Is Evolution a Religion? One Lawsuit Says Yes

Mrknowitall

Those who say there are a few transitional fossils because they saw some drawings are completely ignorant. We should have millions of fossils showing every stage of development from every creature known to man…..Why would I expect more from people when 42% of Americans are OK with the direction of the Democrats Government, Satan rules the earth by using Democrats

Daniel Gray

But but but but but evolution is a fact because they used carbon dating they claim. Oh really? you mean THIS carbon dating?

"there are so few atoms to count; even a little extra carbon from contamination will throw off the results significantly. A million-year-old sample contaminated by only a tiny amount of carbon could yield an invalid age of 40,000 years, for example. Other dating methods have different strengths." https://news.uchicago.edu/explainer/what-is-carbon-14-dating

The slow, steady process of Carbon-14 creation in the upper atmosphere has been dwarfed in the past centuries by humans spewing carbon from fossil fuels into the air. Since fossil fuels are millions of years old, they no longer contain any measurable amount of Carbon-14 Smithsonian Museum

Inaccuracies in radiocarbon dating https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2018/06/180605112057.htm

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5774753/ Radiocarbon dating uncertainty and the reliability of the PEWMA method of time-series analysis for research on long-term human-environment interaction

However, there are several limitations to carbon-14 dating. Due to the short half-life of carbon-14, organic artifacts over 50,000 to 60,000 years old cannot be accurately dated. Additionally, samples can be contaminated by the organic matter in contact with the artifact. So you mean this carbon dating that even the experts are saying is inaccurate?

Pastor George Day

Colossians 3:2 AMP

Set your mind and keep focused habitually on the things above [the heavenly things], not on things that are on the earth [which have only temporal value].

Pastor George Day

2 Corinthians 10:4-5 AMPC

For the weapons of our warfare are not physical [weapons of flesh and blood], but they are mighty before God for the overthrow and destruction of strongholds, [Inasmuch as we] refute arguments and theories and reasonings and every proud and lofty thing that sets itself up against the [true] knowledge of God; and we lead every thought and purpose away captive into the obedience of Christ (the Messiah, the Anointed One)

Mrknowitall

For the last time for all the fools out there . There are no transitional fossils. Zero…There is no argument, God created everything from nothing, save your breath and move on

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

The only real fact that the theory of evolution can present is that nature itself naturally changes and they act like that's a big time revelation. Our ancestors understood that nature goes through different changes so that's like a boring wow - my ancestors understood biology chemistry and physics.The biggest leap of faith with the theory of evolution is the fairy tale that humans come from apes and our modern day intellectuals are goin to stick to that idea like stink on "ish". Somebody please give us some type of evidence (((some type of quote!!!))) that shows that our ancient ancestors shared that same idea about humans coming from apes...I mean if humans really came from apes and supposedly humans came out of Africa then why don't we have any corroborating writings to verify that fairy tale. When humans 1st started to write if that was really true they would have written about it - don't try to insult our intelligence with hollow words from nowhere. All of the writings from Ethiopia Egypt Ghana and even Saudi Arabia 🇸🇦 Persia India China the Mayans and even Europe itself says nothing close to that (i.e. humans come from apes). Just b/c nature goes through different changes doesn't prove evolution. Most ppl know that if someone creates a cat mixed with a dog the offspring will be sterile and that new mixed offspring will not be able to produce more cat-dog mixes - now that's a scientific fact. If 2 cats of different types have an offspring then that offspring won't always be sterile and that's a fact that science can prove. All of the other mumbo jumbo is phony EGO talk - please share what discovery has substantially proven evolution mainly humans coming from apes? If you identify with apes and you want them to be a part of your genealogy then so be it - my genealogy begins with Adam and Eve and I consider them to be the superstars of my family. Modern day intellectuals want some ape parents to be their superstars - what kind of line of reasoning is that - ape superstars in their family genealogy and they proud of that - they so proud of that they tying to convince us that our genealogy starts with ape parents as well - now that's some bold strong arm "ish" - this what they really saying: we goin make your genealogy start with apes whether you like it or not!! NOT!!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

God said: My Angels don't even understand My Creating - so if His Angels can't figure it out we humans (((especially modern day scientists))) definitely can't figure it out. God said: I took some light and some darkness and I said "Be Thick" and it became water - the lightening comes from the gleam of My Eye and I commanded My Wisdom to create My Humans with 7 natures and with 7 consistencies. Per the book of Jubilees God created or He completed 22 major accomplishments to His physical creation in 6 days then He rested. He used 2 Angels to lay the foundation of the physical or lower realm that's why the Angels shouted for joy and that's why they're so invested and involved with humanity's fate!! For most modern day scientists and intellectuals this is some unbelievable "ish" and it means nothing to them b/c the theory of evolution is the theory of their EGO (Easing God Out)!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Death is the greatest equalizer to life - so for most atheist and the ppl who believe in evolution death is our finality (worm food). OK so no one knows exactly how we got here and no one knows exactly what happens after death. So what modern day scientists and intellectuals are saying is that our ancestors never asked the question of how we got here and what happens after death. They pretend like those question about our humanity just came up yesterday. OK if they're so smart why don't they ask this question: what will ppl look like after they die - now our ancestors asked that question and they got an answer. Now anyone can NOT believe the descriptions in the answer but at least the question was asked and again anyone can choose not to believe the given answer but at least respect the question especially since modern day intellectuals didn't come up with the same question nor have a description to share!! FYI: all of the descriptions I've read have been exciting positive and powerful and that resonates with me but just being worm food that doesn't resonate at all - that sounds so boring 🥱 !!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

We're all free to make our choices as long as we don't think we're superior or better than the next person. The American hate system is set up in controversy and the American hate system is the most bitter and vicious of all hate systems in the world and that's b/c of African slavery - plain and simple. The average American white person thinks they're superior smarter and better than any good black person - most can't see hear or even contemplate equality between black and white ppl. There's a prophecy in Daniel about the feet and the toes on a statue - that description is America - weak and strong. Weak in harmony strong in arrogance so it gets smashed by a ROCK and not Iraq!! Calling America united is a misnomer - she likes to masquerade as being good but she always reneges on ALL her treaties and peace agreements and that's definitely not a good look!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Part of intelligence is asking the right questions part of knowledge is knowing the answers but it can be dangerous cause the knowledge can be given out in a tricky way. We're told by God to go to our WISDOM and use HIS WORD for sound advice and counseling. But any human can masquerade themselves and say this is real knowledge while knowing its not hence the catholic church. They KNOW that books have been taken out and libraries were burned b/c they encouraged it - ask the right questions use your WISDOM and use GOD'S ENTIRE WORD!!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Why WON'T the catholic church advise ppl to keep the Sabbath on Saturday which is the 7th day and why don't they highlight the Feast of Trumpets the Day of Atonement and the Feast of Tabernacle? Why is our Saviors born day on Dec 25th and why is the new year during dead of winter when most cultures kept it in the spring when Mother Nature becomes new again. What do rabbits 🐇 and eggs have to do with Christ? The catholic church is a joke - the hypocrisy too self evident. Didn't the catholic church accept hitler for a second? Not a good look cause it can weaken their credibility especially for ppl who are really paying attention and DON'T go for the fake out move!!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

What the catholic church does - is not surprising at all and it makes total sense from them to snake their way into the discussion that way. They wanna act like they're representing God's knowledge and goodness when in reality they're doing the complete opposite. The decisions of the catholic church is so secular its sad - the catholic church is in bed with all the wrong groups of ppl - that's the wrong source to use to say Christians should accept evolution - they can't count to 7 so they less than elementary in their Christian Walk - they still like pre school in their understanding - they super weak with no credibility!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Its easy for most American and European scientists and intellectuals to say that they're smarter than their ancestors b/c their ancestors were WAR like and didn't leave any spiritual words of significance. My ancestors were taken to the Heavens/Spiritual Realm and they left spiritual words for me to read. My ancestors like Adam and Eve was super smart b/c they wasn't afraid to ask questions and ask for extra help. My ancestors not only passed down their words but also the words of the Angels - and that takes intelligence. My ancestors did the hard part to help make my life be a little easier. My ancestors were smart enough to preserve those words and also smart enough to protect those words from war like ppl like the Arabs and the Europeans and that's major!! So yes, my ancestors are definitely smarter than me plus they could tell the difference between an Angel a fallen angel a human giant and a "God created human" which is ppl like me!! Most Europeans can't give their ancestors those type of flowers cause all they see and hear from their ancestors is war war war which is their calling card. I'm so proud of my ancestors - had they not persevered certain WORDS I wouldn't be able to appreciate God and His Creation the way I do. Oh yeah my ancestors never worshipped money and they never tried to be conquerors of ppl as well as mother nature especially on a worldwide scale - that's a Eurasian trait - and that trait is still celebrated - we see it through the celebration of confederate soldiers - don't we?

