A prominent Muslim civil rights group is condemning Elon Musk for labeling a collection of Muslim aid organizations as “terrorists” in a post on X, igniting a firestorm of criticism just as Ramadan, the holiest month in the Islamic calendar, begins.
The Council on American-Islamic Relations (CAIR) is now calling on Musk to issue an immediate apology, warning that his reckless allegations could inflame Islamophobia, endanger innocent Muslim lives, and undermine the very principles of justice and fairness.
Musk’s Comments
Elon Musk, the billionaire CEO and government advisor overseeing the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), took aim at more than a dozen Muslim humanitarian organizations that have received grant funding from USAID, the federal agency responsible for managing foreign aid.
Responding to a viral post on X that falsely claimed over $150 million in USAID grants had gone to “terrorist-linked organizations,” Musk amplified the accusation, posting:
“Why pay terrorist organizations and certain countries to hate us when they’re perfectly willing to do it for free?”
The controversial post prompted quick backlash.
CAIR Responds
CAIR wasted no time in pushing back against Musk’s inflammatory rhetoric. According to CAIR officials, Musk’s comments were completely "baseless", and they alleged that he was accusing the groups of being linked to terrorism simply because they have ‘Muslim’, ‘Islam’, or ‘Palestine’ in their name. And Nihad Awad, CAIR’s National Executive Director, directly called out the billionaire’s remarks:
“This kind of rhetoric fuels Islamophobia, endangers innocent lives, and undermines the values of justice and equality,” he wrote. “Do better.”
CAIR’s official account also blasted Musk’s statements as defamatory and offensive, making clear that his remarks not only smear legitimate aid organizations but also endanger American Muslims and their charitable work:
“Anyone who see [sic] the word ‘Islam’ in the name of an American charity and then immediately declares that the charity must be a ‘terrorist organization’ is a hateful person who must know next to nothing about American Muslims and their contributions to our society, including humanitarian work,” they wrote.
As the backlash mounts, Musk has yet to respond to accusations that he is inciting violence and defaming Muslim communities. However, given his oversight of DOGE, the targeted aid programs remain at risk of being slashed or eliminated entirely.
What do you think? Is it appropriate for a high-level presidential advisor to use his platform to call Muslims terrorists?
206 comments
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El Gringo
Love your sense of humor. Musk is saving the American people billions of dollars. The housing industry needs to build more housing and much of that construction is done by immigrants. Very little federal money goes to the illegals.
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Frederick J Quick Jr
Elon Musk is doing a good job, saving the American people billions of dollars. We have too much homelessness and poverty in our own country. We need to take care of our own first.
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Patricia Sydney Solis
Musk is a Puer Aeternus, eternal boy, and these, according to Maria Louise von Franz in her book of the same name have power in their shadow and tend to be the dictators, torturers, concentration camp profiteers, etc. Hitler surrounded himself with young men too in effort to persuade. Musk is an old man trying hard to look cool but looking more like Bart Simpson than anything else. He will self destruct as this immature little tyrants all do. I’m taking bets how.
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Lawrence Pearce
Whatever. Your hatred does not match the love you falsely claim to express for everyone on earth.
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Victoria M. Brown Lowe
We need to really need to pray. American as we know will be no more as long as Trump, Musk and Vance are in control.
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Lawrence Pearce
God has answered our prayers and Don and Elon are exposing the criminals and their crimes against Americans. Or do you endorse thieves stealing TRILLIONS of dollars from the US Treasury during the past 70 plus years? You want to pay down our national debt with your prayers? Go ahead!
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Rev Ned
Musk is one of those tyrannical unelected bureaucrats that Trumpolini was talking about in his untruth filled State of the Union Address. 45/47 is too stupid to realize that. His MAGA minions are either stupider or brainwashed cult members.
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Rev. Donut
Yeah, you just so savy about world affairs. Musk is a stupid head. U the smart one.
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Lawrence Pearce
Wow. You claim you love everyone, but I have a hard time finding any love in your hate filled rant.
Please show me where is your love for Don and Elon and the 150 million Americans who endorse what they are doing to expose crimes and criminals.
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Lawrence Pearce
Here's a list of terrorist groups that are banned by most nations worldwide... Al-Qa’ida in the Arabian Peninsula.
