Hate Resurfaces in America

Carol W Waldenburg

Anyone take exception to the manner in which the article was written, or rather Slanted?!?! Obviously the writer is a hater and I hated the article! The Southern or Confederate flag is about a people's history - you cannot just erase that and assign to it the strongest sentiment YOU want. It's history people . . . This BLM and tearing down of statues and monuments is the new fascism.

Rev. A. Schulz

Hate is such a waste of emotion. Unchecked by reason and compassion, it runs wild leaving high costs in lives and other damages. It is easily created from feelings of inadequacy and fear. It enslaves the hater making the hater easily led and controlled. Thereby creating personal wealth and power for any charismatic schemer and manipulator who was able to stir up such a frenzied emotion that defies logic, evidence or its lack,, and blocks off all rational thought. All things that represent what we now refer to as a repugnant past can be transformed into reminders of lessons painfully learned and never to be repeated. We do this by 1.personal growth in faith and love for all life on our home we call planet Earth.2. stop taking sides in this debate. it only adds more fuel to the raging inferno of hate and achieves nothing constructive. 3.learn to see, honor, and respect the dignity of life within each person you meet as your equal and sibling "Child of God."

Don W

Those statues were erected in the spirit of reconciliation after a horrible war caused by terrible leadership on both sides. The people behind the movement to get rid of these statues are trying to stir up hatred among the people of the United States in order to divide us once again. Instead of learning from history we are letting haters and their identity politics rip the country apart.

A druid

Yes, hate speech is odious, annoying, and uncouth. However, it is legally protected by the exact same sentence which gives us the right to gripe about it. Which is in the exact same paragraph which gives us, the ULC, the right to free belief. Just sayin"

Vincent

A statue isn't the problem, it's there that's it its stone. Nothing More Nothing Less. The Ideas for what the statue stands for is over. The flag is older than the civil war. The civil war wasn't about slavery, it was about taxes, when Lincoln freed the slaves it became about slavery. But it wasn't a major issue. If Lincoln hadn't freed the slaves and the north had won I don't think people would have cared back then. Tearing down the statues isn't the way to fix the problem because you can't fix it. It happened it's history. The statues should be a reminder of how horrible that time was. It should remind you not to allow that to happen again. Remember those who forget the past are doomed to repeat it. You should honor the civil rights movement, where are those statues standing. Where can you find statues of people holding hands, singing we shall over come and other inspired messages. We should honor peace, love, charity, kindness. Those should be statues. Where are the inspirational statues at, friends hugging, shaking hands. Or The ones with kids playing. We As Americans seem to only honor tragedy. It needs to change and soon!

Tina S

I love your post AZRI! You are so right!! Quit fighting amongst ourselves....my sentiments exactly!

Azri

ok, not gonna be real popular.

reparations? ARE YOU KIDDING ME??!! who is gonna pay that bill? cause me? I've never owned anyone in my life. why should i pay a DIME!!? first though, the Native Americans should get theirs!

 that particular  flag  is historically  about  MORE than just slavery.  that flag  is  now a tool to sway peoples  minds  or  make some rabid beasts.  no matter  how  much these  chuckle heads  are TRYING  to rewrite American history, those statues should stay. if they are all butt  hurt about em,  why  not  go BUY a piece of land, commission an artist  and  BUILD  YOUR  OWN GOOFY STATUE!! 

i watched various  middle eastern ijjits  tear down monuments  of Buddha....think bout that..it wasn't  and  isn't about the actual statues, it's about ERASING all signs  of what came before, the better to control peoples  minds, give  them 1  form of history and make all others non existent/illegal..the  middle east? they  do it  by physical force, here? mental/emotional propaganda force.  it's ALL BS!!

as for "racism"? yeah. i'm BEYOND done with that. anyone wanna call me racist? i just say "yes i am, i am racist against IDIOTS, ASSHOLES & LOSERS!! which one are YOU"

it ticks me off how various white power rallies are EVIL, but the black panthers can chant DEATH TO WHITES babies to adults and no one says JACK!! ((check youtube,...it's there...but no one says anything about THAT)

what we have here are a few who want to stay in power, have dumbed down the mass's, and pay a few hypocritical malcontents that would be unhappy if they BECAME king... to keep us, the common decent folk at each others necks.

