The Bible teaches forgiveness, understanding, and turning the other cheek.
But are there limits to Jesus's love? How should Christianity treat people who do deplorable things?
That's part of the debate stirred up by embattled music artist Kanye West, who is back in the headlines after what many deemed a bizarre and troubling interview with commentator Alex Jones.
Appearing with a black mask over his face and a copy of the Bible placed on the desk before him, Kanye (who now goes by just "Ye"), doubled down on the antisemitic statements that have caused his business empire to come crashing down in a matter of months.
He proceeded to set the internet on fire with a series of shocking claims about one of history's most notoriously evil groups.
So, what did he say? How does he use the Bible to defend these beliefs? And what do religious leaders make of Kanye's biblical interpretations?
Praising Nazis and Hitler
The most disturbing excerpts of the recent interview came when Kanye repeatedly praised the Nazis and Hitler.
Kanye responded to Jones's statement that "the Nazis were thugs," saying "we gotta stop dissing the Nazis all the time."
He went on to say that Jesus teaches that we should "love everyone" and that "every human being has something of value they brought to the table, especially Hitler."
Kanye said he "doesn't like the word 'evil' next to 'Nazis'" and explained that "I love Jewish people. But I also love Nazis."
When prompted by Jones to clarify his stance, a clear opportunity to denounce the Nazi leader, Kanye instead doubled down, saying "there's a lot of things I love about Hitler."
The once-beloved rapper's comments were shocking to many people, drawing widespread criticism.
Elon Musk Gets Involved
Following the InfoWars interview, Kanye tweeted "Jesus is King" along with a reference to Elon Musk and Twitter's public commitment to free speech.
Elon responded, writing that "Jesus taught love, kindness and forgiveness. I used to think that turning the other cheek was weak & foolish, but I was the fool for not appreciating its profound wisdom."
Kanye's Twitter account was later suspended after he tweeted an offensive symbol that combined the Star of David with a Swastika.
Inspired By The Bible
How did we get here?
Kanye West has embraced his spiritual side in recent years – hosting worship services, referencing the Bible in interviews, and even making gospel music (he released an album titled "Jesus is King" in 2019).
Initially, church leaders were thrilled to have a spokesperson for the faith of his pedigree and celebrity.
However, as Kanye has begun to spread antisemitic messages over the past several months, pastors that once stood by his side are now distancing themselves – and questioning his Biblical conclusions.
Kanye has repeatedly defended his beliefs on the grounds that Jesus "loves everyone." The insinuation from his latest rant appears to be: why should the Nazis be excluded from that love?
Religious Leaders Speak Out
Religious leaders, on the other hand, don't quite see things the same way. Nor do they view him as an ideal spokesperson for Christianity.
Among these critics is Pastor Michael J.T. Fisher, of the Greater Zion Church Family in Compton. Referring to Kanye, Fisher said, “the church needs to do a better job in discipling these celebrities when they become interested in the teachings of Jesus Christ,” Fisher said.
The pastor continued:
“My concern isn’t that he’s imperfect, because we’re all imperfect. But the message has got to be solid. So bringing people to Christ through his music — great. But we have to work on the message he’s spewing out when the track stops, because it’s counterproductive. It goes against the things he’s singing about, and it goes against the God he says he represents.”
Pastor Jamal Bryant of Atlanta's New Birth Missionary Baptist Church (who has also appeared with Kanye in the past), voiced similar concerns about the direction the artist is headed in.
“I think he needs to come out of a public space, go into intensive therapy and meet with pastors for prayer,” Bryant said. “You can’t heal in public.”
Would Jesus Love Nazis?
Many Twitter users voiced similar sentiments following the stunning InfoWars interview.
However, some people defended Kanye's statements, arguing that his biblical argument was simply being misunderstood.
What is your reaction? Do the Bible's teachings mean we should love everyone, no matter how evil? Or is that a bridge too far?
87 comments
-
Bill Parsons
Kanye, is just another former "big star" that has fallen hard. So, what better way to get your name back on people's lips again...be controversial, in this case antisemitic. He certainly knows that his words about God are untruthful because was once a strong believer in Christ. Beyond these word, I won't further dignify his absurdity for attention.
