movements in whatever direction they want it to go by paying enough people and organizations to redirect those movements, and certainly can pay enough media organizations and advertising agencies to push their agenda, but that doesn't take away that there was a need for women to be able to make choices for themselves according to their own needs.
Now, the satanist idea... that stumped me. Most of what you are attributing to satanism sounds more like the extreme depth of human failing. The truly twisted don't need a demon on their back or in their head to commit atrocities. They just need pushed in that direction by people who have no idea how easily some people can break simply by being treated horribly on a very regular bases.
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Chuck
Yes, sabotage indeed. I think we can all agree that women should be able to have a career, be treated equally and have access to anything a man does. But, that is not what the current movement is really about, because the good intended original ideas of feminism have been exploited for other goals. Unfortunately, people don't seem to see that, and go along with anything that gets added to the plate.
And again........ modern feminism, LGBTQ, etc. are being used for a specific purpose. The purpose is to isolate people, thereby compartmentalizing people. Because when people are part of a group by choice (family), it is much more difficult to influence them. When compartmentalized, they are easily trainable.
Abortion is a great example. If you went back in time 100 years and stated you thought abortion was a "right" and morally ok, people would call law enforcement and have you hospitalized for mental observation. However through social engineering in a slow pace, they have made it "normal" and attached it to feminism. We now have a double standard due to this social engineering.....abortion is ok, but if you were to kill a pregnant woman you would be charged with double homicide.
In the case of LGBTQ etc., they have used the cause to start sexualizing children at an early age through teaching "gender" at younger and younger ages, almost at the kindergarten level at this point. Sexualizing a child before age 8 destroys their creative ability and sense of individual character (according to psychology), making them....again, easily controllable as they age. So much of what gets through the cracks because it might be "offensive" to LGBTQ community would have once been categorized as child abuse.
And when does it end???............. California last week just passed a law making it legal to knowingly transmit HIV/AIDS! It was a Felony attempted murder charge, and is now equivelant to a parking ticket...WHY???....Because it was DISCRIMANATORY to single out the LGBTQ community with HIV/AIDS.....to include giving blood!!!!
The same legal team from the United Nations that got gay marriage passed are now working to essentially legalize pedophilia, and make it a "sexual identity"!!!
They want to use the same framework in the area of eugenics, using legal precedence of people being "sexless" or neuter so they can go ahead with things like cloning. As in, creating people with one gene of cow, make them sexless, so that they can be used for anything and don't have human rights!
So yes, I used the term Satanism with good and just cause.
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Frank
The examples of "Satanism" are many; *slavery; *wars fought for territory, wealth, resources; *genocidal holocaust of, Native Americans, Jews, Russians, Africans, Cambodians, Vietnamese; *race based mass imprisonment; *the oppression of the vulnerable by the powerful. Feminism is a response, an attempt to save and protect those who suffer as a result. Though fundamentalist Christians would label it so, feminism's target is not men but injustice of every kind. Much as the GOP labels Planned Parenthood in a most narrow, distorted view to deny its work providing general health care to men and women.
Eerily, the "Satanic" evils above are all the result of actions sponsored and led by men.
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Chuck
Youre absolutely right...... all the things you listed were made to pass by the SAME small group of wealthy evil men (not all men), who also bankroll the feminism movement. I know its a hard pill to swallow, but that is the case. Even though the intentions of those (most anyway) who claim to feminists are very well intentioned, it does not change the fact the movement is being used as a vehicle for other motives.
And the origins of "planned parenthood" go back to the British Eugenics Society, whos goal was racial and class purity (Hitler picked that ball up & ran with it). Hence why you find Planned Parenthood locations mainly in black, Hispanic and generally poor neighborhoods.
Here are some wonderful quotes by the founder of Planned Parenthood, Margaret Sanger...
On blacks, immigrants and indigents: "...human weeds,' 'reckless breeders,' 'spawning... human beings who never should have been born." Margaret Sanger, Pivot of Civilization, referring to immigrants and poor people On sterilization & racial purification: Sanger believed that, for the purpose of racial "purification," couples should be rewarded who chose sterilization. Birth Control in America, The Career of Margaret Sanger, by David Kennedy, p. 117, quoting a 1923 Sanger speech.