Rudolph M Garza

A Catholic point of view from from Google AI Overview:

Evolution guided by God: The Catholic Church believes that evolution was guided by God, which is different from fundamentalist Christians who believe in the creation story in Genesis.

Catholics are free to choose: Catholics are free to accept or reject any part of evolutionary theory.

Theistic evolution: The Catholic Church supports theistic evolution, also known as evolutionary creation.

Catholic schools teach evolution: Catholic schools teach evolution as part of their science curriculum.

Jesuit influence: Jesuit priest and scientist Erich Wasmann was a leading voice in the late 19th and early 20th century in promoting the compatibility of evolution and the Christian faith.

Pope Francis: Pope Francis has written favorably about evolution and called for harmony between science and religion.

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Who doesn't know that European history is filled with paganism and war like ppl and Europeans were historically known as war like and very barbaric ppl? Who doesn't know that catholicism is just dressed up paganism and God's Day of Rest is on Saturday not Sunday? Some ppl try to debate that but that can't be debated b/c counting to 7 is super easy even a 1st grader can count to 7...the lies and more lies like easter christmas the new year being in the dead of winter sunday worship and so many other accessories that don't mesh with the Holy Scriptures is amazing and most Americans and Europeans accept it and eat it up every Sunday which is the 1st day of the week...I guess most Americans and Europeans can't count to 7 they tend to get confused after the #2...ppl who believe in the theory of evolution can easily highlight the hypocrisy of catholicism and say that catholicism does nothing to help build a good and mentally healthy society and they would be right and I totally agree with that!!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

The discussion got weird b/c some ppl don't go for the line of reasoning that evolution purports...the theory of evolution is trying so hard to prove that God is not an Intelligent Creator and Designer that its stumbling all over itself and constantly changing its premise...using catholicism as an example of Christianity and mature Spirituality is the wrong premise...catholicism is NOT built on the right foundation of God's Spirituality and most ppl KNOW THAT!!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

The fossil record shows more evidence of a flood than evolution...there are sea fossils recorded on top of mountains and just b/c insects can defeat pesticides that doesn't prove evolution...a scientist said humans are 1 chromosome away from an ape...so what...that 1 chromosome still reveals we're different in alot of different ways...wanting to find physical similarities can be found between all physical matter...big deal...our eyes are made from the sun but no one go to the sun to make that physical comparison but when we change to Spirit our eyes change into flames of fire like the sun...some say evolution and miracles are similar...I can easily say I never saw evolution but I have seen plenty of miracles like someone being healed from a disease a sickness or an injury without any medical help...for modern day intellectuals that's just nothing to them but for the person who's life was changed it was a miracle that science and doctors couldn't achieve...they have to sit down be quiet when events like that happen!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Modern day scientists and intellectuals are subtly trying to tell us that humans are inherently bad or barbaric and savage...if humans come from apes then humans had to learn from apes and the apes taught humans to barbaric and war like...modern day intellectuals can't accept that God (((who thought up everything to create))) created humans as inherently good and to have super awesome intelligence...for God said: our human intelligence comes from the swiftness of the Angels and its design for sweetness or (harmony relationships) which we clearly don't see on a consistent basis in war like America and Eurasia. The leaders in most of those countries operate in the space of disharmony more often than not!! War like leaders produce war like citizens!!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Modern day scientists and intellectuals would rather reference Buddhism as a positive source to help build humanity's goodness and that's b/c Buddhism doesn't believe in an Intelligent Creator God who thought up everything to create...in Buddhism they believe that knowledge is unnecessary to contemplate which is fine b/c they don't believe no human is more superior smarter or better than another human. No one is equal to no one we all have qualities that's better than someone else...there are ppl stronger faster and smarter than me and that's OK...it doesn't make me inferior to them. Men and women are not equal just like men and men and women and women aren't equal. Americans and Europeans like to play the blame game and the who's superior game that's why they love war and they love to create a hierarchy of ppl like the Germans are the best Italians are black and Africans are animals...that's how most Americans and Europeans reference their existence!!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Modern day scientists like to say their smarter than their ancestors and there is no Creator God and that's their choice...IT DOES NOT MAKE THEM SUPERIOR...I choose to say that my ancestors were smarter than me and there's a Creator God and it doesn't make me superior. The average modern day intellectual has not read all of the books that rome removed from the Holy Scriptures so their understanding is limited therefore they can be skeptical of God. Just like I haven't read all of the books about evolution so I can skeptical about evolution but still doesn't make either of us smarter or superior. Modern day intellectuals try to present an argument that believing in God is a weakness and the God of the Holy Scriptures is the blame for Europeans being war like and dressing up their paganism and calling it catholicism. Ethiopia 🇪🇹 calls it the influence of the evil spirits to be that bold to change God's 4th commandment!!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Modern day intellectuals like to use catholicism and rome as their shining example of Christianity...catholicism is the worse point of reference to use to understand Christianity!! Christianity started in Ethiopia 🇪🇹 therefore Ethiopia should be the 1st point of reference...European history is filled war and paganism and catholicism is just dressed paganism. B/c modern day intellectuals are using catholicism as their example of Christianity, they can easily discount it b/c catholicism is filled with hypocrisy...catholicism doesn't even teach the right day of God's Rest so we know its counterfeit...catholicism has set a bad example of the Christian Walk whereas Ethiopia 🇪🇹 has NOT...Ethiopia has set a great example of the Christian Walk but b/c its in Africa Ethiopia 🇪🇹 is totally disrespected by modern day intellectuals and we all know its disrespected...American TV constantly shows Ethiopia as 3rd world ppl who are poor and hunger and yet we have the same poverty and hunger in America as well as in Europe...that's a move to disrespect and discount their intelligence but I don't go for that fake out move!!

Rev. Dr. Father JJ

This discussion got weird in a hurry

Mark R Robles

I started a comment on this on Facebook. So it might rea a bit different here.

Evolution and Creation: In a report I received, there is a discussion in an ongoing lawsuit “Evolution is a Religion” not a “Science”. I never really looked at evolution as a religion, until I read this article. Here is what I do know, man cannot prove either one, evolution vs creation, none of us were there! Either one, you must have faith in, in fact. This was quite mind blowing and you hear all the time, “I believe in creation” or “I believe in evolution”. When I was out of the church for many years, I leaned on evolution, however, I always thought that it was all by God’s hand, yet I held true that we did not evolve from apes. In other words, sure big bang and here we are in this universe, through God’s hand. Then when I got back into the church, I am solid as can be in all things Creation. This is based on teaching in public schools’ evolution as a religion and that creation should be taught as well, leaving the students to decide which way to learn on and decide on based on individual faiths. This would be in fact the correct way to do this. In the article it said, “Science’, however, is not supposed to be something one ‘believes’. Science is knowledge—that which can be demonstrated and observed and repeated. Evolution cannot be proved, or even tested; it can only be believed.” The things you learn. I never really looked at it like this until I read this article. I know this is different than what I usually post. I usually post scriptures and discuss what I felt from it or little quotes from songs that are on my mind. So here is where I stand in this: Genesis 1:1 “In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.” Genesis 1:3 Let there be light Genesis 1:6 Land and divide it from the waters Genesis 1:11 Grass, herb yielding seed, the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind Genesis 1:15 Stars and moon Genesis 1:20 Animals of the waters Genesis 1:24 Animals on land Genesis 1:26 “And God said, let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.” Genesis 2:2 Rest. You might not think this is part of creation, however it is. This day of rest later became Sabbath which later became the day of the week Jesus (God robed in flesh) rose from the dead, the most supreme work of the Lord for us ever accomplished (Research shows he died and buried on a Friday and rose on Sunday based on the way they calculated the days of the week back then). If you tie that in with all the examples of Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John of the examples of acceptable work to do on a Sunday you accomplish “let us make man in our image” in Genesis. Make man in our image. That is to follow His Word and take care of His creation, it’s what He created us to do from the very beginning. Creation is where I firmly stand. However, we are each given free will, therefore, public schools should teach both, and let each student decide which path they want to take based on what they have faith to believe. The very definition applies to faith, whatever you have faith in. Hebrews 11:1 “Now faith is the substance of things hoped for, the evidence of things not seen”. I have faith that my automatic dishwasher cleans the dishes, and without being able to go in there and watch the thing clean the dishes, faith is all I got. All I know is they go in dirty and come out clean. We are all born with a portion of faith and free will, God just sits back, gentleman that He is, to watch us decide the path we want to go, in hopes we chose Him, His Word, His Works, His laws and so on. I love doing these. Some of you might not care for these posts, but they are there for those who enjoy them. There is no one or nothing I am pointing at here. Just the research of the Word I enjoy doing.

Amen!

Mrknowitall

What a lie . There has never been one transitional fossil found anywhere in the world ! If Evolution weee true we would have a Gazillion transitional fossils, there would be so many we would be sick of looking at them ! So it’s a lie, move on

Alexandre Tadeu Fae Rosa

What is easy to be seen? Miracles or evolution? I've never ever seen a miracle, but I've already seen some proofs of the evolution.