Al-Qa’ida in the Indian Subcontinent. Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan. Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP). Taliban of Afganistan. Al-Shabaab in East Africa. Jamaat Nusrat Al-Islam wal Muslimeen. Many more Muslim terrorist groups listed online... https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/references/terrorist-organizations/ Elon is intelligent enough to know the facts.
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William E Muldrew
Elon musk needs to go away.
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Lawrence Pearce
Well then if Elon is at your door, tell him to go away. He isn't bothering you in the least, unless you object to his exposing criminals who have been stealing from our US Treasury!
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Imotox VH
Honestly, unless you’ve lived with one, you cannot relax and believe that they are so innocent. I was married to a Muslim. I had converted to Islam for five years. His religion was presented to me as an extension of Christianity. But he would never so much as touch my Bible. To him it was a tool of the devil. And at the end of that five years, This person exploded into admitting all of the fears that people are claiming against them, which people who do not know them intimately cry is Islamaphoboa. There is zero respect for anyone who is not of their religion. Their internal struggle is that God commanded them to put everyone else down. If they don’t take someone out then they do not go to heaven. It is not an eye for an eye. He had said that if one moslem is harmed, then the perpetrator’s entire family should be slain in front of them. This includes the elders down to the infants. You don’t have to believe what I tell you. But your bleeding heart cannot buff my experience from existence. When I was engaged in this conversation, I asked questions to clarify and make sure that I understood what was being told to me. It was discussed for hours. And the internal struggle of my spouse made him deny every word later on. He was the only one who taught me anything about his religion. Everyone else refused to teach me even though I had converted. I had to even explain who I was when I purchased books. He knows the dogma is wrong, but he also does not wish not to go to heaven. He was taught a version of God who is not forgiving. There is still mass sacrifice of animals during Ramadan that literally turns the water red throughout surrounding areas. They harbor a lot of internal fears. Fear is not of God. The worst was true in my personal experience. Their long term plan is global infiltration and a one world religion of islam. They are permitted to lie to convert others. The logic is nothing is off the table if it will convert someone. I mean “NOTHING.”
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Walter J. Holbrook
This man is a terrorist and an aristocrat bent on financial wealth and dominance.
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Lawrence Pearce
Whoa. On what basis do you all Elon a terrorist? Don't you know you are opening the door for him to file a multimillion dollar lawsuit against you and the ULC for a lying false accusation? You have no evidence do you?
Show your evidence or delete your lie.
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Rev Ned
Elon Musk is one of Anti-Christ’s MAGA minions.
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Lawrence Pearce
Joe Biden is one of anti-christ's demrat criminals who illegally opened our borders and invited violent criminals, convicted killers and drug cartels to invade our nation. Prove me wrong but you cannot.
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Michael Arthur Lueras
Elon Musk is Satan Incarnate. Amen!?
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Melissa Lynn Ciarelli
I wouldn’t even give Elon that much credit. He’s not smart enough.
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Lawrence Pearce
What you falsely accuse of Elon may be a projection of your on personality. Do you mimic satan by making FALSE ACCUSATIONS against innocent people? Its what the word satan actually means.
Show evidence where Elon is falsely accusing anyone of any crimes. All of the Doge gov investigations are exposing the facts that the demrats have been stealing trillions of dollars from our US Treasury to enrich themselves and their criminal friends across the USA and around the world.
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Michael Arthur Lueras
"There are none so blind as those who refuse to see." (Quran 2:171 and 17:72) "You cannot guide to the truth those who Allah has led astray from the truth." (Quran 4:88 and 28:56) These words were spoken by An Angel On The Horizon to The Prophet Muhammad (May Peace Be With Him) in the 7th Century ABOUT YOU! TAKE HEED lest you end up in Hell with Elon Musk. ACCEPT ISLAM NOW! AMEN!?
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Lion on the Beach
If it's anything having to do with the former agency known as USAID.... Elon is correct.
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Lawrence Pearce
Yes, every day the criminal evidence against USAID piles up, proving we were being robbed, scammed and lied to by the demrat thieves for the past 50 to 70 plus years.
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Billy Coley
Elon musk is an apartheid baby, nazi wannabe. He should have been deported for lying on his citizenship paperwork..
If he wants to point fingers at terrorists, he should look in a mirror
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Lawrence Pearce
Where's the evidence for your false accusation about him? You have no evidence, just ad hominem lies.
Let Don and Elon do their jobs to reduce our national debt and arrest the criminals who stole Trillions of dollars from us over the past 70 plus years! Its what most Americans want them to do. Now go love your neighbor instead of hating your neighbors Don and Elon.