-
Wilberta M. Berry
I have never read anywhere in the Bible where Jesus says "love evil" or Satan. Hitler who tried to eradicate an entire group of people and the Nazis who helped him are a different kind of "sinner". I don't think Jesus would have included loving people who are actively creating genocide in his Sermon on the Mount
-
Sandra A Rasmussen
Somewhere in Kanye’s mind, a switch has tripped-he has become fanatical in the last couple of years, trying to run for president, harassing his ex-wife and Pete, ranting and raving enough to have Balenciaga and others to cancel their contracts with him, and now this weird fuckery-he’s clearly gone mad! He definitely need some extensive therapy
-
Sandra A Rasmussen
Ever since Kim Kardashian separated from Kanye, it seems that somewhere in his mind, a switch has flipped-he single-handedly has lost many accounts and a lot of money because of his mouth and weird ramblings on He wants to try to run again for president and now this BS? He needs extensive therapy-and a reality check!
-
Steven Ferrell
You can love the person as Christ loved everyone, but you do not have to love the sin or crimes they may commit.
-
Lionheart
Zeus loves everyone. Have a wonderful 🎄 Zeusmas 🎄this holiday season everyone.
🎅🏼♥️
-
Rev Ned
Ye, or whatever he calls himself this week, IMHO, has successfully made the break with reality. Furthermore, IMHO, if people would stop talking about him, and for that matter 45, as if they mattered, they would shrivel up and disappear, never to trouble anyone again.
-
Kandi Allison Kane
What happens when you ask God for forgiveness? Regardless of how terrible the sin ~ is a person not forgiven if they ask Jesus to forgive them? Obviously there is a choice - to ask for forgiveness. The unbeliever will most likely not benefit from this unconditional forgiveness. No one feels comfortable thinking that people who committed heinous crimes will ever go to heaven. My personal feeling is - forgiveness is between an individual and God - and if they ask for forgiveness and are granted entry into heaven - the soul which will live in heaven would be completely unrecognizable - and present as energy, and that energy would be love.
-
Donald Richard Starns
If you follow the Christian religion, you have to believe that your god had the German state kill millions of people, for some mysterious reason. Exactly who does any forgiveness apply to, the instigator, or his holy tools?
-
John P Maher
HEY PASTOR PAUL, DID JESUS TELL YOU THAT or SOME B S SCRIPTURE ???
-
John P Maher
I HAVE NOT SPOKEN to OR WITH JESUS FOREVER, THE TREE PHONE in THE PARK HAS BEEN OUT of ORDER THAT L O N G,, ASKKK YE-HO !
-
Pastor Paul
I must say this is disturbing. While I do agree that we should love everyone and forgive them just as we ask forgiveness (Matthew 6: 9-13); I don't agree with praising Hitler. Again, while I do believe that people aren't ALL bad and yes they can have prolific in thoughts (even people like Hitler or Manson); you can't sing praises when they never changed. Now, Saul who once persecuted Christians did change and became Paul. While he did horrible things, he turned his life around. God changed his heart but not Hitler nor Manson. Kanye has gone off the deep end with his thinking. Someone needs to rein him back. Let's all pray for him and love him. He is very outspoken and God can use him.
-
Ronaldo
Jesus knew that not everyone wanted to hear His message so, rather than trying to love them anyway, He specifically told his followers that, should they run across anyone who did not want to hear the Word, to knock the dust off their sandals and leave. He also told them to beware of those who would persecute them because of Him, but did not say to love them.