"DIVIDE AND CONQUER"!!! and most folks are too wrapped up in their own BS to see it or admit to seeing it..

your damn right hate is hate, i'd like to see the hate be equal across the board.

another thing that frosts my biscuits, is this , you can be part of and proud of ANY race in the world, EXCEPT WHITE!! cause the minute you voice pride in your peoples accomplishments? your automatically a racist..and immediately harassed at worst and ignored at best.

see people? the propaganda experts, they know how to use certain words to either GET your attention or MAKE people dislike/ignore you and therefor ignore anything you say. just by labeling you with something.

hate groups? hell ALL of us are being played.

   in the end? i am tired  of  people using "slavery" of an ancestor as an excuse to be a fuckup..it's not their Fault!! oh no..it's  cause they are repressed and held  down by  someone or group of someones. it has  NOTHING  to do with their choices  in life, NOTHING  to do with the fact that some people are lazy whiny screw-ups!! nope..it's  cause some nebulous  ancestor was a slave.  *FACEPALM*

that whole argument "slavery" is bunk anyway. because slavery is still going on today !!! the hypocrites need to stop flapping their gums about it. or rather stop blaming someone about way back in the day stuff and maybe try n rescue some modern day slaves. if slavery is bad? then help stop it NOW!! stop whining about the past ..for all intents and purposes make an impact now, not go on about some random ancestor. they are dead, help the living.

OK THERE YA HAVE THE OPINION OF ONE WOMAN WHO IS TIRED OF BEING HIT ON AND POLITELY DECLINING AND BEING CALLED RACIST AND THATS THE BEST I'VE BEEN CALLED.

now go talk amongst y'selves.

cheers!

Tina S

I want to share I'm a Caucasian, single mom, been married/divorced 1x while trying to conform to "society" before coming out in 2000. I was raised by racist/judgmental parents. I was abused mentally and physically by my parents and sisters (not sexually). I was raped as by a neighbor boy, went home, tried to take a shower, but mom caught me. She asked what happened so I told her. She said, "If you weren't wearing shorts, he wouldn't have been tempted!".

My ex is half-Cuban and very abusive. When our daughter was about 5 years old, after being investigated numerous times by CPS for molestation on her, he was awarded custody even after being caught committing perjury. I hadn't been investigated or involved with CPS ever. She was legally kidnapped, because as the saying goes, "Money talks, BS walks." My son's father walked out as soon as he found out I was pregnant. I've had issues keeping any relationship for over 3 years as I have trust issues and was recently diagnosed with PTSD from all these events.

I share all this because I want you to know how easy it would be for me to hate! I live in a part of Texas where being part of the LGBTQ will get you killed. It's on the news almost weekly stating how a member of the LGBTQ community is jumped, hospitalized or killed simply for being who they are - nothing more. I've raised my son with the mind set, "We all bleed red!"

HERE IS SOME FOOD FOR THOUGHT OR AS WE SAY "CHEW ON THIS" Hate is Hate just like Love is Love! A flag doesn't stand for hate anymore than guns or knives kill people - people kill people! Guns are inanimate cold metal objects that are incapable of shooting themselves. They are no more dangerous than knives are.....knives are inanimate objects that can't stab people - people stab people!

I don't personally care for the Confederate Flag due to what the KKK, Skin Heads, Nazi's and others have "Made it stand for". The statues are historical not racial. Sure there was slavery and as a Caucasian, I'm not proud of that fact; however, that's history. Should we erase all of history? This is ridiculous! Let me give you just a couple examples: The Mayflower/Thanksgiving - it involved the Native Americans. Eventually they lost their land and were "mixed"/"married" into other races, causing their pure blood to virtually vanish. How about the Salem Witch Trials? Many were never proven to be witches. These are things we all learn about in school, are history and can arguably considered racist or hate crimes too.