On the right of married couples to bear children: Couples should be required to submit applications to have a child, she wrote in her "Plan for Peace." Birth Control Review, April 1932
On the purpose of birth control: The purpose in promoting birth control was "to create a race of thoroughbreds," she wrote in the Birth Control Review, Nov. 1921 (p. 2)
On the rights of the handicapped and mentally ill, and racial minorities: "More children from the fit, less from the unfit -- that is the chief aim of birth control." Birth Control Review, May 1919, p. 12
On religious convictions regarding sex outside of marriage: "This book aims to answer the needs expressed in thousands on thousands of letters to me in the solution of marriage problems... Knowledge of sex truths frankly and plainly presented cannot possibly injure healthy, normal, young minds. Concealment, suppression, futile attempts to veil the unveilable - these work injury, as they seldom succeed and only render those who indulge in them ridiculous. For myself, I have full confidence in the cleanliness, the open-mindedness, the promise of the younger generation." Margaret Sanger, Happiness in Marriage (Bretano's, New York, 1927)
On the extermination of blacks: "We do not want word to go out that we want to exterminate the Negro population," she said, "if it ever occurs to any of their more rebellious members." Woman's Body, Woman's Right: A Social History of Birth Control in America, by Linda Gordon
On respecting the rights of the mentally ill: In her "Plan for Peace," Sanger outlined her strategy for eradication of those she deemed "feebleminded." Among the steps included in her evil scheme were immigration restrictions; compulsory sterilization; segregation to a lifetime of farm work; etc. Birth Control Review, April 1932, p. 107
On adultery: A woman's physical satisfaction was more important than any marriage vow, Sanger believed. Birth Control in America, p. 11
On marital sex: "The marriage bed is the most degenerating influence in the social order," Sanger said. (p. 23) [Quite the opposite of God's view on the matter: "Marriage is honorable in all, and the bed undefiled; but whoremongers and adulterers God will judge." (Hebrews 13:4)
On abortion: "Criminal' abortions arise from a perverted sex relationship under the stress of economic necessity, and their greatest frequency is among married women." The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.
On the YMCA and YWCA: "...brothels of the Spirit and morgues of Freedom!"), The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.
On the Catholic Church's view of contraception: "...enforce SUBJUGATION by TURNING WOMAN INTO A MERE INCUBATOR." The Woman Rebel - No Gods, No Masters, May 1914, Vol. 1, No. 3.
On motherhood: "I cannot refrain from saying that women must come to recognize there is some function of womanhood other than being a child-bearing machine." What Every Girl Should Know, by Margaret Sanger (Max Maisel, Publisher, 1915) [Jesus said: "Daughters of Jerusalem, weep... for your children. For, behold, the days are coming, in which they shall say, Blessed (happy) are the barren, and the wombs that never bare, and the breasts which never gave suck." (Luke 23:24)]
"The most merciful thing that a large family does to one of its infant members is to kill it." Margaret Sanger, Women and the New Race (Eugenics Publ. Co., 1920, 1923)
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H Delaine Smith
Amen!
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Vicky
Wow.
Natural and organic - Nature, right? God created all the beasts upon the Earth, so that would be natural and organic. Like those fish that change their sex, that's natural! Same sex relations between various animals, that's natural! Matriarchal societies in certain animal species, that's natural!
Or were you referring to man's definition of what's natural and organic?
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Chuck
Most of these fish/frogs are changing sex due to pollution. Specifically, Bisphenol-A leaking into rivers/lakes from plastic makers. Not natural. Also happens to be the same Bisphenol-A in the plastic used to package our food and water.....Hmmm
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Frank
Hi Chuck.. trying to sort through some contradictions in your thesis. First you say women were allowed to work to collect tax revenue from them. Later you say they were sent out to work by some conspirators to destroy traditional values. Which is true?
Also, you say public schools began with Rockefeller. Assuming your referencing John D. born in 1839. The problem with this part of your theory is that the first public school in America was English High School, Boston, Massachusetts. It opened in1635, 200 years before Rockefeller was born.
Appreciate your checking this out.
Thanks Chuck
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Chuck
Both are true.
Rockefeller founded the board of education, and openly said they weren't looking for thinkers, but people grateful to be molded by his hands.
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Richard A Poole
LOL I heard about people that believe that
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Brooke
I don’t agree with either! I have my own values and own beliefs!
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Chuck
Yes.....natural and organic. The natural law of the natural world. Not dictated by men, but by MOTHER nature. Whats interesting is that these rich elitest (men) socialists that push this creepier and ever creepier version of feminism/neuter sexuality are the same people pushing all other form of non-organic poison. They own the companies making the GMO food that is killing us slowly, they own the Pharma companies making the pills/vaccines wreaking havock on us, they are the ones who want everyone in large mega cities on not living in the country, they are the ones who want false BIG government (big brother). And isn't it funny how these same people fund the media, Hollywood, etc. that demonize anyone holding on to any sort of traditional or Christian value? Meanwhile, places like Hollywood are seathing with sexual deviants and pedophiles?