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Lisa Sue Duarte
I have said for years and feel it even more now..... Elon Musk is the antichrist and Donald Trump is nothing but his little dancing chicken trying to keep his feet off the hotplate. In my 50 yrs on this earth this is the first time I am terrified to be an American especially a Mexican/American woman
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Lawrence Pearce
Show us on the barbie doll where Elon and Don harmed you. If you're unable to do so, let them do the jobs most Americans want them to do to reduce our national debt and arrest the criminals, scammers and thieves who stole trillions of dollars from us!
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Brandie Marie Flackman
Judge not, that ye be judged......
That's my comment on a site of faith. I'll keep the rest on social media
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Robert N. March
Now let's be honest here, he said terrorists and people who don't like us. The Islamic relief Ethiopia has been designated a few times by multiple presidents as helping terrorists. As a religious site I've never seen so much judgement of people. It really hurts my heart to see all this judgement. I'm not sure who exactly gave anyone the right to judge anyone else. But it's sad. I'll be judged the day I day , so I won't be judging anyone else. Have a beautiful day and may our Lord Jesus of Nazareth bless you .
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Roy S. Thorpe
He is one of the antichrists foot soldiers!
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Lawrence Pearce
Whew. I thought you were going to falsely accuse him of being one of the Mo cult terrorists who attack and kill innocent people and honor kill their own daughters.
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David Kelly
Tiny little people feel insignificant, even if they have a lot of money, specifically because money is their only measurement of worth. So they belittle others and get a sugar rush, then go back to feeling that much more insignificant.
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Rev Samantha Counihan
by him using twitter to be hateful and a bigot towards others thats abusing his platform called twitter, if its anyone thats a terrorist its musk, trump, harris, and biden all of them has hate towards others and are childish
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Jerald Cox
Love everyone even Musk
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William Christian Theile III
Having read some of the above comments I see “love your fellow man” is not a priority! Our divisiveness in politics is the fault of both parties and media! One side has put out so much propaganda in approximately 40 years that many have become brainwashed to the point that nothing you say will open their eyes! Not all Muslim are terrorists just like all Christian’s are not saints! Musk is not elected, but to stop scams, corruption, and save money is good, but, not when it affects those who need help from government. To do away with jobs, the case by case is better than cut and slash! Contracts need to be reviewed and maybe renegotiated! All the chaos in our country is enough to give you a headache so you need to let go and let God!
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
If love were the priority then they'd cut to the chase and worship Aphrodite. Don't be fooled by pretenders.
You can see for yourself that the one these folks truly idolize is their own "Satan" whom they see in every corner, every closet, and under every bedpost, and especially in the likeness of anyone who doesn't believe the same nonsense they themselves do. But yeah... Muslims are the violent superstitious ones... SMH
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Gregory Allan McLeod
First of all it wasn't a false claim! The audacity of this hack of a reporter covering for this blatant theft of us tax dollars. DOGE uncovered funding organizations like isis and even the Taliban. It might shock some of you but those payments are still taking place today to both of those organizations. Sounds to me like whoever wrote this piece is more concerned with destroying Christianity.
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Ahmed Abduljabar Al-Hujazi
I'd be interested in seeing what credible sources you and/or Musk have for identifying organizations, which have been previously vetted as legitimate, as being terrorist groups.
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Ari Joseph Bertine
How anyone can continue to believe anything that malicious imp-man says is beyond me. He has proven time and again that he's a troll, he's a selfish, bitter and spiteful person, he's a greedy troublemaker that thrives on chaos and upset, and he is currently helping his new best friend whip the bigots of this country into a frenzy by capitalizing on rumor and stress. And let's not forget he has already killed at least one innocent old lady with this miserable, heartless rampage.
But aside from this: Look down at the bottom of this page. See that banner full of colorful icons? The one that says, "We are all children of the same universe" at the bottom? Click on it--that's the link to the Divinity Guide that this website provides to help people of different faiths to understand each other's religions so that they can ponder what each religion brings to the table. That's the whole purpose of the Universal Life Church, the site you are on right now.
If you're here and a part of this church, and you insist on badmouthing Islam on the whole instead of condemning individual sects, like we condemn individual sects of Christianity that cause harm with their tenets (like Westborn Baptist), then you either missed the entire point of this church or you just came in to defile it with hatred. Either way, do better or go away and let those of us who actually believe in interfaith learning do our thing without having to wade through a bunch of hateful sewage.