Fossil record Fossils show how species that existed in the past are different from those present today.

Genetics Different species have similarities in their DNA.

Embryology Species that seem very different as adults pass through similar stages of embryological development.

Direct observation Some populations, like microbes and some insects, evolve over relatively short time periods and can be observed directly. The emergence of drug-resistant bacteria and pesticide-resistant insects are modern examples of evolution.

Hybrids The existence of hybrids, such as the mule, the liger, and the coywolf, is evidence of ongoing processes of speciation.

The theory of evolution is one of the best-substantiated theories in the history of science.

Alexandre Tadeu Fae Rosa

Yes, theory of evolution hasn't been tested because it's a THEORY! Anyone who has been in touch with scientific development knows that some aspects of this theory have already been proved right. Others are still waiting to be tested or observed. It's high time we taught in our schools that science and religion explain different things.

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Modern day intellectuals won't attach the theory of evolution to Europeans only!! Why don't they just say that their ancestors came from apes and other ppl like the Africans Native Americans the ppl of India and the Chinese came the star ppl that they mention so much in their own traditions - why don't they just do that? Evidently they don't feel that comfortable with the theory to label themselves that way (((Europeans come directly from apes yall and they've established that fact through their own science))). In the writings of Marco Polo he said this about other European descriptions of China: he made a clear distinction that they are what he had heard rather than what he had seen. Also, from (Marco's descriptions of China) his accuracy is supported by archaeological evidence as well as Chinese records compiled after Polo had left China. The theory of evolution is something we have heard about but have not seen and its not supported by any archeology evidence or any ancient written records or oral traditions. Instead of just attaching themselves to that theory - as arrogant conquerors they had to keep reinforcing the myth about them being best of all ppl. And now they are over feeding themselves with that line of reasoning and they just can't stop eating lie of "We Da Best". Our eyes the atom and the universe itself disproves evolution. How much of an evolutionary change has our eyes made? Doesn't the atom have a mechanical mechanism which shows a designer and isn't the big bang theory changing as well as the age of universe? The theory of evolution is a shape shifter - its fluid like liquid - nothing is real solid about it - the best way to cancel it - is to vaporize it into thin AIR which is the abode of the ABSOLUTE TRUTH!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Modern day intellectuals tell us in a book that Europe is continent but Europe is NOT a continent its just a part of Asia hence Eurasia. But b/c its in a book and its taught by so called "intellectuals" with an agenda most ppl believe that little white lie - who believes that? Who believes that America and Eurasia has more atheist than Africa and South America. The theory of evolution has NOT taken hold in those areas of the world but its totally taken hold in America and in Eurasia and why is that? B/c that theory is the perfect thinking process to Ease God Out (EGO) which is 1 of the main agendas of the atheist movement or the evil spirits. To say that the theory can change as new evidence is found means that its really not that established and there are still some major holes in that theory. But in the minds of modern day intellectuals that theory actually fills a hole that they've already fallen into and that bottomless pit of false reasoning sprinkled with little white lies is where they wanna be!!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Modern day intellectuals say that evolution is a well established theory that's taught as a part of science. Its been well established by ppl with an agenda and it is taught as if the scientists actually lived on this earth millions and millions yrs ago. Black ppl/Africans evolving from apes is the most well established part of the theory and no one has never seen that happen (an ape becoming human). As a black man with a Spiritual Family and a Spiritual Connection that teaching is blind non sense. My African ancestors built fabulous cities with libraries as well as flying vessels and they sailed around the world. The main lie of the European colonizers was that the Africans couldn't do all of that but again there's (((an oral tradition written history and archeology evidence))) with all of that but with the theory of evolution none of those criterion are met - NOT 1 ancient European scholar has ever purposed that theory or concept. There's ZERO evidence that proves that black ppl evolved from apes - no other culture in the history of mankind has any oral tradition or written history that co-signs evolution - NOT 1!! Why is that? B/c our ancestors understood the connection between the physical realm and the Spiritual Realm not the connection between apes and black ppl. Just b/c we need to create a theory and then put it a book and then teach it to unsuspecting minds doesn't make it true. Again the theory was thought up 1st and then some "evidence" was later "found" to prove it to "true" and that's called modern day science. I believe Europeans come from the evil spirits and now Imma find evidence and then put it in a book and teach it to unsuspecting minds and that's what we call modern day science. The way the Europeans treated Africans Native Americans the ppl of India and Chinese ppl shows traits of being super evil. Their conquering spirit which the Africans didn't have comes directly from the evil spirits. The Europeans' need for war division and competition comes directly from the play book of the evil spirits. So why don't we teach that - it ain't offensive at all b/c some ppl think its true. Just like some modern day intellectuals think that Africans evolving from apes isn't offensive b/c there are other scientists who agree with that. So don't be offended with being connected to the evil spirits - accept it as science - the gruesome wars and the petty divisions is the evidence that can found all over Europe - its science with actual evidence unlike with evolution - its blind science!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Modern day intellectuals have so much angst against God and the Spiritual Realm that if they're told that they're Spiritually Gifted and Spiritual Great they'll quickly not believe it - a fabulous compliment does nothing to sway their thinking. Science and technology along with the theory of evolution has so disconnected modern day thinking from the Spiritual Realm that nothing that they come to understand will spark any interest - they've giving themselves over completely to the thinking that we humans have NO connection to the invisible aka the Spiritual Realm. God talks about mercy and forgiveness for all ppl and for all that we do but that still isn't enough. They can be told that no human has a completely dark soul and spirit - definitely not as dark as the evil spirits. Our darkest modern day humans - some would say like Hilter and maybe Stalin - are not as dark as the evil spirits - even their souls have a little light. Even that glowing compliment isn't enough to sway their thinking. Telling them that their physical body will change to a powerful Spiritual Body is not enough. Telling them that ALL babies of ALL skin colors who mis carry or are aborted or pass away prematurely b/c of neglect or bad judgment (thrown away into the garbage) or by evil spirit sacrifices are still saved by Christ and his special Care Taking Angels - even that understanding isn't enough. The only words that their itching ears like to hear is that we got science technology evolution material stuff money and we're smarter and better than all of those ppl in what we call 3rd world countries. How sad for them that they're not like us cause we're advanced ppl straight 1st world - insulated by our weapons and money - so who can touch us? Well God can - God touches ABSOLUTELY ALL b/c He dwells in everything - God says I dwell in the AIR My place of abode. Modern day intellectuals have such over blown egos that ALL glowing compliments that God bestows on His "intelligent" humans falls on hard hearted ears. The Word of God is alive and active - sharper than any double edged sword - it reaching down into the intentions of our heart and thoughts. Our motives and intentions is what our life review and judgment will be based on and no one receives any favoritism from God - just mercy through our Big Brother who sits on the Mercy Seat - isn't that great news - its definitely not like the bad news we see on 1st world TV!! Smh!!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Modern day intellectuals would rather believe in big foot aliens and flying saucers instead of believing that we humans learn from the Angels (or for some ppl the evil spirits) and at times some humans have been carried to different realms/heavens by the Angels - the evil spirits can't do that but having those seriously cool connections and relationships is considered super far fetched and myth talk. But big foot who's TV name is Darryl has a connection to modern day humans and its all over TV - yall seen Darryl aka Big Foot on TV? When are the aliens coming in their super fast flying saucers? Christ said no one knows - not me or the Angels - know the day or the hour of my return except for my Father and when Christ does return we're told that the Angels will be right by his side. However modern day intellectuals will always doubt that and say: that ain't true cause the aliens are coming - not the British but the aliens. What does that have to do with evolution? Hate lies (like black ppl/Africans evolved from apes) arrogance (thinking certain ppl are superior aka the colonizers' myths about Africa) and greed has led the majority of modern day ppl into believing that the aliens are coming. We can't even believe that a better generation is coming that will see the hate and the lies, dissect the lies and then correct the lies and refuse to live by the lies - its called a generation that will rebel against rebellion hence better thinking. But who wants better thinking right now - per modern day thinking we got science and technology evolution money and material stuff and best of all we got big foot along with some aliens in those fast a.. flying saucers so we're super intelligent and super sophisticated!!! REALLY - SMH!!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Only using the 66 books called the bible does not give the full picture of our ancestors' understanding. Per the book of Jubilees: "And on the new moon of the fourth month, Adam and his wife went forth from the Garden of Eden, and they dwelt in the land of Elda in the land of their creation". Adam was taken from Elda then he was cleaned purified and sanctified before entering the Garden, and when they were banished they went back to the land where they were created. Now what's also missing is that Adam and Eve petitioned God to go back to Paradise and God granted their petition! Now the evil spirits petitioned to go back to the High Holy Heavens and God told them No - so we humans have good favor with God b/c of Adam and Eve. Now don't you think that the evil spirits don't like that? Now if the stronger human qualities survive and was passed down and we yes know certain things about human history through human bones then why haven't the qualities and strength of the human giants survived. There have been numerous discoveries of their bones - especially during the 17 and 1800s - 6 fingers 6 toes and 2 rows of teeth - so why isn't that common? God put them into extinction so that the unprotected humans of today wouldn't have to deal with human giants as well as arrogant scientists all at the same time. That's kind of a joke but we don't see 6 fingers and 6 toes on a regular basis for a reason. It would be easy to say that 6 fingers and toes has no advantage in our modern world when you don't have them!! Being a skeptic and a doubter is easy when we don't completely understand God. Don't some cultures look at time in cycles and not linear? And their understanding is totally put down and disrespected. Adam and Eve did something super unbelievable and we can't relate it - they stayed married for over 900 yrs without a divorce - yeah they went through a separation period but they never divorced and we can't believe that at all - how can ppl stay friends for that long? We sell ourselves short so easily and we don't even know it - most modern day scientists are big time skeptics filled with lots of doubt about our human Greatness but not ME - I see it all over the place!!!