If our ancestors were to come back from the grave, they would disown us! The fact that some of the ridiculousness that passes off as "normal" these days, is testament to how it only takes a couple generations to "normalize" damn anything! Satanism refers to this as incrementalism or slow chenage as not to be noticed....we now call it "progressivism".
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Chuck
And by the way, the attack on motherhood by progressivism is a literal attack on mother nature. By male dominated Satanism.
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Carolyn Jean Evans
The pussy hats were in response to a president who thinks it is acceptable to force women to kiss him and grab them by the pussies if he wants. Human Beings, including women, should have a say as to who is allowed to touch them and how. If he tried it with me, he would get backhanded. No one touches me without my permission...that is assault, and I will strike back.
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Chuck
Then, why didn't they come out with these hats while Clinton President? Whatever one thinks of Trump, how is it that people who did not vote for him would have had no problem whatsoever with yet another Clinton??? Bill Clinton would be a registered sex offender if not for his political ties, and Hillary has settled outside of court with 2 female interns. Soooo....... there it is.
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Lisette
Chuck, I am sorry you are suffering from paranoia and delusional beliefs in these convoluted conspiracy theories. Did you know we now have effective medication for that?
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Chuck
I actually am aware of that. I'm a mental health/substance abuse counselor in New York. What's interesting, is I see a good deal of women clients who are totally lost..... typically, they graduate college, move to NYC, get some corporate job and spend the rest of their time trying to be "trendy". Over time, they start feeling isolated, meaningless and jaded.
And it almost always ends the same...... they finally realize they WAY overdid it with the millennial feminism nonsense...or....they are older feminists, and approaching 40 they realize they have nobody, and start to fall apart. In most cases, they go back to wherever they are from and/or move to upstate New York to find some happy middle ground.
School and media taught them that men, family, tradition were "bad", and they paid the price for it. The truth is, there is a middle ground, but most people lean way too far to either end of the spectrum.
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Fred V Miller Captain Retired
Chuck I am well into my ninties and associate myself with a different time. I returned home in t 1946, WWII, had been in the service at 17 came hgome and married a girl who had not graduated high school when we met. I never entered into sex with any one else. I was the product of a jock in school and placed girls on a pedicil. We had a long marrage and fathered tyogether seven children. We planed a large family together. I never knew any other female and our bound lasted for sixty years until her passing. I live now in the past. Our family is a strong family and has strong feeling's for country. Our males have served in the military at all times of our cpountry's need. Our family comes from all walks of life. I never loved any one other than my wife. Let me come to the point I have had a good life and I have no desire to force my beliefs on any oine. I am a Christain and belive that what we are are as a nation is founded on these belie3fs. I do believe that our focas together has all ways been Couuntry, Family and God. We lost one of sons he was 18, my quiete loving wife was my support. My wife naver wanted to anything other than a wife and mother. Now the removal of family structure has given rise to the competion between the sexs. My daughters are are all strong women who have been affected by the conflict. I would not endorse or excchange my relationship, or the path we traveled for the most active female of today. It is what it is and they will get what they sew, a dark time in the later stages of their life and alone in a room. I can see no other way, I fell for them. Fred V Miller Sr.
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dotwilson@comcast.net
I am all for the feminist movement.
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Chuck
The woman who has organized most of these feminist protests etc. (her name escapes me) once made a statement to the effect of... "gender is an unimportant classification in our society". So then, she promptly organizes "women's marches".....LOL...... the cognitive dissonance in our society is spell-binding!!
Much the same as only white people are racist, and cannot accuse anyone else of racism. And only Christians are bad hateful people, meanwhile Islamic Sharia law gets a pass, right?
This country and world is in serious intellectual peril.
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Bill Fox
I've watched feminism eat away at the fabric of my family. It's very unattractive to some men. If women are happy being feminist then they will be feminists. I'm sure there are plenty of feminized men available for the feminists that are not lesbians.
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Frank
My Mother, an obedient Catholic, had 14 children, and struggled from dawn to well into the night to care for all of us. She had no time to develop her talents, writing, story telling, or any interests outside of being a wife and mother. As first born, (1948), and the first of 11 sons, I, (and my brothers), grew up being groomed for college. College was deemed less important for my sisters. During my Catholic high school years, 1963 -1967, the idea of women "taking jobs from men," was a matter of debate. Women were overwhelmingly expected to vote as their husbands did. Like a 'team' where the husband was captain. Many women did not have a drivers license. My mother got her license when she was 54.