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Raymond D. Murray Jr.
Islam is not a legitimate religion! It was created by a man (Mohammed) which makes it a cult. Any religion that calls for non-believers to be enslaved or killed can not be representing God. Check the Koran, it is in there.
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Ari Joseph Bertine
In the Koran, the specific verse that people like to quote to support their belief that Islam calls for non-believers to be enslaved or killed is 3:6:
"And when the forbidden months have passed, kill the idolaters wherever you find them and take them prisoners, and beleaguer them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent and observe Prayer and pay the Zakat, then leave their way free. Surely, Allah is Most Forgiving, Merciful."
So this was during a seige and referred specifically to the idolators that were attacking Mohammed and his people, as a means of self defense. As in the Bible, historical battles between the protagonist culture and others are described, with orders from their god to destroy the enemy (although Allah said if they repented and followed their treaty they were to be forgiven). There are many verses in the Bible describing commands to kill nonbelievers; here are just a few of them:
Deuteronomy 13: 6-10 - If anyone, even in your own family suggests worshipping another god, kill them. 13: 12-15 - If you find a city that worships a different god, destroy the city and kill all of its inhabitants. (When the walls of Jericho fell, the Hebrews killed all of the occupants: That would include infants and pregnant women.) Deuteronomy 17: 2-7 - Kill anyone who “has worshiped other gods.” Exodus 22:20 - He that sacrifices unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed.
According to the Universal Light Church that you had to sign up with to post here, Islam was not founded by Mohammed but through a covenant with Ibrahim--the same Abraham discussed in the Christian Bible. Mohammed was merely a prophet who laid out much of the later text and updated tenets, similar to prophets in the Bible.
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Lawrence Pearce
Sounds interesting. Now move to a Mo cult nation like Afghanistan and send us pictures and stories of how wonderful the Taliban treats you, women and children.
We are waiting for your reports!
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
Same is true of the entire Abrahamic tradition bar none.
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Mark Stephen Edwards
Hmm, "bar none." I've jeard that expreesion for years and try not to use it. No offense intended.
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Brien
....and yet Christianity exists. I agree that these cults are illegitimate, all of them. But weak minded zealots of ALL types swear that their mythical being is the only "true" power. To me, no matter what label zealots use, they are basically all the same, fearful bigots.
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Rev. Henry
I am absolutely appalled by the hatred and vitriol that has been spewed here. I do not agree with some things that have been done by the current and the past political parties, but I do not hate everyone in any party simply for being a member. To hate everyone because they are members of a religion you don't agree with is disturbing. To call anyone who is a member of that religion a terrorist is disgusting. There are members of all religions that skew their beliefs to fit the hatred they feel. Our world, and most especially, our country, cannot survive intact unless we stop the hatred. And we had better start soon.
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Brien
And yet, it was the Christian zealots who gave the orange oompaloompa power, and therefore are directly responsible for the damage that happens to this country in the eyes of the world. So, I respectfully disagree with you and yes I do in fact strongly dislike all Christian zealots for trying to force their views on EVERYONE. The puppet Musk is very happy with all of the attention that he is now getting, given to him by our little orange dictator. Everything that happens now is the direct fault of the Christian zealots, who now hold ALL of the power in the federal government. You may dislike what I have said here, but everything that I have laid out is the truth. Peace
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Jason Zitzer
First of all hate gets us nowhere. Secondly,I am data driven. So show me verfied data that US Government is NOT sending money to groups that have harmed this country. It is shocking that insiders on the Shawn Ryan show (and other shows mind you) echo the same sentiment regarding US payments (in cash, in duffle bags) that are delivered to the front door steps of known anti-US organizations and their key personnel. Like most, I am only familiar with what I hear and see and have no idea, nor do most of you, of the truth. Let’s face it, truth doesn’t mean fact. Why are so many so up in “arms” (see what I did there?) about uncovering the corruption, waste, mismanagement and taxation without representation in this country? Just show me the truthful data and I will weigh in. In my experience, the noisiest are often the most ill informed and often, unbeknownst to them selves, embarrassing themselves.
Show me the truth, the light, the way and the uncorrupted data. Once we have those, we can have an ideological discussion. The US is in financial dire straits. The discussion needs to be had objectively.