Danielle Elizabeth Ostach

Okay, 1) Evolution is a theory, it is a well established scientific theory that is taught as part of science with caveat that it can be modified if new facts are found to PROVE it wrong. 2) It does not give intelligence to nature, what it says is that mutations and changes occur and species with best adaptation to environment will tend to survive while those not as adept will die out. This is not intelligence but the way things go. If a place where strength is most important to survival, the stronger folks will live to reproduce and pass down their genetics and strength while the weaker ones will not. Same for intelligence, or any other trait. This can actually be seen in human genetics in that those from certain parts of world have adaptation (skin, hair, eyes) that are more suited to their part of the world. 3) it theorizes that humans came from apes that evolved over thousands or millions of years but does not claim it is true though various fossil evidence seems to support it, it is not taught as definitively conclusive. 4) has has been proven in other species through actual observation and testing.

This makes it science and not religion. Evolution explicitly denied anything of intelligent design but that just natural survival of the fittest.

Actually the concept that Nature has intelligence and design to change thing would actually imply a religion and a god as behind the changes and that is more like religion. That sounds more like Christianity and their intelligent design than evolution.

Renee J Bridges

What is this "&amp" that shows up in my sentences?

Renee J Bridges

Lets start with Moses who wrote Genesis 1513 years before Jesus arrived, so there was no witness to this blessed event. Evolution also has no witnesses EXCEPT thru the bones of creatures & human skulls...now in continuing with the account of Genesis, Adam & Eve left the garden without having children (possibly a deal breaker) & struggled in an under developed landscape where the only comfort they had was each other. Thus FINALLY having children & WHO do you think these children mated with? There were OTHER CREATIONS, other beings that were living according to their own development from other creatures that were already there...there are so many statements of our Creator creating animals long before He allowed His (or Her, I'm saying it this way for sexist) image to become flesh. Eons of creatures created & destroyed for various reasons but some apparently "domestic" adapted (evolved) to surroundings because they didn't eat miles & miles of vegetation in one day! Causing their own demise. "Domestics" were probably the warm blooded animals that survived BECAUSE they adapted to the surroundings w/o destroying it. I believe that is WHY there were so many statements of creating vegetation over & over because of the SCALE of animals created like it was a learning process for our Creator...Now let me repeat because of it's importance... our Creator HAD A LEARNING PROCESS...where primates were seen to look up to the stars (an instinct of something greater) & found their own tools to eat! NOW the extra DNA that developed in primates to increase & adapt their development CAN be said given from the Creator directly OR the Creator ALLOWED superior beings, created LONG before us within that learning process to give us that DNA! After eons crude beings adapted & developed that were eventually considered "people" . Now after SEEING this development our Creator REFINED this image into It's CHILDREN that were given directions to LEARN but they did nothing else. They did not have to adapt to survive. So now RULES were created for these CHILDREN to create DESIRE, the desire to be like their Father. And what child wouldn't? Told by the only animal allowed to speak. (How & why did THAT happen?)But learning & decision making had effects & consequences, in being like the Parent they were no longer children where everything gets provided. But they had to know there was no way back to being a child. They were no smarter than other beings except THEY KNEW their Father & perhaps that was the start of religion! What I'm trying to demonstrate is that science AND faith go hand in hand, where one will prove the other. But TO HAVE FAITH in the LEARNING PROCESSES of the universe & BEYOND. we ARE THE CREATIVE CHILDREN OF A GROWING & ADAPTIVE CREATOR...it was the fear of mankind that created the word "sin" in the 4th chapter of Gen. Our Creator just told them what to expect NOT that they were wrong. Now I know there will be some of BLIND faith who CAN'T understand or won't understand or accept this explanation of a LOGICAL procession of possibilities recorded in layers of this planet than you don't believe in an intelligent Creator that in order to stay 'all knowing' it must have a constant input of information from all sources of life. A constant learning process.

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Evolution is change and God designing change is clearly visible. The theory of evolution is purporting that these scientists know exactly how God created and the time order of life as well as how everything came into existence. That college try by scientists has done more harm than good especially toward our ancient ancestors as well as our indigenous ancestors (modern day science totally disrespects their thoughts about creation). That theory highlights differences in physical qualities and then says that those different qualities determines intelligence and sophistication. That theory does more harm than good. The 1,000 yrs is like a day is highlighting God's patience and His eternal viewpoint which we can't relate too. Scientists act like they have special knowledge which allows them to say that God did and didn't do this in ancient history. Carbon dating isn't perfect...is a second really a second...is an inch really that size and does a pound weigh what science says. We take that information as rock solid but is it rock solid? Scientists can be questioned and their results can be wrong just like God can be questioned but His results aren't wrong b/c life is actually happening. I can nick pick science all day long and then eventually become a skeptic. I don't believe everything a doctor says or a scientist a sociologist a teacher a coach a cop a pastor a father a mother a brother a sister my TV the radio or the internet...they all can have a hidden agenda. But this a part of God's agenda that's most fascinating to ME and its this: I can have eternal life as a Spirit Being being able to move at the speed of thought. I don't care if anybody believes that cause that's super positive and you can't be no more positive than that. The theory of evolution is not close to being that positive especially toward the African and indigenous ppl on this earth...that's the hidden agenda which most Americans don't want to look at...we come from Greatness and we return to Greatness not we come from apes and we become worm food that's too depressing and it has no spiritual connection at all!!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

We'll run out of humans before we run out of weapons of war...we have alot money for war but we can't feed the poor...science can help us build weapons of war but science can't teach peace...that's beyond science and we all know this!!

Ari Joseph Bertine

No. This is absurd. Science is not a religion. And one need not be an atheist to understand how scientific method and empirical studies work. There are plenty of religious people, even Christians, who can separate religious beliefs, lore, metaphorical lessons, and how the physical world actually works.

Heck, the Bible even drops a major hint about not taking its timeline literally right in there! "One day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years is like one day" to this deity, meaning that time is utterly meaningless to him. Nowhere does it say that everything was created instantly and fully formed, in a sudden poof. It boggles me that people who can believe in an omnipotent god think that designing evolution is beyond him.

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Why does American and Eurasia love war so much? Scientists can track the history war and it overwhelming highlights those areas...all learned in HS is war war war...there are books in Ethiopia that talk about peace and ppl getting along with each other...has America ever had a period of absolute peace? Nope! So its obvious that our war like leaders can NOT teach peace...for they don't have the humility that it takes to teach PEACE...we all can see our war like nature can't we?

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

"Teach science not superstition"...how about teach peace not war...in H.S. all I learned was European and American history and it was war on top of war...they bragged about a 100 yrs of war...never talked about peace not even 5 yrs of peace...can science teach peace if it can it need to figure that out...there are books out of Ethiopia that talk about peace and ppl getting along with each other but not in Europe or America...all we get is war war war...in America there are way more guns than humans...we'll run out of humans before we run out of weapons of war...we have alot of money for war but yet we can't feed the poor...war like leaders produce war like citizens...who don't understand that?

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Evolution doesn't wanna touch human giants monolith megalith ancient flying machines and ancient human ingenuity and we all know why! All of those facets of human existence destroys the theory of evolution which says that non intelligent humans lived in alot of different places all around the earth. They can't say that advance civilizations existed near less advance civilizations that's too difficult to admit. We already know that the setting of the Holy Scriptures was in Africa...we know it by the terrain the plants and the animals as well as the ages of the synagogues as well as the tradtions of certain ppl...the oldest synagogue is in Africa...Americans and Europeans have tried super hard to destroy hide and cover up the influence of Africa but for some reason it never can completely do it and I wonder why? B/c lies don't last forever...most ppl know that modern day Israel is not where ancient Israel was located...the Europeans put modern day Israel in that location for land and trade purposes not to be truthful with following the Holy Scriptures that's why the Holy Scriptures said: those Jews are not Jews and most ppl know that...don't we already know that?