There's quite a few Muslims and Hispanics in this area, so should I judge my fellow men and woman? Should I see them all as terrorists and illegal aliens? The same people arguing against the "Racist Things" are the same people who are allowed their own "exclusive" schools and scholarships! Why is this being allowed? It's becoming a "Reverse Racism" now! NO RACE should be allowed any exclusive anything! The statues are historical, leave them or put them into a museum. We need to quit allowing a handful of people to tell American's how to run America! America WAS created on prayer....IN GOD WE TRUST!

Come on America, a flag is material...people bleed red, but the most important thing to remember is: When we fight with each other all we do is show other countries that we are weaker as we fight and kill each other. "United we stand - Divided we fall"

James

This is a dangerous conversation. Yet, if we want to destroy our history, and the facts. Where will it stop. Punish people for thoughts, crimes of their people 5 generations ago? If that can even be proven. In that case, Everyone is kin to some criminal! No yelling how many would be in our family tree. We must get back to reality on this. No one alive in the United States owns, has owned, or are even on to anyone who did own a slave. Every demographic was used, bought and sold in to slavery. So why is it only the south has this reputation? Why are there still slaves being sold around the world today? Why are we having emotions over something we never witnessed. It's because this is a repeating social experiment to keep the people from seeing that the govt class are the owners, the rich bought a ticket out of the race, the middle class pay so that they aren't poor, the wealthy pay for the middle class and poor class to stay peaceful and produce the products of commerce. While the political class sturdy the pot to show that they can have a seat at the table. It's life. Deal with it and find your place before to die alone, sad, and broken. Say a prayer with me. I am happy, thank you for my life, that you for the treasures I do not see yet. Help me find peace. Through friends, lovers, family or war please let me find peace. Amend

Prof. ML Watrous

Good luck on getting rid of hate groups. But, if your are going to try it, you should prioritize them and start with the worst one first ... and that would be Black Lives Matter. Let's see how many people come back with a hateful opinion rather than a thoughtful review of who is actually marching up and down the streets with songs to kill police.

Bill Fox

The day will come when someone comes to take away your history. It is inevitable. Know history but don't love it. Love people.

Patrick Fay

As a member of ULC I find some of these comments truly diturbing. I will not coment on a flag, statue, tattoo, motorcycle or, any oter sysmbol you think reprsents hate. I understand there are those who idealize and possibly even pray to these things. To that I say; if that's your choice then good luck with that. my problem is when one person hurts another. this should be our focus,

Patti

William Tappan Thompson is the man who created the Confederate flag we see flown today. He created it for a specific reason quoted here: In a series of editorials, Thompson wrote why he felt the design should be chosen to represent the Confederacy:

As a people, we are fighting to maintain the Heaven-ordained supremacy of the white man over the inferior or colored race; a white flag would thus be emblematical of our cause.[5]… Such a flag…would soon take rank among the proudest ensigns of the nations, and be hailed by the civilized world as THE WHITE MAN'S FLAG [sic].[6]

This alone should make any person who values equality to distance themselves from such a symbol. I am from Ohio, we were not part of the states that committed treason against the United States and maybe that is why I don't understand why the flag of another country, founded by those who committed treason against the United States should be flown in our country with such high regard.

Sean

Who writes this stuff and why does ULC think it is actually reporting something? This is what we expect from the MSM and more than a little disappointed ib the lack of knowledge. Maybe if our schools started teaching American History again you would have some actual knowledge to use when writing something.

Ed

Hate has been in existence. Sites like ULC just pick and choose which one they want to cover:

"The Dartmouth Review, an independent newspaper at the private Ivy League college, reported that protesters marched into the Baker-Berry Library shouting profanity and berating =white students.= Protesters reportedly shouted “F– you, you filthy white f–-” “f– you and your comfort” and “f– you, you racist s–.”