-
Mario Andrés Lopez
Rev. Mario López: The Bible teaches that Jesus loves the sinner and NOT THE SIN" perhaps this part is what "YE" should understand, because it is one thing to love the person and another is to believe that their sin, their acts and their barbarism should be understood , we love the sinner by mercy of God, but the law of men and the justice that comes from God is the one who judges him, before God he will stand and his accuser will have in his hands the acts he committed, God in his mercy will judge and if there is true repentance. he will forgive him, but we don't know that, so talking about loving men is one thing and justifying his acts, based on that love that Jesus teaches, is something else totally wrong
-
Tyler
It's funny how people say he doesn't represent Christianity or Jesus, Jesus never mentioned a religion, his only teaching was love, forgiveness, understanding, not to pass judgment and faith, people put words in Jesus's mouth and twist the story to fit their narrative, you don't know what Jesus thinks about modern situations, we only know his message he left, and it says nothing about a religious group, and yes God loves Hitler God wants to redeem all his children do I think Hitler made it to heaven "no" but even I don't know that, a lot to be said on the matter but I'm not to decide who get into heaven or who represents Christianity, who's to say kanye loves the life God created or the policies Hitler had that was never mentioned the two are very different, and America helped put Hitler in power anyway he was on the cover of time magazine, stop putting words in Jesus's mouth you don't know some can't see past their own interpretation of the Bible and it's annoying.
-
Rev. B
Jesus never mentioned a religion by name, but he did say "on this rock I will build my church". Church implies religion. no?
-
-
Simon Egan
“If someone in the West says, in slightly more contemporary language: 'Hitler was a great man!' the shock of this will cause the hearer to react, instantly. In some people it will make them realise for the first time what it is like to hear such a statement, what the people who used to say this were like. It will also cause some to realise that, perhaps, the question as to Hitler's greatness or otherwise is irrelevant to their own situation. It will make some realise that they are obsessed by this 'greatness' or otherwise, revealing how their opinions can be triggered by the use of a phrase. In some it will show how almost any sequence of words can be used to 'programme' people and to cause 'belief or 'opposition’”- from Learning How to Learn, by Idries Shah, page 266. In the 80s Lemmy from Motörhead used the phrase‘Hitler was a great man’ and was similarly accused of antisemitism, rather than being a student of Sufi philosophy. Also the swastika in a Star of David symbol is part of Raelian belief, and in no way anti semitic. I’m not defending any of Ye’s actual antisemitic statements, but I believe that it’s important to understand any wider possible context.
-
Nonnye Lynn Lucky
Loving your enemies Does not mean condoning everything they do, allowing them to hurt other, and commit atrocities. You do not have to love or hate a snake but you do have to know that snakes bite and kill and it is best to take action to prevent this from happening. Also, if you want to be literal: the verse that says to love you enemies, turn the other check, let them have you coat. . . Doesn't say you have to tolerate the second slap, a punch in the gut or someone attempting to kill you. West comes across as if he thinks the Biblical statement means you cannot condemn those who commit atrocities, hold them accountable or demand justice for their crimes. He seems to think love, compassion can exist without responsibility and justice. All 4 of those actions and feelings ONLY exist together. Otherwise, you only have revenge and perversion.
-
Rev Frankie PG
As I studied more of the Holy Word, especially the creation, the more I understood to make it a lamp upon my feet and a light onto my path. With the creation of the Holy Bible in itself being controversial (ie- who, why and how were the decisions made of what goes into the Bible), among the scriptures themselves there are conflicts. The overall message of Jesus is to fill yourself and exercise the Fruits of The Spirit but beware when evil is among you. In the book of John, Jesus saw the evildoers within the church and ordered it to be destroyed, with he himself overturning tables. In the book of Luke he walks with the devil and becomes tempted but ultimately declines the temptation. Love (one of the Fruits of The Spirit) is to be shared amongst all, whether you agree with them or not. No where, in the entire Bible, does it say you have to, or even must, support them. Just because someone was a Nazi doesn't mean that they agreed with the decisions Hitler was demanding. They too could've had it in their heart to defy the commands and assist the perceived enemies (aka- traitor). As for Hitler himself loving his creativity can be good, not supporting him because of the stances he took is understandable. Don't deny a person because you perceive them as evil, rather look for the good and love them for that.
-
John P Maher
I DO NOT BELIEVE N A Z I s EXISTED in THE TIME of JESUS, BUTT THE ROMANS DID, KAN YE FARTs THRU HIS EARS !