Joyce Heck

I believe that it is a religion just like any other religion. Something someone believes in and has faith in. Their faith is in science rather than God and this is a moment where we should just agree to disagree. It's an argument that could last for centuries. As long as we stay respectful everyone should be able to choose religion or science.

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

If a human has never heard or read any books about God and the Spiritual Realm then they won't know about God and the Spiritual Realm. The 81 books of the Holy Scriptures is a reference book that references lots of other books that go into more specific detail about ppl places and moments. Alot of those books were deliberately burned so we've lost alot of understanding about the Spiritual Realm so quite naturally false narratives have easily taken root. Now there are a few places on this earth that still has alot of the outside books that go into more detail but those places are hidden and quiet. Also the Holy Scriptures calls itself the Holy Scriptures so when someone calls the Holy Scriptures the Bible they're already showing their naivety about the Holy Scriptures....there's a whole library of books that revolve around the Holy Scriptures that's actually hidden and protected from those arrogant American and European intellectuals. And you know what...that's super duper great news - don't yall agree? Keep their grubby little hands away from those beautiful and Holy Words!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Humans learned to write letters and numbers by observing the stars and watching the movements of the universe not from apes...there were more elements on the periodic table than we have today that's why certain ancient flying machines like the vamanas can't be re-engineered...those elements have gone extinct just like certain species of plants and animals...extinction equates to decay not refreshing or positive evolution...evolution is basically change and change is constant...just like the arrogant thoughts of ppl thinking that they're superior those thoughts are goin to go extinct or an evolution or a change to better thinking will definitely happen...our modern day scientists think they know how God has planned out His Creation but what they won't say is we humans are getting smaller, not living as long as we used too and the universe is in a state of decay! Nature normally regrows regenerates and recycles but b/c we're conquering mother nature all of those actions by mother nature is becoming more and more difficult...we all can see that our fish are abnormally dying as well as animals and trees and grass...if that's evolution then its negative evolution caused by war like humans where hate lies and negativity can win the minds of most ppl...we all can see the decay that's happening can't we?

Robbie Ousley

God can't be proven by order or faith either one. God can't be expressed by scripture, or made into something like religion. There is only one lengthy way to prove God that most who claim to believe in God have no interest in or patience for. There is only one way to express God, they don't have any interest in that either. They won't even accept the extremely direct instruction given to them to do either. So, there's no reason for atheists to believe in God. At least not when those who claim to believe don't believe in God enough to follow the most direct simple instructions they were given and ignore that "all" people are to be respected, loved, and encouraged as every person is; not judgement, not condemnation, not stumblingblocks. And most have been more interested in being defensive and resistent to taking care of the earth, the first instruction given in no uncertain terms. I believe in the natural God of existence who never called for religion and didn't authorize any title for their followers. So I'm on the atheists side in these kinds of discussions, believers lose every time they show their victim-loving stripes.

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Science can us help build weapons war but science can't teach us peace...science can help count the number of the dead but science can't teach peace...science can measure the loss of territory but science can't teach peace...there are still a few places on this earth where ppl live in relative peace...there's no military no prisons no juvenile detention ctrs and no locked door like the small island country of Tuvalu...for most ppl that means nothing but what it really means is that it doesn't take American science American math or social studies to find peace...as a matter fact it shows that they do better without any American influence...ain't that right?

Linda P Dettler

Evolution is in theory true, but I think it differs from God's human. I believe God put Adam and Eve in the Garden as humans as we think of them I think evolution is also true for certain humans. If you look at the evolution tables and pictures, the end pictures cannot be the "white" maile or female that they show, but darker skinned humans like Africans and Aborigious tribes. They have the same head shape and many of them still have the slanted forheads and wide noses. I believe at one point in history, both human species met, mated and made the commonality of humans we know today. Just my thoughts.

Daniel Gray

it takes far more faith to believe in evolution then it does to believe we are created. So yes Evolution is a religion

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

"Teach science not superstition"...how about teach peace not war...in H.S. all I learned was European and American history and it was war on top of war...they bragged about a 100 yrs of war...never talked about peace not even 5 yrs of peace...can science teach peace if it can it need to figure that out...there are books out of Ethiopia that talk about peace and ppl getting along with each other but not in Europe or America...all we get is war war war...in America there are way more guns than humans...we'll run out of humans before we run out of weapons of war...we have alot of money for war but yet we can't feed the poor...war like leaders produce war like citizens...who don't understand that?

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

There was a time when our ancestors knew the names of most of Angels in the High Holy Heavens nowadays we barely know the names of 4 or 5 Angels and if we do know some names then its considered myth talk and that's a subtle way of adding doubt!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Some are saying teach that the supernatural is unbelievable and teach that the basics of nature is not super and therefore science is not super hence science is just basic nature. Now that's fine for some ppl cause that's all they can handle - some ppl can't handle life goin beyond the basic natural and that's fine to stay stuck in that mode. But we're able to use our imaginations and to dream a little further for a reason but science can't go there - using our imagination to relate to the Spiritual Realm is frowned upon and that's OK...it has nothing to do with how we treat ppl!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

We ALL know the truth by how it feels we know our thoughts and whether they're positive or negative we know our words and we know our actions. What we don't know is our true nature - we really don't know how kind nice and forgiving we can be. Most Americans are too competitive and too hard hearted to understand their true nature. Some ppl think I'm upset and maybe too passionate but actually I'm cool and in control - I just know how to express myself with no fear filled with confidence. My BLACK father taught me this: if you treat other good good things will come back to you and as 57 yr old black man from the streets of Baltimore I believe in that wholeheartedly. I live on the edge and I can handle that - some ppl can't - but really I'm not afraid of treating ppl good and I hope no one reading these words have that fear. Yeah I went off track some...but so what...I got all my words out and now I'm good to go solo!! Most ppl don't know what that means but peace and hair grease I'm OUT!!

Rev Ned

Teach science not superstitions.

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

God is a Consuming Fire that dwells in Unapproachable Light, when He moves He emits fire and it burns, God is ineffable marvelous and terrifying and woe to be in the Hands of the Almighty. Our thoughts and our ways are not like God's, God is Love God is Spirit and God is Super Patient which is something that we're NOT!! Most ppl are fickled, frivolous and flippant and most of us don't like the authority of the truth, we think we know better. There's a way that seems right to us humans but in the end it leads to destruction or more specifically disagreements and animosity - who don't know this?

Michael Sledge

Again free will, we are entitled to belive in what we like. The courts take this away allowing such nonsense lawsuits. If you don't like the theory, turn and walk away. It's not "YOUR WORLD" ITS EVERYONES

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

Most of our modern day scientists have the God complex but none of them can talk like God!! God says: I am self eternal and self sustaining (For a moment of eternity) I was alone with just My Thought My Thought is My Counselor. My Wisdom and My Word are made, if I turn away My Face ALL will be destroyed. I have seen how ALL have come before Me and trembled in fear. God said: I create something out of nothing and I speak My Angels into existence and I created My Humans with My Little Finger, there is no difference between My Angels and My Humans. Now know this - NO human can even think up those words to say about themselves so God knows what He knows and we can't touch that. So let us humble ourselves and understand that God is ABSOLUTE and we are His Children inside His Oneness...skin color is an illusion!!

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

As I stated before if there's an oral tradition a written history and archeology evidence then most likely its true. Hence the evidence of human giants carries far more weight than a theory that has no oral tradition no written history and no archeology evidence. The existence of giants refutes that false theory and that hurts the feeling our modern day scientific atheist. If they admit to the existence of human giants then it really shows that the words of our ancestors are true and the archeology evidence of human giants that they continually try to hide is actually TRUE AND THAT HURTS THEIR FRAGILE EGO!!!

Rudolph M Garza

“Science is agnostic, meaning that it does not have a particular metaphysical view.”

However, I did get to know a theoretical physicist that believes the universe is a “network” the “learns” and is alive. That is what I call “a leap in faith”. I don’t know if there are more like him or if this “belief” of his will catch on.

Lawyers have their own definitions of “faith” and “religion”. Would love to see what they say.

As for me, I do not mind science. It has its benefits, after all.

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

This is the elephant in the room...the main reason it was accepted so quickly is b/c it was another way to prove African inferiority by saying if humans come out of Africa then the Africans come from apes and Europeans are higher humans which led to eugenics. The Europeans didn't like how the Greeks gave the Ethiopians such glowing compliments. They called the Ethiopians blameless peaceful ppl tall and beautiful and a place where the gods reside. Those compliments don't match the false narrative of ape like savages with no human soul but that theory fits their narrative perfectly. Plus it served another purpose which is to divide ppl and create more disagreement about God and the Spiritual Realm. Two can't walk together unless they agree and as long as we don't agree we never can become the United States and therefore the American experiment is a failure!!

Glenn G Caskey JR

Evolution is a fact.