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Michael Hunt
I can't show you the non-existence of something. You're the one making the accusation, you're the one who needs to back up your claims with evidence. The burden of proof lies with you.
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Lawrence Pearce
You know closing your eyes and plugging your ears while shouting "blah blah blah" is NOT how you find the truth.
The truth about demrat scammers, thieves and grifters is being exposed on Doge gov and available on Zerohedge, Dailymail, NYPost and many other media outlets. Or do you still have eyes and ears closed instead of examining the evidence before you on the internet??
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Brien
The next few months will determine if we get into a third world war or not. Congratulations to all of you religious zealots, I hope your mythical God brings you comfort as our reputation and relationships with the world get trashed. You do understand that the strength of this country is all of the people that built, and continue to build this country. If you're happy with the orange dictator good for you. I said it from the beginning, you all are responsible for the damage that happens now. But it's what you wanted. I have always been glad to sit and break bread with anyone. Not any more. My house is closed. I protect my own only. I no longer help anyone. But this is what you wanted too.
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Lawrence Pearce
Trump is working to END all major wars on earth that were started by the Biden dictatorship. So you're about 3 to 4 years to late condemning dictator Joe and his dictator wife Jill who used the Autopen to forge his signature on ALL of Joe's documents.
The only document proven to have Joe's REAL signature was when he signed his RESIGNATION LETTER! LOL References... Zerohedge com and Dailymail com and NYPost com among many other media outlets.
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Brien
Good for you! Like I said, you and yours are responsible for all the damage now. Have fun with that.
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Aaron Cobbs
Before saying what God doesn't like read 1 Corinthians 6-9-11 people are so quick to say God don't approve of homosexual the bible do say that but there are other things that will send you to hell also
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Lawrence Pearce
YOU create your own heaven or hell on earth with your words, thoughts and actions. It's called Karma in many religions but it's also known as the Law of Planting Seeds and Harvesting Grains. What you plant is what you receive, so if you want Heaven, plant good seeds in your mind, words and actions.
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John J Goodwin
Elon Musk is an Apartheid era South African born as a highly privileged white, and carries that attitude into everything he does. He also believes in management with a sledge hammer where, the less he knows about something the more likely he is to crush it completely, figuring that his own ignorance proves it’s not worth saving.
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Lawrence Pearce
If you think you can do a better job of investigating, exposing and indicting criminal thieves who have been robbing American taxpayers out of trillions of dollars, show us your skills by contacting the President of the USA and tell him what you can do better than what's been done in the past 50 days!
We're waiting for you, so hop to it!
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Joe Smith
Wow these are some pretty hateful and vile messages. I thought this website was all about love and acceptance since we are all the children of god. I guess it’s nothing but a lie and a shame just like the orange dear leader. Oh well! Anyway Hail Satan!
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Lawrence Pearce
The President loves Americans more than any and all foreigners, strangers and criminals. Just like you love your friends and favorite family members more than a drug dealer killing children at your local school during the reign of Biden terrorist gangs.
If we are intelligent, we can decide who we should favor when our lives are threatened by foreign terrorist gangs that Biden invited to invade America the past four years!
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Graylon Morrison
First of all, we first got to have a president that is for the people and by the people, calling for holding up AIDS for poor countries is a disaster and a shame. It shows no compassion or empathy for others. Elon Musk is not the president. We don't have a president at this point. Congress need to step in and clean up all this mess along with the supreme Court!!!!
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Lawrence Pearce
WHY should Americans be FORCED to give BILLIONS OF DOLLARS to any other nation on earth when we are TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS IN DEBT?
All of the foreign aid programs began only after WW2 as part of the rebuilding of devastated nations... and those programs have been turned into DONATIONS TO DICTATORS and not to the people of those nations.
WE SHOULD NEVER HAVE DONATED A PENNY TO ANY OTHER NATION WITHOUT A LOAN CONTRACT AND COLLATERAL! ONLY IDIOTS THROW MONEY AT DICTATORS AND PRETEND THE MONEY WILL TRICKLE DOWN TO THE HUNGRY KIDS IN THAT NATION!
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Pastor Jim
I'm not even going to respond to the baseless BS about Elon Musk. We've needed this for decades. People get fired and find new jobs. Life goes on. Deal with it. Been there, done that.