-
Chris
Luke 6:35 does say to love your enemies. However, as with so many others who claim to be Christian he's just spouting texts without actually trying to lead by example. Loving your enemies doesn't mean you excuse what they do or have done, only that you forgive them for it. Nothing says you have to associate with them or take them to dinner parties or even listen to them.
-
Richard Darwin Richards
He is correct in saying that Jesus loves everyone. We need forgiveness for starting the war in Ukraine that is resulting in the deaths of thousands of innocent people. We need forgiveness for creating viruses in labs that "escape" and kill millions of people. Jesus, please forgive us o our sins and help us to sin no more!
-
Nicholas J Page
This man needs urgent help.I am Bi Polar but I do not and never made anti semetic comments same as about black people He tries to court publicity about everything and everybody.Read every word in the bible
-
Colleen McAllister
Ye's mental illness does nothing to absolve him of the sins of racism and hatred. He is filled with hatred and a need to be superior; he is not. I pray for him but fear that it will not change anything as he seems to prefer being so miserable.
I realize that his mother's unfortunate death changed him, but not for the better. How sad she would be to see how he has become.
-
Daniel Gray
All the people in this thread attacking West...have you never heard of the statement "love the sinner, hate the sin"? James 1:27-Malachi 1:3; Revelation 2:6; 2 Peter 3:9-First John 4:8–9, 1 Peter 2:17, 1 Timothy 2:1, James 1:15, Ephesians 4:15
-
Douglas Robert Spindler
@Dr. Zerpersande You stated, "Kanye is a looney, talentless hack so who cares what he thinks about anything?" Answer: There are a lot of people. I'm sure he's made more money and is far more famous then you will every will be. He'd one of the most influential hip hop artists and producers of the early 21st century. And he's a fashion designer. What have accomplished in your life?
-
Lionheart
Just words written in a book by whoever wrote them, years after the suggested event. I wonder if any of it was true? 🤷🏼
🦁❤️
-
Daniel Gray
the same thing can be said about any religion from Pagan to Christian, so whats your point?
-
Lionheart
All you are doing us quoting references to what some authors have said in a book, so what’s your point?
Would you like me to quote some words from the Harry Potter series of books? I won’t, because there’s no point. 🤷🏼
🦁❤️
-
Ronaldo
No one, including the author, has claimed that the Potter books have anything to do with an organized religion, or a mythology, for that matter. You could have the same results quoting a page from a dictionary.
-
Rev. B
Yes! And that same quoted page from a dictionary would still be more useful than anything from an organized religion. At least the dictionary quote would be true.
-
Lionheart
Rev B, you are soooo right. 👏
🦁♥️
-
Daniel Gray
So you are admitting that you have nothing to refute what I said? good to know.
-
Rev. B
I diagree.
-
Daniel Gray
have a problem with the facts do you? so what you are saying is that not one religious book or teaching is worth anything. So then the question bodes...why are you here on a site that talks about religion and why use the title Rev if you dont believe in one?
-
Rev. B
I disagree.
-
Daniel Gray
and it shows that nobody but you seems to want to fight the reality and facts of the statement. So disagree all you want but it wont change anything
-
Rev. B
I disagree.
-
Daniel Gray
you have been proved wrong and constantly complaining with the same line of "I disagree" instead of using anything of substance to back you up, clearly shows you have lost the argument
-
Rev. B
Daniel my friend, look back up. I was responding to what Ronaldo said, NOT YOU. I was never speaking to anything you wrote until you attacked me directly. It only goes to show that you are looking for a fight.
What was the statement you thought I was responding to?
-
-
-
-
-
-
-
Dr. Zerpersande, NSC
Kanye is a looney, talentless hack so who cares what he thinks about anything?
-
Megan Smith
I think instead of bringing up Love he should focus on Forgiveness..alot of people don't have the capacity to understand Love unconditionally..people are conditioned and have to really understand LOVE!! Most cant Love the way GOD loves..most dont even really have a relationship with Christ or understand what he represents..Kayne is on to something..however it seems fake..esp when your wearing a mask and dont even want to show your face..I just dont know how sincere he really is..does he tithe his millions..go to church? Is he willing to give all he has to the poor to follow christ..I think he needs more guidance and spirtual growth..and btw the NAZI were people too...they deserve love but you cant really love something unless you can forgive them!!