At some point Mary the Rock, as her sons had dubbed her, began to revolt against the brainless manipulation and coercion of the church. She became a proponent of birth control and smaller families. She refuted the ideas of the male priesthood whose alcohol soaked, non-reality based pronouncements on all things to do with married life and child rearing made zero sense. There was never any doubt that the Catholic church expected total obedience from their women, nuns and wives of their male parishioners.
In college women were the backbone of the anti Vietnam War movements. They were passionate in their commitment to stop American men from being killed and from killing innocent Vietnamese peasants.
I was upset when the first women Troopers came through the State Police Academy class just behind mine. I did not want to see women in the military. We men were designed to play the heroic roles that were becoming diluted by women, I thought. I learned, but too slowly.
But incredibly strong women met the opposition head on and continue to do so today. No longer are hypocritical clergy going to order women to be subservient to husbands or any other men in positions of authority.
Mary the "Rock" would be upset if she had lived to see Trump, a misogynist abuser of women, white supremacist, crass, immoral pretender, occupying the White House. She would be so very disappointed that Trump garnered 54% of white women's votes and conversely proud of the overwhelming support for Clinton by women of color.
Finally, she would have been optimistic today, secure in the knowledge that Feminism is fighting for the huge numbers of the oppressed, the weak, the hungry and the sick. Her optimism has been manifested in the strong, brave women in the House and Senate and in the "Women's March" which brought millions of women, and men, into the streets to reclaim the United States of America for those who believe in Justice.
Feminists, Christian, Jew, Muslim, Buddhist, Atheist, et al, are at the vanguard, willing to be first over the barricades. God or the Spirit of the Universe, Bless them, for they have much to do and they are coming.
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Chuck
So, Mary the Rock would have no problem with the Clintons? Bill Clinton is a serial rapist. Hillary has settled out of court with 3 female interns for sexual misconduct. And wait until these pedophile rings get linked to the Clinton Foundation...its coming.
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ValerieH
I’ve read a few books on the history of the women’s movement. Women’s Liberation Movement is one of the earlier names. The movement started in the 1800’s and was inspired by the Iroquois because those women had their own rights in the tribe. I can assure you, they fought tooth and nail for every gain. There was no conspiracy at the seats of power to push this through. Women protested, were jailed, went on hunger strikes and were force fed in jail. It took 50 years to get the vote. The more radical women in the 60’s and 70’s were the ones that got so many laws and policies changed. Ask the right wing women if they want the laws repealed back to the 1950’s! The 1964 civil rights law included “sex” as a joke by a racist congressman in order to make the bill fail. Right now the mainstream form of feminism is individualist. Regardless of how degrading it is, if she says it’s empowering, it’s feminism. This #metoo campaign shows us that harassment and rape have nothing to do with how you “identify”. Women are targeted based on nothing other than our biology. That’s a class issue. I’m still inspired by the Iroquois women. Our Judeo-Christian culture says that women and children are the property of the man. Most of those laws have been changed but the mindset is still there. In Native American culture, no person could be owned. Women want full bodily autonomy. That’s what feminism means to me.
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Frank
Well stated.
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Chuck
Yes, sabotage indeed is what has become of original feminism. I think we can all agree that women should be able to have a career, be treated equally, vote and have access to anything a man does. But, that is not what the current movement is really about, because the good intended original ideas of feminism have been exploited for other goals. Unfortunately, people don't seem to see that, and go along with anything that gets added to the plate.
And again........ modern feminism, LGBTQ, etc. are being used for a specific purpose. The purpose is to isolate people, thereby compartmentalizing people. Because when people are part of a group by choice (family), it is much more difficult to influence them. When compartmentalized, they are easily trainable.
Abortion is a great example. If you went back in time 100 years and stated you thought abortion was a "right" and morally ok, people would call law enforcement and have you hospitalized for mental observation. However through social engineering in a slow pace, they have made it "normal" and attached it to feminism. We now have a double standard due to this social engineering.....abortion is ok, but if you were to kill a pregnant woman you would be charged with double homicide.