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

We Americans don't know what peace looks like b/c we've never seen it and peaceful leaders produce peaceful citizens. Darwin was surprised how quickly his theory was accepted...what science has done was manipulate and fabricate information to try to create the evidence to make the theory true. We live in the lower realm where hate lies and negativity can win sometimes. The American hate system is so immature bitter and powerful that most peacemakers are silenced or attacked in America and that's not scientific that's social. The theory of evolution comes right out of the American hate system where they try to prove that human intelligence is equal to God's intelligence...which we know is: NOT!!!

Angelyn Joy Krout

It's science, plain and simple. These people probably just don't subscribe to evolution. Evolution is based on facts, not religion. Religion is mostly faith-based.

NLilly

Evolution is just a belief system from some twisted, ungodly person; whose mindset is surely alienated from the LORD GOD ALMIGHTY. /

My answer to banning the Holy Bible in Public Schools? Absolutely Not! The Holy Bible IS very Encouraging and Spirit uplifting; and allows the unrepentant sinner to find his/her pathway to the ALMIGHTY GOD through CHRIST JESUS in Peace, Love, Patience, and Understanding! And it also Helps to keep the repenting sinner closer to GOD in CHRIST JESUS. It also gives us Guidance in our Spiritual Man and Conscience to refuse the evil and all unrighteousness, and to do good and to keep thyself Pure and walking in Faith and Love. AMEN JESUS! HALLELUYAH! ♥ ♥

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

I wrote a paper on that theory in graduate school called "Fact or Faith"! No one has ever seen the missing link the actions of natural selection or the gradual change in species so that's clearly faith. As I mentioned before that theory is a new phenomenon and it follows the line of thinking that humans are getting smarter and more intelligent which isn't true at all. How we treat ppl determines intelligence therefore war like leaders create war like citizens and we Americans are super war like - we're the war gangsters. The American system of bitter hate as well as status fever has allowed a theory with NO real evidence to take hold and toss our emotions around. Why are human giants no longer a part of the American discourse? B/c it blows away that theory!! When God created the lower realm He said the time of refreshing has begun however after the evil spirits tampered with His creation we are now in a state of decay. God has cleansed us through the flood and next He will refine us through the use of fire and to all that God says: "Don't be afraid - I have seen how ALL have come before ME and trembled in fear." Seriously, who can really stand up against God?

Linda Callagy

IT IS SCIENCE. IT IS NOT FAITH OR RELIGION.

Deborah Jean Frankum Perkins

It is a Scientific Fact! IF SOMEONE DECIDES IT IS A RELIGION SO BE IT. Both

Taurence Duvael Chisholm

If there's an oral tradition a written history and archeology evidence then most likely its true. Hence the evidence of human giants carries way more weight than a theory that has no oral tradition no written history and archeology evidence. The existence of giants refutes that phony theory and that hurts the feeling our modern day scientific atheist. If they admit to the existence of human giants then it really shows that the words of our ancestors are true and the archeology evidence of human giants that they continually try to hide is actually TRUE AND THAT HURTS THEIR FRAGILE EGO!!!

Richard White

I think since the Bible says God fashioned man from the earth then man from mud seems like the way God made man. Evolution was just gods way of creating us. So in that way it is biblical but some teachers use evolution as proof against God thereby making enemies of the Christians. It's unfortunate.

Paul C Holsombeck

Evolution is not a religion, it is a scientific theory. It changes and expands as human knowledge and understanding change and expand. It lacks dogma and a creation myth. Atheism on the other hand is certainly a religion, having a creation myth and using various scientific theories as its dogma.

Farajallah Michael Yazbek

The only part of evolution I don't agree with is the evolution of man, or homo sapien. Genesis says God said, "Let us make man in our own image," meaning we were made separately from the others. And Genesis never says HOW God made the different species. The Theory Of Evolution and Genesis agree on the order of the creation of the species. And what made the species adapt and evolve in the first place? Just separate Man from the rest and evolution is, indeed, probable, as a tool God used for the creation of all the animals. If you look at the different evolutionary periods before man, there are five. Man was made on the 6th day, and God reserved the 7th (Sabbath) for relaxation and rest for man. Just read them together, think about the different eras and it all falls into place and makes Genesis possible in agreement with evolution.

Mrknowitall

Darwin's theory is a religion based upon evidence never observed and the omitting of scientific laws we know to be true and tested mainly the second law of thermodynamics. In 2002 in the city of Orlando I litigated the requirement of teaching the theory of evolution to both my daughters who were in public school, they were both excused form learning and testing on the subject as being true ! The school board had no option other than to grant the exception that was argued solely on the basis of scientific fact, I don't know about now but in 2002 in the Orlando public school system you could not be exempt from learning curriculum based upon religious belief only. I am not a scientist so I enlisted the help of Dr. Joseph Mastropaolo, PHD Professor Emeritus Long Beach State University. With his help we proved scientifically to the board and their lawyers that the Theory of Evolution is devoid of facts and is not true, what does exist is the complete opposite, De-volution !

Freddie Lee Cosgrove III

This is insanity. This legal action should have been rejected when it was presented to the court. How long ago was the Scopes trial ? Does no one rememeber that the issue of belief vs and faith, versus science and inquiry, was discussed then, with a decisive outcome and tremendous fallout?

It takes nothing to have a belief. Anyone can awaken with a belief, inspired by a dream. No one is harmed, in being expeosed to facts. We are all supposed to use our intellect to reason; consider facts and determine whether we belive them to be true or false.

I understand the value of faith to many people. Faith and belief are powerful tools for many people in coping with the realities of life. Realities of life exist. If somone does not pay their rent for long enough, they violate the terms of their lease, and barring an intercession of funds from some benefactor, they will be evicted. An infected wound will fester and worsen, unless there is some intervention. Loss of control of a car, is likely to result in some degree of collision. An organism deprived of nutrients and water, will eventually starve and die. These are all realities. Faith can help to hope there is relief to them, but they remain real.

Anyone can have a belief about anything. That is one of the delights to belief, there are no boundaries. There is nothing to restrain belief, unlike reality. Anyone is free to choose what to believe, and some of their choices may result in their injury or death. It has happened.

Evolution exists, it is real. DNA is present in a rat and in humans. We may not fully understand the mechanisms of evolution, but just as we generally understand the mechanisms of the earth's rotation, we generally understand the process of evolution. If someone chooses not to believe, that's fine, but the state or any other body, has not harmed them, by having intruded on their belief.

Just because someone chooses to have an alternative belief, does not allow them to penalize society for their choice.

Bruce Kevin Jones

I have gathered a completely different take upon the theory of evolution. Besides the fact that an unknown undergraduate with no standing among the professors at Dartmouth or where ever Darwin was a professor, because he simply plagiarized the work of the undergraduate.

The thinking was that there was no way in hell that an unknown writing a paper on the theory of evolution would get published or read by any of the faculty at all the colleges in England. So Darwin claimed he invented Evolution.

Now I stated all that to show that Darwin was never the authority upon his own 'science'.

Now we know that science has cloned sheep and other animals in experiments, the cloned copies don't live long but they live for a short period to study why they die so quickly after the process.

now the last point I wanted to place in my postulation: Rose Leaky found Homo Sapiens Sapiens footprints in the same level of ash layer as Australopithecus, or the first human. Rose's findings were buried because it flew in the face of established archaeology, Modern Man could not have been alive when the first Humans stood upright instead of walking like a monkey.

again another fossilized riverbed in Colorado shows a Homo Sapiens Sapiens walking his Tyrannosaurus Rex Pet Dinosaur down a beach, fossilized 65,000,000 years ago.

both of These examples are presented as existing in the Tome "from Atlantis to the Sphinx" of all sciences collated into one volume in 1998.

My postulation is this all these not Human and more like an Ape were exactly that cloning methods used to build slaves to do manual labor instead of the Humans doing the work. Proto-humans were invented in labs and tried out in the wild. Modern Humans from 65,000,000 years ago, (we did not evolve any more this is it for Humans), We developed along different lines than other sentint beings, we have a spirit and a soul where they do not, out evolution is in spirit not a body.

Humans I postulate are older than science wants to admit. Anyway the Bible can't know GOD'S time His time varies to mean more than what is said. I say it like that because God has a timeline that is seperate from ours. we live in linear time, one second after another another. God is in all time seconds both past and present as a spirit. That is the image we Humans are made in, God's Spiritual image, not a Hum,an body.

all the Cro-Magnons, Neanderthals and other offshoots were all genetic experiments in prehistory, before we had a war or had a catastrophe upset everything, so we had to start from scratch again and go the basic 6,000 years to modern era again All the 'other men' were experiments to make slaves for manual labor.

Humans are different we have a Spirit and a Soul, animals on Earth don't have a soul, they have a spirit but no soul. The Cro-Magnon, Neanderthal and the others did not have souls, because none of them were natural, they all were built in a laboratory. And for these reason is why there are so few skeletons of them, We did not make many, because they were all lousy slaves.

Now I have to point out the obvious, all other species alive on earth right now do not have the earlier version of that animal also still living. Only the evolved version.