-
Canadian Yankee
If one believes in the Bible it requires on to give up sin, to be penatent and not do it again and at that time they can be forgiven by God. I dont believe God will as more of me than he is will to do for himself.
-
Lionheart
And if one doesn’t believe in this fictional book, we can go on living a normal life. 🤷🏼
🦁❤️
-
-
Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson
Herr West is a Chri$tian in my view.
-
Daniel Gray
And you are so wrong. You do know that the Nazi' you are implying West to be, were followers of Thor and Odin? But hey, dont let that little factoid get in the way of you attacking Christians.
-
Chris
Hitler also mandated daily prayer in school and claimed to be Christian. And just like Christianity over the centuries he took pagan symbols and used them to suit his own needs and wants. But hey, don't let that little factoid get in the way of you attacking others.
-
Daniel Gray
Um sorry but no he didnt. And you got it right in one, he claimed to be RELIGIOUS as he and everyone in his inner circle were followers of Odin and Thor, but he NEVER claimed to be Christian....you really check history before trying to post such falsehoods about this madman.
So lets educate you, look up Wewelsburg castle/SS-Schule Haus Wewelsburg and you can see how wrong your information you posted here actually is
-
JT of the plains
With all due respect, Adolph Hitler did claim to be a Christian and claimed his movement to be Christian. I do not believe he actually was a Christian, but that was his claim. In 1928 Hitler said (in German, but translated here) quoting: "We have different faiths in Germany, but we are one: which faith conquers the other, that is not the question, rather whether Christianity stands or falls, that is the question! Today we see before us the inheritance of the people, touching everything. There is no then into which any piece of his heaven is pointed. We will never allow a religious quarrel to arise in this movement, we say rather: the church may educate the parties to religious service, we educate them to fight and to preserve its world view and its foundations! We are convinced that when Christ descends on earth today, that he will not refuse blessings to those who strive to put Christianity into practice, to remove mutual self-help, class struggle, and status arrogance, we will strive, strive to make it clear to everyone that it's a shame not wanting to see the need after we're trying to suppress German culture being dragged down. We do not tolerate anyone in our ranks who offends the ideas of Christianity, who stands up to a dissident, fights him, or provokes himself as a hereditary enemy of Christianity. This movement of ours is actually Christian."--Adolph Hitler, 1928
-
Daniel Gray
With All due respect, you can say whatever you want, but in his autobiography Mein kampf, he clearly states he is not and never has been christian. So who do we believe, your claim with no proof of his own words?
-
-
-
-
Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson
As I have been reading history for the better part of 60 years, might have an intracranial database of sufficient size.
Hitler and the other members of the Nazi high command were Catholics. His closest advisors, like Himmler, were Bavarian Catholic.
They saw the utility of using the pagan imagery in their ceremonials. But how much accuracy can one expect from folks who misunderstood that Aryan means Iranian.
Pagans, Freemasons, and other who were not in line with Party Thought were as in danger as the Nazi designated Untermensch such as Jews, Gypsies, Homosexuals, Slavs, Blacks, the mentally or physically defective...
Margaret Sanger, founder of Planned Parenthood was in lockstep with Nazi Eugenics ideas.
I had men and women of my grandparents' generation involved across the broad spectrum fighting German Nazism, Italian Fascism and Imperial Japanese Bushido.
I grew up in a huge extended family in western New England. We knew when to call a turd a turd, and not couch it in polite terms.
If Mr. West is a Chri$tian who wants to "LOVE" Nazis...then he is the same sort of Chri$tian as Benny Hinn, Pat Roberson, Jimmy Swaggart, Joel Osten, Franklin Graham and the ilk.
I will stay with my religion where the gods and goddesses expect me to take the Gifts of Life, Mind and Will, and use them to build a life worthy of Their interest as I took my first breath.