One student abandoned the study room and ran out of the library. The protesters followed her out of the library, shouting obscenities the whole way.

One woman was reportedly pinned to a wall by protesters who shouted “filthy white b–-” in her face."

Here, there is specifically a gang of black thugs chasing down specifically white students, pining them against a wall, committing various acts of assault and battery, and yet, it's "not a hate crime," nor does it get mass coverage. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/nov/16/black-lives-matter-protesters-berate-white-student/

As for Charoletsville, http://thefreethoughtproject.com/confirmed-police-told-stand-charlottesville/ Cops were ORDERED by the mayor, to stand down, and NOT do anything, whatsoever.

Then, to add to it, instead of letting the UTR protesters to leave through a peaceful method, they forced them to go through the BLM and ANTIFA thugs, who were committing various acts of assault and battery: http://dailycaller.com/2017/08/14/heres-how-the-virginia-state-police-provoked-violence-at-charlottesville/

So, being beat on by unknown numbers of thugs, in what was initially a peaceful protest, if you say you won't get into your car, and get the 4311 out of there, and d@mn the rest, for fear of your life, you're lying!

biblical scholar

What about Seattle where there is a city sponsored statue of VLADIMIR LENNIN (communist murderer and basis for dracula). A friend of mine told me hundreds of liberals gather around the statue daily to pray to this evil man and many more pray silently from their work or home. LIBERALS truly lack the capacity for rational thought. I'd pray for them but Jesus knows they're hopeless anyway.

John Owens

This flag flap is hysterically funny. North Korea, which we all know is run by a little nut, just lobbed a missile over Japan. East Texas and southern Louisiana are under water, and people are letting their emotions be dictated to them by a few yahoos protesting our history. LOOK AT ANTIFA'S FLAGS! Look at the flags with the raised fist in them! And you let morons tell you we need to tear down statues and do away with old flags. Most of you are suffering from stupid white guilt that is a figment of the imagination, and you think you can redeem yourselves by siding with the yahoos. Those yahoos don't care how much you support them. They won't be satisfied until they have everything you have worked for.

I am a patch-holder in one of the oldest and largest Motorcycle clubs in the world. We are in the US and Canada, S. Korea, all over Europe and the United Kingdom. We are not racist. We judge people not based on the color of their skin, but the content of their character and the kind of motorcycle they ride. We are, like the song says, red and yellow, black and white. We wear the US flag on our left side and the Confederate flag, slightly lower, on the right side. We dare anyone to try to take it.

If you watch and believe the news, white people and black people are always trying to kill each other, but if you look at your own daily life, you will see that is all a big lie. We work together, use the same restaurants and laundramats, go to church together, have barbecues together, fish, hunt, shoot skeet together. We don't call each other dirty names or rape the women or steal from each other or ANY OF THAT JUNK.

This flag flap is just another evolution of the politics of division and diversion. Divert the attention of the people from what is important and divide them against one another. Please don't fall for it.

Frank Villari

Hate hasn't "resurfaced," it is simply still existing. There will always be hate. Today this hate seems more prevalent because of the perpetually offended who won't allow it to die the painful death it deserves. The offended keep finding a flag or a statue to pin their own hatred upon instead of learning some history of which they speak. I find rewriting history, trying to forget history, offensive. When we repeat history due to our ignorance of it, the offended will have yet more to be offended over - their own ignorance which caused it.

Lynn Gideon

I don't usually comment, but when we think we know all the facts about history, we find out we know nothing.

Your history lesson for the day.