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Father Flanagan
First of all, there is absolutely no such thing as “Islamaphobia” as everyone’s fear of the ideology of hate and death disguised as a religion called islam is perfectly reasonable and a “phobia” is an unreasonable fear of something. Secondly, CAIR has been proven many times to be affiliated with terrorist organizations and the fact that they’re quran tells them to lie to infidels (anyone not muslim) so nothing they say can be believed. All religions are fake but islam has always been about hating and killing anyone that’s not one of them and they do the same if your one of them as they subjugated everyone, even different sects of islam are not safe and they ALL agree that what is in their murder/slavery manual called the quran is how the world should live - under their religion and rule! So, this is just another case of “them” the terrorist supporters trying to deflect and attack just like the democrats - it’s quite pathetic really, they call themselves the “religion of peace” yet they’re main goal is to Convert or Kill ALL Infidels! They stole the first half of the quran from the bible which stole its stories from earlier scripts then when people weren’t joining they added the pedophilia and violence and it took off and attempted to subjugate the entire world and did for a while. We can Never allow that to happen again!
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catherine laughlin
Hating someone just because they’re Muslim is absurd. Jesus loved everyone. Let’s not forget that.
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Lawrence Pearce
Muslims didn't exist when Jesus was alive... and he did NOT love everyone. Read what he said about the Pharisees in Matthew 23.
And remember that he took time to make a whip of cords so he could whip the money changers out of the temple! Was that love or anger?
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Thomas Jenney
Fortunately, not everyone falls for this divisive rhetoric. We can do much better.
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Kevin James Bogan
F*** Elon Musk & everything he stands for.
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Zoya Geacintov
I have never looked at the comments on this page before and am once again reminded of why I stoped goin to “church”. The hateful way most people pretending to be Christians speak and behave is heartbreaking. Shame on us.
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Thomas F Plesser Jr
Musk has done a wonderful job We. have known for years or all the wasteful spending. Now it has been confirmed and verified. I dont want to see another pennt going outside the US. Not a red cent. And no mony for GAYS as they are against the word of God. This will be done or I forsee a revolution in the near future. Musk does good things for the USA. He is the ONLY way to space. WE must pay for his equipment and knowhow. He has done what government inefficiancy cant do. Wake up people. We are at the crossroads of greatness with christians going back to chuch and private intiative saving up money. The blame goes to the demonrats.
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Robin Mitchell
The very idea that Democrats spend wastefully is in itself a ridiculous claim. Enough money was wasted providing security to Trump for his sleepy Super Bowl, Daytona 500, and golf trips to make your claim outrageous. Take your blinders off. Can you verify the wasted tax dollars supposedly being reclaimed? I have not seen evidence yet.
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Lawrence Pearce
Doge.gov has exposed many THEFTS from our US Treasury by the demrats... USAID funded George Soros, Act Blue and many other demrat political action groups that have worked to release criminals and destroy our democracy.
Doge also found the demrats dropped $2 BILLION DOLLARS into the private bank account of demrat STACEY ABRAMS just before President Trump took over. The demrats also STOLE BILLIONS and gave our money to ILLEGAL INVADERS for food cards, luxury hotel rooms and luxury plane rides anywhere the invaders wanted to go inside the USA. These are all documented crimes against working Americans!
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Zoya Geacintov
What a small sad heart. I’m so sorry you feel the world has been unkind to you.
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Rev_Shaun
ANY money going to ANY Muslim organisation funds terrorism for the simple reason Islam is a terrorist creed.
The money you spend on that expensive (halal) kebab you buy after a night down the pub eventually ends up buying a Kalashnikov. This is why no one and no country anywhere in the civlised world should be giving any money of any kind to any Muslim country.
And as regards that MYTH islamo 'phobia' - oh purleeeeeezzzze!
What does Islam puport to be: A religion.
And the first building block of every religion is FEAR.
FEAR: believe this or you will have a rotten life.
FEAR: Believe this or rot in hell.
FEAR: Believe this or we will kill you.
It is IMPOSSIBLE to have a phobia about any religion, least of all that one
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
Could say the exact same thing about Christians and Jews, given that the majority of Jews are Zionists who support Israeli violence, and the majority of Christians apparently have absolutely no problem with that, and in many cases adamantly support it. The entire Abrahamic tradition is one gigantic malignantly narcissistic ethnic supremacist genocide cult. Yet they simultaneously play the perpetual victim. Even the well meaning people who go along with it are complicit simply by perpetuating the underlying ideology, to say nothing of funding it's institutions.