-
Daniel Gray
and I guess you were reading the revised history. Why do you think they revered the "hammer of Thor" in their religion? You cant be Christian and revere a pagan religions symbolism
-
-
Douglas Robert Spindler
@Daniel Gray There's more to your factoid. As success was coming to Hitler, he could not believe it. While Hitler was not religious, every victory was considered by Hitler and many Christians to be a sign from God that Hitler was doing Gods work on Earth. To many Christian Germans, other European Christians and some American Christians Hitler was sent by God.
-
Daniel Gray
Nice attempt to blow smoke and mirrors but it wont work. chris claimed hitler was christian, and now you are saying he wasnt? Is it because Chris got caught posting a myth?
-
Douglas Robert Spindler
@Daniel Gray It all depends on what part of your life you are referring. Hitler was raised a Christian as most people at that time. We know in the early 1930s Hitler was Lutheran. But then as most people today as he grew older he no longer believed in the Christian religion. He still had a relationship with God. There were over 100 assassination attempts on Hitler's life, which he survived every one, Hitler believed it was God's divine intervention that saved him. In that sense he was religious.
-
Rev. B
Wait. People can change religions? I always thought their prior deity would make you sit in the fiery corner for that. Does your new deity protect you? What if your new deity is not as powerful as your old one? There is way too much to take into account. That's why I don't believe in magic. That, and the fact that magic doesn't exist.
-
Douglas Robert Spindler
@Rev. B People change religions all of the time... Some change as often as cars or spouses. Sure they are going to go to hell, but that's in the next life. Might as well live it up and this life before having to spend entirety with God or the devil with God being much worse.
-
Rev. B
Wait. Hell exists? Is that something you can prove or is it just something you read in an old book written by a bronze-age goatherder trying to explain why the sun goes up and down?
-
-
Daniel Gray
Sorry but no. While Hitlers mother was a Catholic, his father was was religiously skeptical and anticlerical and Hitler was never brought up in the catholic religion. At that time the Man was the head of the house and what he said was pretty much law in the home. So explain to me just how if the father said he was not religious and didnt want his children being brought up as religious until they because of age and then could make their own decisions, how exactly was Hitler a Catholic? The ONLY thing Alosis Hitler did was allow his children to be baptized, nothing more. Alosis was far closer to being an Agnostic/Religious Epistemology. I mean how else are you supposed to understand how he became the vile monster he was unless you know his history?
-
Douglas Robert Spindler
@Daniel Gray Almost all Germans were Christian during Hitler's youth. His father died when he was 13 and his mother who died 5 years later was very religious. Hitler was well aware and surrounded by Christians and the Christian religion. What you missing is Hitler's belief he had God's approval each time he survived an assassination attempt. There were over 100 assassinations attempts on Hitler's life and he survived everyone, sometimes narrowly which Hitler attributed to divine intervention. You've got to admit surviving 100 assassination attempts is against all odds. God must have been protecting Hitler.
As Hitler invaded successfully invaded countries this was another sign form God to Hitler he had God's approval. And the German Christians saw it the same way. God was on Hitler's and Germany's side. Even the Catholic church and the Pope felt God was guiding Hitler.
-
Daniel Gray
wrong again. My great grandfather came from Eppigen Germany and entered the US via Ellis Island and that was right before WW2 and even he stated that not everyone nor even most Germans were Catholic or even Christian for that matter. Now who exactly are we supposed to believe, a man and his family who actually LIVED in Germany before Hitler became Chancellor, or your claim? Personally I would much rather listen to the people who lived through this then some other claim. And since he followed Thor and Odin (how else do you think his military and the SS followed the same religion) of course he would consider that he survived the attempts because of Divine intervention. If you look Odin and Thor were pagan GODS. And just because he said it was a sign from God, how are you so sure that he was not talking about Odin or Thor or the other pagan gods, why are you insisting that he was Christian when even his own autobiography refutes and disputes your claim that he was? Again who do you believe, him or your claims?
-
Douglas Robert Spindler
@Daniel Gray Your great grandfather is just one data point for just one region of Germany.