Robert E Lee was married to George Washington's granddaughter. He worked with Grant during the Mexican-American war and became a decorated war hero defending this country He believed slavery was a great evil and his wife broke the law by teaching slaves to read and write. After the civil war he worked with Andrew Johnson's program of reconstruction. He became very popular with the northern states and the Barracks at West Point were named in his honor in 1962. He was a great man who served this country his entire life in some form or other. His memorial is now being called a blight. No American military veteran should be treated as such. People keep yelling, "You can't change history." Sadly you can. This is no better than book burnings. ISIS tried rewriting history by destroying historical artifacts. Is that really who we want to emulate? As they tear down this "blight" keep these few historical facts in your mind. No military veteran and highly decorated war hero should ever be treated as such. This is not Iraq and that is not a statue of Sadam.

IN ADDITION: Lee was also very torn about the prospect of the South leaving the Union. His wife’s grandfather George Washington was a huge influence on him. He believed that ultimately, states’ rights trumped the federal government and chose to lead the Southern army. His estate, Arlington, near Washington DC was his home and while away fighting the war, the federal government demanded that Lee himself pay his taxes in person. He sent his wife but the money was not accepted from a woman. When he could not pay the taxes, the government began burying dead Union soldiers on his land. The government is still burying people there today. It is now called Arlington National Cemetery. DO THEY WANT TO TEAR THAT UP ALSO??

Eric k

This flag of the Confederacy is a symbol of hate plain and simple, I live in an area where it is flown and everyone of those that do are some racist pig ,

Clayton Beardmore

The truth must be told - you can't (or shouldn't) rewrite history.

Beth K

The Confederate monuments - many put up in the 1930s - is not the issue. Yes, those who do not remember their history are doomed to repeat it. There are other images, including those with Nazi flags and other images. http://www.wusa9.com/news/local/dc/wwii-vets-shaken-by-nazi-flags-in-charlottesville/465189398 These neo-Confederates have merged with the neo-Nazis. Many of their ideas are similar.

This is not an American tradition. 75 years ago, the US - including those from North and South, black and white, fought to defeat the German Nazi government and all that the ideology stood for. These people are not patriots. They are not American. They are traitors rallying for the enemy - enemies which the United States fought to protect - and many of all walks of life died to protect.

Robert

i completely agree with what Rev.Hoagie and Troy McLean have stated, it is just some lib tard writing who does not know up from down

Rev. Hoagie

"The crimes of the Confederate States of America are well documented." Yes, they have. And the Confederacy and the people who committed those crimes were defeated in war, punished as citizens, and paid the price for their wrongs. That was over 150 years ago. They are all dead. Any slaves are all dead. The only hate I hear and see is the hate put forward by people like you who refuse to let the Civil War end. It's over. Done. We grown-ups have healed and are not full of hate. You hate the South because you hate Southern people. You are a bigot.

Southerners today consider the Confederacy part of their history and their heritage and quite frankly they are correct. The Confederacy was part of our history as Americans and as such we should accept the good with the bad. Bear in mind the Confederacy was pardoned after the war by the very men who fought it.

Our country is great but it is not perfect and the worst thing a people or a culture can do is erase its past. It is ignorant and fascistic to do so. You also need to remember over 600,000 Americans died in that war and they were ALL Americans. Slavery was an important reason for the Civil War but it was not the only reason. I'd like to point out the Civil War was not a slave rebellion. It was a war fought between white people to free black people. It was the party of Abolition, the Republican Party that won and freed the slaves. And it was the party of Slavery, the Democrats that supported slavery, Jim Crow, segregation, lynching, separate but equal, racial discrimination and who started the Ku Klux Klan to control the freed blacks in the South. To this day every major city controlled by the Democrats maintains a "plantation" called a ghetto. Clean up the Democrats alive today then worry about dead Confederates.

Rev Troy McLean

I have to agree that hate is hate. But a flag is not hate. The flag that you argue over shows how shallow your faith is. The flag of the south had nothing to do with slavery, get your facts straight. It was about the rights if the states. Now look where this nation has gone. We all want the rights given to us by God, not other men. Seriously, I had family fight on the union side, was born in the south. I sent 28+ years in service of the nation. I still believe that everyone has their personal rights, even if it might be in constant to my believes.