In the case of LGBTQ etc., they have used the cause to start sexualizing children at an early age through teaching "gender" at younger and younger ages, almost at the kindergarten level at this point. Sexualizing a child before age 8 destroys their creative ability and sense of individual character (according to psychology), making them....again, easily controllable as they age. So much of what gets through the cracks because it might be "offensive" to LGBTQ community would have once been categorized as child abuse.
And when does it end???............. California last week just passed a law making it legal to knowingly transmit HIV/AIDS! It was a Felony attempted murder charge, and is now equivelant to a parking ticket...WHY???....Because it was DISCRIMANATORY to single out the LGBTQ community with HIV/AIDS.....to include giving blood!!!!
The same legal team from the United Nations that got gay marriage passed are now working to essentially legalize pedophilia, and make it a "sexual identity"!!!
They want to use the same framework in the area of eugenics, using legal precedence of people being "sexless" or neuter so they can go ahead with things like cloning. As in, creating people with one gene of cow, make them sexless, so that they can be used for anything and don't have human rights!
So yes, I used the term Satanism with good and just cause.
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Vivian T Harris
If better Christians was the goal I would be all for it. I think we should include the men in being better Christians too.
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Maddie
I facilitate several spiritual circles with members who have as diverse ideas as the ones expressed above. I think that when people discuss these potentially divisive issues it is much better done face to face. It is far more difficult to belittle or dismiss someone's idea when you're looking them in the eye, even if you disagree with them. If we want peace and prosperity for all we had better figure out how to compromise. Someone mentioned the Iroquois and their influence on the women's movement. You would have to know the Great Law of Peace to completely understand the reasoning for the balance of power between men and women and I can't share all that here. However, I can say that The Peacemaker told the people "If you want peace you must decide, do you want to be right or do you want to be fair?" Because everybody thinks they're right. Right? The Haudenosaunee (Iroquois) believe that The Great Law of Peace is the God given formula for world peace and The Peacemaker is a messenger from The Creator, akin to Jesus. They managed to live in peace for over a thousand years. Never has that been achieved in all of Western "Civilization." P.S. The U. S. Constitution is based on The Iroquois Confederacy's democratic structures, not the Greeks. Well except for that part where only land owning men get to vote. It would be nice to discuss face to face if ULC ever has a convention.
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Dawn Pisturino
I shaved my head in support of the women's movement in 1975. But the women's movement now is a joke. The so-called "feminists" now are a bunch of anti-social whackos who don't have the capacity to relate to others in a normal and healthy way. The feminist movement is done.
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Vince Nichols
Yes, that record-breakingly-huge group of women marching together in solidarity is comprised of anti-social people. Let that sink in for a second...
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Vince Nichols
If I was at that rally, the second an anti-feminist woman took to the mic, I'd just yell "shut the hell up, you chattel!" and she'd have to either obey me or lose all her cred as an anti-feminist and as a Christian.
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Wendy
Dude, that's mean and funny. Funny because it's funny. But mean because my mom is one of those women stuck in that mindset, and it's heartbreaking at times to see how the pastor of her church manipulates, degrades, and psychologically abuses women.
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Chuck
Russia is a great example of how deterioration of the family was destroying the country. Communism pushed the idea of the family being unimportant, and the parents of children letting the State take control of their upbringing. Communism also promoted the idea of women being more concerned with serving the State than having family. What was the result??......
The result was people isolating themselves, large upswing in alcoholism/drug use, severe degradation of culture, increased crime and eventually a declining population.
So, Putin started a movement to bring the family and Christianity back as the focus of Russian life, and the country is no longer on life support, and doing quite well. We should take something from that example.
And by the way, that is why the Left in America have been demonizing Russia lately, because they cant stand the family/Christian turn of events. They also don't like the fact that Russia is a shining example of how Socialism does NOT work.
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Pat
This is a ridiculous argument. ALL are initially created equal. As with men, if a woman is the most qualified to make a living for the family let it be so. If she decides that her role is that of a single person, with or without children, let it be so. If she feels her life path is that of a wife and mother, let it be so. The only way to achieve equality is to stop the labeling and pigeon holing.
These women are a joke.... just more of the same old brainwashed "Christians"! Smh :(
I agree with Kim .we were born different we are not men are we are not made to doem job im againg femminist
Agree.
@Katelynne Obviously you are a brainwashed “feminist” then?!
Exactly
I'm definitely against feminism. Many feminist have completely perverted this movement into something that is awful and against God by being against men, family and children. The Christian Version of Feminism is exactly what we need and what I would love to be apart of.
With God's grace, let me join you, Selena.
The kind who make good mothers and teachers, friends, nurses, sisters, and co-workers.