The United States National Holocaust museum tells us the vast majority of Germans belonged to a Christian church during the Nazi era. In 1933 there were 40 million Protestants, 20 million Catholics, and small numbers of people adhering to other Christian traditions. The German Evangelical Church (the largest Protestant church) and the Roman Catholic church were pillars of German society and played an important role in shaping people’s attitudes and actions vis-à-vis National Socialism, including anti-communism, nationalism, traditional loyalty to governing authorities (particularly among Protestants), and the convergence of Nazi antisemitism with widespread and deep-seated anti-Jewish prejudice.
You do realize almost all of the high ranking Nazi officers close to Hitler were Christians. (Take a look at their bios.) And that the officers who were directly involved in the attempted assassination of Hitler could not believe it when he survived every assassination attempt when he should have been dead. In their minds, the ONLY way Hitler could have survived was divine intervention from God. They felt God was protecting Hitler because Hitler was doing God's work.
Feel free to do you own fact checking. Hope these facts might change your mind.
The Germans who abandoned their religious beliefs were the ones in concentration camps. To them this was worse than Hell. They could not understand how having been so faithful to God, that God treating them and their fellow Germans this way. They concluded there wasn't a God.
-
Daniel Gray
You understand that nothing you have said disproves what I posted about this monster. Even his own autobiography states he wasnt christian. And in the Nuremburg trials when Göring and Boreman were asked how a christian person could do this to the jewish people, the reply came back.."Who said we were christian?" So you have these two and Hitler himself saying they were not chiristian
-
-
-
-
-
Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson
As I read history, most of the Nazi high command were Catholic, and used the pagan imagery for its impact on their pageantry.
...and in my comment, the $ sign is more my opinion. Though the satire of the "Herr" did not translate well.
-
Daniel Gray
Then you should have stated that it was your opinion and implied that it was fact in any way
-
Rev. B
Comment removed by user.
-
-
-
-
-
Susan Colmenares
Kanye is mentally ill. His comments should be taken with a grain of salt. Should we love everyone? Of course, if that person can be convinced to embrace redemption by repenting their sins against others-even murderers and Nazis. Is such repentance likely? Hell no!
-
Bishop William Dusenberry, DD
Susan; anyone who “actually” (really) believes in Holy Ghosts, Virgin Mary’s, Gods who allow themselves to be killed for three days, and a God who drowned everyone on Earth, including 12,000,000 pregnant moms — and who has read any objective (non-biblical) history of the rise and fall of the Roman Empire— knows that all religious history is mythological — ergo, anything attributed to mythological sources, is mythological — including any quotes attributed to either God, or his son.
-
Rev. Elizabeth
Why are you on this website then? Why do you read all these that you’re against? I’m asking out of curiosity and not meant it to be derogatory towards you at all. It’s just a couple of questions because I am curious. Being a therapist always brings me to asking why someone thinks and does what they do. I appreciate your time.
-
Pastor Paul
I have to wonder the same thing also. Why be involved in something that you don't believe?
-
Rev. B
Comment removed by user.
-
-
Rev. B
Basically, the same reason as you. This site is not intended for a specific faith, or indeed any. There is no "for" or "against". These are just topics for discussion and like you I try to find why people believe what they do and why.
-
-
David Cox
For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who by their unrighteousness suppress the truth. 19 For what can be known about God is plain to them, because God has shown it to them. 20 For his invisible attributes, namely, his eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly perceived, ever since the creation of the world,[g] in the things that have been made. So they are without excuse. 21 For although they knew God, they did not honor him as God or give thanks to him, but they became futile in their thinking, and their foolish hearts were darkened. 22 Claiming to be wise, they became fools, 23 and exchanged the glory of the immortal God for images resembling mortal man and birds and animals and creeping things.
24 Therefore God gave them up in the lusts of their hearts to impurity, to the dishonoring of their bodies among themselves, 25 because they exchanged the truth about God for a lie and worshiped and served the creature rather than the Creator, who is blessed forever! Amen.
26 For this reason God gave them up to dishonorable passions. For their women exchanged natural relations for those that are contrary to nature; 27 and the men likewise gave up natural relations with women and were consumed with passion for one another, men committing shameless acts with men and receiving in themselves the due penalty for their error.