So if Dolphins are evolved from killer dolphins, and Mastodons were alive up until the end of the last ice age. How come Mastodons are not walking around with Elephants? and there should be dolphins the size of killer whales still, because if we are descended from monkeys WHY ARE THERE STILL MONKEYS?

Geoffrey C. Olive

Atheism has only one “belief” - that there are no gods! There are literally hundreds or more religions with one or to many different gods that claim they are right with no supporting scientifically acceptable evidence! Even christianity has more than one in god the father, god the son, and god the holy ghost (whatever that is?👻) The most logical argument is no god or gods! Until someone genuinely comes back from being dead to prove it one way or another, humanity will never know!

Morgan Lewis Williams

Genesis never denied evolution, nor did it ever say that Adam and Eve were the first man and woman. Seth took a wife without it being called incest.

Geoffrey C. Olive

Atheism has only one “belief” - that there are no gods! There are literally hundreds or more religions with one or to many different gods that claim they are right with no supporting scientifically acceptable evidence! Even christianity has more than one in god the father, god the son, and god the holy ghost (whatever that is?👻) The most logical argument is no god or gods! Until someone genuinely comes back from being dead to prove it one way or another, humanity will never know!

Ronaldo

After reading this and similar articles, and some of the comments on them, I have come to the conclusion that very few have actually read Darwin's works on evolution. A lot of claims about what he said are flat out wrong. His books never said man evolved from apes or monkeys, nor did they ever state how life began, but these statements are often assigned to him, with some demanding proof of such from those who believe in the evolutionary theories.

Cheryl

Hold on. Science has already found that the genetic leap to our modern human genome in the evolutionary cycle was NOT possible under normal evolutionary conditions. The unique alteration in the second layer could NOT have evolved naturally. Therefore, there was Some Other Hand at work in taking the basic genome to the level of genetically modern humans about 200,000 years ago. So, the question then is, Who created that genetic leap outside of the evolutionary cycle? Both evolution and creation were at work to a certain point. Then Someone stepped in. Darwin - zero, God - One.

And also, we need to keep in mind that our Master Teacher said to render unto Caesar (governments, schools, institutions) that which is Ceasar's and unto God that which is God's. So, there's no place in "public" schools for this discussion. Yes, churches have to remember this one before trying to wrap God into the syllabus before we become like some of the Middle East countries where crazy religious fervor rules just like in the Inquisition.

Rev. Michelle Love

Religion is defined as "the belief in and worship of a superhuman power or powers, especially a God or gods."

Atheism is defined as "a lack of belief or a strong disbelief in the existence of a God or any gods."

Darwinism is defined as being "the theory of the evolution of species by natural selection advanced by Charles Darwin."

With all that being said, I believe the judge was correct in his decision because atheism is not a religion and Darwinism is merely a theory.

Ramon de Venecia Josue

We need the Bible, but we don't need "religion" to make us better or be morally good. having said that Faith and Religion become synonymous. Besides according to John 3:16 "Believe" not have faith. And according to Matt. 23:23 Faith is of the Law. So again the Created or Creation needs the EXACT WORD of the CREATOR. Never Religion. The LORD did not teach nor practice any religion including Judaism.

Michele Marie Miles

Evolution is science. It has nothing to do with religion. If the religious fanatics want everything they deem atheistic or anti-god, then they would only be teaching the bible to children as everything could be skewed that way. This is where it is up to parents to help their children learn what is and is not and to have discussions with their children about their beliefs as a family. It is not up to the schools to do this. Parents are just becoming lazy and want the schools to do everything. Learning starts at home and if you want your children to grow up in a bible based home, it is up to you to help them understand that the entire world is not that way and guide them to the faith you want them to learn. Jeez.

Thomas J Kasprik

Everyone is born Atheist Teaching a child faith based on one religion is indoctrination

It took me years to unlearn religion

Wayne M. Delia

Atheism is certainly a religion. I use my house as an atheist church. But when I apply to the IRS for my religious property and income tax exemptions, they seem to think I'm Cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs, for some reason, and they deny my rightful exemption. Am I being religiously persecuted?

Wendy Irene Copeland

Personally, I BELIEVE that a creator started original life. I ACCEPT that evolution has continued that life, as we see evolution all around us. I myself have mutations in some genes that cause a disease process that can now be inherited. I have faith in God AND believe science to be what we know at this time. However, it is my personal belief and I would not want to force my personal belief on anyone. Schools should teach facts as contained in science. Churches should teach and follow faith as contained in their holy book. Kep the two separate.

Steven Ferrell

The couple is correct, it is teaching a religion against God.
If one is taught, then Creation should also be taught.

For those who wish to think they came from monkeys, you probably did. I believe the Bible and that God made man and woman and that is where I came from.

I have been to and taken part in 5 autopsies and I can say after seeing the insides of a person, after hold a brain, a heart, lungs, etc. in my hands, these bodies did not just happen.

Charles Paul Biederman

Evolution is not a religion it is science GOD created all things

Donald Michael Woodward

Scientific testing has not produced the needed evidence to explain how life itself began. We cannot create life, and evolution only shows the historical descent of a life form, not the mechanism by which this is accomplished, such as natural selection. It is possible that evolution was the method chosen by God to ensure the continuation and development of life.

Alan Jones

I think that there is a danger of confusing Science with Belief.

People can believe what the scientific process reveals as testable, verifiable and current hypotheses and theories.

People can believe in their subjective experiences and “revealed truths” which need not be testable or verifiable.

I have faith in the scientific method but my personal beliefs may include ideas that I know are outside the remit of science.

The material world is the realm of science, the spiritual is the realm of experience, One realm is objective and measurable - the other is subjective and may or may not be open to scientific scrutiny.

Heaven forbid we end up in a situation where beliefs need to be open to laboratory testing.

Science is Science with objective methodology, Faith is Faith with subjective, personal relevance.

Alan /|\

Aaron Shayda

Evolution is not a religion. Why do people believe that religion and evolution can’t co-exist? I believe that schools should teach reading, writing and math but that’s it. Tax dollars shouldn’t be wasted on anything controversial in schools.

Beyond that, it should be up to the parents to teach. Parents need to up their game. This is what you signed on for having kids.

I don’t see why God creating humans isn’t in line with the theory of evolution. God maybe created evolution to allow humans to adapt to climates, food sources, diseases, etc. All part of the BiG plan. So what if we started as apes. We evolved into his likeness as he planned.

Rev. Dr. Father JJ

I was a bit interested until I read "And Evolution says we "evolved" from Apes. Ok then why are there still apes?' We evolved from a common ancestor and are closely related to chimps and bonobos, sharing about 98.7% DNA.

It is thought that around 200,000 to 300,000 years ago Homo sapiens branched off from the great apes. And here we are, and here the apes are.

There are intermediate forms not just of Homo sapiens but of horses, hippos, dinosaurs to birds, and many other. the old saw that there are no intermediate examples is another badly built ruse by the kkkristofascists to deny science and scientific facts and instead reserve the claim of truth to their silly 6000 year old, 7 days-a-making, flat earth nonsense.

Canis familiaris descended from a gray wolf ancestor, DNA shows about a 99% similarity. in other words we are in effect WATCHING Canis familiaris change from a wolf to a wolf-like dog and eventually to a separate species. there are changes in the jaws of dogs that differ distinctly from those of wolfs. and this was long before people started selective breeding for mini-poodles and dachshunds. human dog (and chicken) breeding mimic a bit of how nature works. and how evolution works.

since everything you wrote was without a doubt Ctrl/C directly from that stupid answers in genesis website. you're just repeating the same old incorrect and intentionally misleading tripe without the knowledge that backs up the actual science.

why do you people insist that your pretend religion and clown god is real but nature, natural science and evolution is false? that desperate to force-feed your religious beliefs down the world's throat?

Oh and BTW, according to the US Supreme Court (I googled it you know) atheism are NOT religions, it is another one of those specious arguments you and your ilk like to promulgate.

"The Supreme Court has recognized atheism as equivalent to a “religion” for purposes of the First Amendment on numerous occasions, most recently in McCreary County, Ky. v. American Civil Liberties Union of Ky., 545U.S. 844, 125 S.Ct. 2722, 162 L.Ed.2d 729 (2005).   The Establishment Clause itself says only that “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion,” but the Court understands the reference to religion to include what it often calls “nonreligion.” "

and further:

"...the Court has unambiguously concluded that the individual freedom of conscience protected by the First Amendment embraces the right to select any religious faith or none at all.