28 And since they did not see fit to acknowledge God, God gave them up to a debased mind to do what ought not to be done. 29 They were filled with all manner of unrighteousness, evil, covetousness, malice. They are full of envy, murder, strife, deceit, maliciousness. They are gossips, 30 slanderers, haters of God, insolent, haughty, boastful, inventors of evil, disobedient to parents, 31 foolish, faithless, heartless, ruthless. 32 Though they know God's righteous decree that those who practice such things deserve to die, they not only do them but give approval to those who practice them.
-
David Cox
Jesus loves you William Dusenberry and He is waiting for you...your sins can be forgiven
-
Lionheart
Zeus loves you, David. He's waiting for you to confess your sins of following the wrong religion.
On the plus side, Zeus doesn't have a fiery place where you will burn for eternity if you don't accept him. Sounds a much better, caring, savior to me.
Have a wonderful Zeusmas this winter season.
🦁♥️
-
Karrie Thornhill
@Lionheart ~ Perfect rebuttal 👏🏻👏🏻✊🏻
-
-
-
-
Al Jones
If we're going with a Christian viewpoint, I don't believe that Jesus required that someone be saved to receive another's love.
Among the pastors in the criminal justice system is the phrase "love the sinner, hate the sin" which I think would be more representative of God's love. Can a pastor seriously approach someone who has a past that involves serious criminal activity, for example, if he doesn't love the sinner?
-
-
Rev. Elizabeth
This man is in serious need of help with his current mental state. He doesn't realize this himself. He thinks he is fine and all is right with his life and what he sees. No one can change his mind, he believes he is right. Someone, Please, Help this man. This isn't a joke or funny. He can seriously hurt himself or someone. I pray he is never alone with his kids. This person needs help. Please, someone Baker Act him and then you will have cause to keep him. It's for his benefit and his family as well. I am praying for his help and for his family. Someone, you love him, get him serious help.
-Rev. Elizabeth S. Arsenault
-
Aqilah Jackson
I do agree with you.
-
Douglas Robert Spindler
@Rev. Elizabeth What have you accomplished in with your life? Kanye West is an American rapper, songwriter, record producer, and fashion designer. He one of the most influential hip hop artists and producers of the early 21st century. And you?
-
Rev. Elizabeth
What does all that have to do with his current mental health issue? I don’t need to answer you but I will. I was a mental health therapist for 25 years and have helped many over these years. And you? Your accomplishments?
-
Douglas Robert Spindler
@Rev. Elizabeth I was able to get you to answer a question you didn't need to answer, but did. That's a lot of power
What evidence do you have to make the diagnosis Kanye West is meatily ill? Could he not just be speaking his mind? In America we have something called free speech. He is an American and has a right and freedom to say what he wants.
-
-
-
Richard Darwin Richards
Are you speaking of Joe Biden???
-
Rev. Elizabeth
Since I posted on the story regarding Kanye West, I am referring to the man of the hour. Pres. Joe Biden is not part of this topic. I hope this answers your question.
-
Richard Darwin Richards
Biden is since his mental state is resulting in war and the loss of millions of innocent lives. Not to mention he has called for dealing harshly with 50 percent of Americans that merely question his sanity.
-
-
-
JaZe
Perhaps he s just discovering another side to himself. It is well known in psychology that we all wear many 'masks'.
In time he ll move on as we are meant to do instead of becoming relics of a musty past. Why so attached to that book? We are all capable of independent thought.
-
Fr. Matthew Arælius
I'm afraid we all are the ones needing help; help with learning to ignore people like him. Plain and simple. I should know. I'm about as simple as one could get, and even I know those who will doing anything for the attetion of the public need to have a blind eye (and ear) put to them. I don't swat pests, and they tend to leave me alone.
-
Sylvia Clark Sirmons
Doesn’t a person own the rights, about what they think and choose to believe. We as The Human Race, needs to be less Judgmental of others.
-
-
If the Nazis learned to live as Jesus said, they would not have been Nazis. There wouldn't have any worry about there being Nazis.