Id. at 52-53, 105 S.Ct. 2479.   In keeping with this idea, the Court has adopted a broad definition of “religion” that includes non-theistic and atheistic beliefs, as well as theistic ones.   Thus, in Torcaso v. Watkins, 367 U.S. 488, 81 S.Ct. 1680, 6 L.Ed.2d 982, it said that a state cannot “pass laws or impose requirements which aid all religions as against non-believers, and neither can [it] aid those religions based on a belief in the existence of God as against those religions founded on different beliefs.”

re: chaplaincy in the military, you're conflating two issues; one that a chaplain has to be from a religious organization and two; being allowed to perform chaplain duty in the military as an atheist means atheism is a religion.

chaplaincy is about tending to the emotional needs of military members whether it's an extension of an established ('recognized' (see: The Satanic Temple TST) religion or simple as an outreach from a humanist organization that can achieve the same (or better, really) goal(s).

so the supremes did not recognize atheism as a religion but rather recognized that atheists can be refused chaplaincy simply because the are atheists, therefore for this purpose (as well as others) the court recognized that they are similar in how the law seems them.

now why would you believe that because a family can request a grave marker that signifies the deceased's belief in something other than religion that it means the SC has declared it a religion? you appear to not be reading between the lines but rather, skipping lines as it suits your argument.

so everything you wrote (to which I am responding to) i unequivocally wrong, misinformed, misleading or intentionally applied to try and prove something 'special' about your religion

Daniel Gray

No its not. The peppermill moth in England is a fine example. Evolutionists swore that the two moths in question were the same species. Sadly for them it was found they were two completely different species. And Evolution says we "evolved" from Apes. Ok then why are there still apes?

Jeffrey Schwartz, professor of anthropology at the University of Pittsburgh has stated "it was and still is the case that the formation of a new species, by any mechanism, has never been observed."

Darwin has stated "transitional forms leading from the less to the more evolved have never been found in the fossil records, and if evolution was fact, there should be a plethora of them."

Famed Evolutionist Leslie Orgel, has stated "neither proteins nor nucleic acids could have arisen without the other,. And so, at first glance, one might have to conclude that life could never, in fact, have originated by chemical means. The precise events giving rise to the RNA world remain unclear. . . . investigators have proposed many hypotheses, but evidence in favor of each of them is fragmentary at best." In laymens terms this means Evolution is a theory.

There isnt any clue as to how the one-celled organisms of the primordial world could have evolved into the vast array of complex multi-celled invertebrates of the Cambrian period. Even dogmatic evolutionist admits that: The Cambrian explosion was the most remarkable and puzzling event in the history of life and they have no idea why it happened overnight in the history of the world.

The main scientific reason why there is no evidence for evolution in either the present or the past (except in the creative imagination of evolutionary scientists) is because one of the most fundamental laws of nature precludes it. The law of increasing entropy -- also known as the second law of thermodynamics -- stipulates that all systems in the real world tend to go "downhill," as it were, toward disorganization and decreased complexity. This law of entropy is, by any measure, one of the most universal, best proved laws of nature. It applies not only in physical and chemical systems, but also in biological and geological systems -- in fact, in all systems, without exception. No exception to the second law of thermodynamics has ever been found -- not even a tiny one. Like conservation of energy (the "first law"), the existence of a law so precise and so independent of details of models must have a logical foundation that is independent of the fact that matter is composed of interacting particles.

Oh and BTW, according to the US Supreme Court, Atheism/Humanism ARE Religions which is why they ordered the US Military to allow Pastors and houses of worship for these, as well as their symbols being placed in Military Cemeteries.

Rev. BH

"Many leading evolutionists have recognized the essentially 'religious' character of evolutionism ... That quoted paragraph under "Science of Faith" above, is well written, convincing, but tricky. Mainly, a play on the word "believe". As in science believes in evolution, therefore its only a belief, aka a religion. Had it been stated scientists accept evolution, (as they do), the whole paragraph falls apart. Saying I believe in love, does not make love a religion. Saying I believe in being nice, does not make niceness a religion. A nice try, but tricky lawsuit, yet silly.

James Riggle-Johnson

Religion at its core always comes back to a creator of some kind. Whether that’s one or multiple creators or elements and amino acids or whatever, there is always a creator. Of course, there is the Church of Scientology which is neither religion nor science, but alien spirits or something. Science on the other hand is always changing based on what new facts or methods come into play.

Most religions teach a God/Gods created everything. I do question how human civilization could have come from two individuals. I seriously doubt that could be possible but it’s a story in the bible and people believe it.

I wonder why both a creator and evolution can’t exist together. The bible says God created the heavens and the earth in six days, but what is one day to a God? Is it possible that God caused the big bang and caused the right elements and proteins to come together and create life. And that life evolved over billions of years? Why does it always have to be one or the other?

I’ve said this before… God did not write the bible. Men were trying to bring meaning to their lives and answer the question why we are here. These were power hungry men trying to control the lives of others. I think God, if they exist is beyond our comprehension. Neither male nor female but something more. Just my two cents.

arawngraalrd

Go back to the Bhagavad Gita, where Sankhye Yoga, the foundation of Science, is recommended as a religion... Teaching Evolution as a belief, is the error. Public School, is the other error.

Daniel Todd Kamm

But it's just my theory...!

Daniel Todd Kamm

So someone is wasting whatever minutes they have remaining of their lives, other peoples lives, and tax payers' dollars on this? The greatest evidence yet that modern humans have, indeed, evolved ... from .... And some can de-evolve as well! Peace...tk

Ealdormon Piparskeggr Robinson

I think Gregor Mendel would have a different view than the plaintiffs.

Robert Gagnon

Iv'e always heard it called Darwin's theory of evolution. A theory is not a religion, although someone could use a theory as a base for a religion. But then it would be referred to as the church or religion of evolution. Daughter Sarah will just have to suffer through these lessons and bear the brunt of the same information every other kid learns in school.

Rev. Carol M Anaski-Figurski

The judge is right evolution is not religion & atheist is not religion. ULC guide to divinity copywrite 2016 pg4. " atheistism is not a religion any more than bald is a haircolor."

Rev. Dr. Father JJ

Just one more silly, stupid attempt by the kkkristofascists to try and get their religion into schools

Intelligent Design was laughed out of the classroom...it was just 'goD' but wearing funny glasses, big nose and mustache

I think the biggest shame is on the part of the lawyers who now better, unless they're kkkris chins, in which they too operate at a stunning high level of cognitive dissonance

Back to the defendants; they are either so stupid as to have literally no idea of what science is or, they are falsifying a complaint to try and keep science out of schools...thereby dumbing down public education to a level that suits and pleases them

And some here wonder why others of us here hold those people in such disdain. Trying to convince the court that science is religion...that atheism is a religion...it's like saying Bald is a Hair Color

la mamma dei cretini e sempre incinta

Michael Burton

Change the mandate to teaching paleontology and let people reach thoer own conculsions.

Reverend Paula Copp

Evolution is provable. It’s not a religion. Just because someone doesn’t like a fact doesn’t make it anything other than a fact.

Colleen McAllister

Evolution is not religion. Evolution is a more detailed explanation of how God created. The order in which everything was created - or evolved - matches up. I find it much harder to believe that such a universe as we live in just "happened" to come into being with no intelligence behind it. Too bad the couple has such weak faith that simple science threatens them.

Najah P Tamargo

Najah Tamargo-USA

This is a very old fight. If a child is to receive a FULL education, they need to know both sides of the story, and be able to decide, independently, what THEY believe. If parents don't want their children to study, science, world history etc., they should send their kids to a parochial school of their denomination. This is NOT an issue that belongs in the court room! Remember "separation of church and state?"

Gary Young

Firstly, they've misunderstood the THEORY of evolution. I quote "It bestows upon ‘nature’ both intelligence and supernatural power to select and discern". It does nothing of the sort! Random mutations happen, those that convey an advantage outweigh others therefore proliferate. Also, scientific THEORY is always open to revision based on new information, such is the nature of science. Religion is usually a set of dogmas, beliefs, without objective foundation that are considered immutable. So easily identified as non-scientific.

John P Maher

WELL I SEE EVOLUTION EVERYWHERE every day, HUMAN and ANIMAL and PLANT, THE CHRISTIANS SEE GOD EVERYWHERE, I HAVE NEVER SEEN or HEARD " GO D " ONLY EVOLVED HUMANS TALKING of "GOD" ENDLESSLY ITS ALL" B S "

Gerardo Salazar

A friend of mine, a Jesuit priest who was also a geneticist, was giving an interview in his lab and when the interviewer asked him if his research would be akin to playing God his answer was, and I will never forget, that they were discussing Science but if she wanted to talk religion he would be happy to remove his white coat, across the street, change into his black clothes and then they could start. His point was that you don’t mix religion with Science. Evolution is well beyond being a mere theory and there’s ample proof of this fact. People are afraid of losing their faith by asking questions because they’re afraid of the answer. I do believe in God, our Creator, but really don’t care how He did it and each new scientific discovery is proof enough for me of His magnificence.

Michael Hunt

This is a comical suit. Evolution theory is based on scientific testing, not blind faith. Science is not the "religion of atheism", it's our best understanding of the world we live in. If you want to argue that atheism is a religious belief we can have that discussion, but it is not a religion itself since it is simply the lack of belief in a creator or religion.