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Stoodie Baker
Who said anything about Christianity or Judaism? Nice "whataboutism" there pal. Stay on topic and stop deflecting. The truth is Islam is hate filled and dangerous ideology. You can think whatever you want about religions in general, but this one has the overarching tenet to kill or convert anyone who is not Muslim. So spare me the "what about this and that" because you don't see Christians throwing people off buildings or stoning them. These things are not the same. I'm not a christian apologist by any stretch of the word but I will call a spade a spade. There is no "Moderate Muslim" they all hate you, they all hate what you stand for and none of them would shed a single tear if you and everyone you loved were destroyed. Compassion is a two way street and respect is earned.
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
> Who said anything about Christianity or Judaism?
I did.
It's not whataboutism. It's simply broadening the net to include the entire Abrahamic tradition, rather than allowing one sect of Abrahamic superstition to disingenuously point the finger at the other as though your hands are clean and have played no part in fomenting the conflicts.
Judajism and Christinanity have just as much of a historical track record of violent bigotry and genocidal behavior as Islame. When you're not going at each other's throats, or persecuting other religious traditions entirely, you'll find reasons to persecute even your own coreligionists for whatever minuscule sectarian disagreements. It's been 2 millennia of this non-stop. For now at least the USA and the west in general has been temporarily restrained by an underlying libertarian humanist ethos to prevent that mass delusion from acting the part. But the line holding it back is paper thin. With groups like the Heritage Foundation in the USA and fascist Zionist whining incessantly about anti-Semitism of their own creation, that could change any moment, and frankly if you all had your way would instantly.
And you're right about compassion and respect being a two way street. Given the 2,000 year track record which all Abrahamic traditions have of violent genocidal behavior, it should come as no surprise that the Golden Rule is at play. Smarten up and spit out the Kool-Aid! You don't need to "believe in" that farcical pseudohistorical fantasy novel in order to be a good person. Quite the contrary in fact.
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Lawrence Pearce
Name any Christian group that does what the Mo cult has done... strap suicide belts onto their women and children... fly light aircraft into a Jewish desert dance party and massacre every Jew they can find on October 7th... capture and threaten to kill 450 people on board a Pakistan train today.
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Brien
Christianity is based on fear and death. The great mythical being wiping the world out, the great mythical being destroying entire cities, genocide committed in the name of the great mythical being, and on and on. So, to me having a faith in a man made construct and committing murder for that faith equates to terrorism no matter what name you put on that faith. A step further would suggest that selecting one faith out and expressing hate towards it might be considered bigotry...zealot much?
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Lawrence Pearce
Those allegations against their Jewish god are based on Jewish mythologies when the desert tribes believed all mountains on earth could be covered by a worldwide flood.
Mount Everest is 29,031 feet tall. Calculate how much water would it take to cover the earth to a depth of 30,000 feet and then ask yourself, "Where did all that water go?" It's impossible by any stretch of the imagination!
The breakthrough concept of GOD IS LOVE originated with the Christians and it was foreign to all other religions on earth!
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Lori-Ann Neeb
Then I guess Republicans are terrorists because they put the person who invited the riot on the national capital back in the white house.
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Lawrence Pearce
A crowd taking selfies without any bazookas, assault rifles or grenades is NOT a terrorist group!
Not ONE person was charged with terrorism, but they were charged with trespassing, although the DC police opened the magnetically sealed doors from INSIDE the Capitol building and invited them inside. Trespassing is a misdemeanor, but since the crowd was invited inside like tourists by the police, they didn't even qualify for the misdemeanor charge!
Liz Cheney and her kangaroo court DESTROYED ALL EVIDENCE because she and they knew the whole thing was a false flag with fib agents outside inciting the crowd. THE EVIDENCE WILL BE EXPOSED TO DEBUNK THE LIES OF LIZ CHENEY AND THE LYING NEWS MEDIA.
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Richard McFarland
Elon musk is not an elected official, he's doing it for 30 pieces of silver
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Lawrence Pearce
Elon has been appointed by the President to investigate, expose and hand over all evidence of CRIMES, THEFTS, SCAMMERS AND GRIFTERS who have STOLEN TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS from our US TREASURY!
It's the same as a new CEO hiring a team of AUDITORS to examine the financial books of his corporation to find out "who stole the money? and where did the money go?"
If you approve of criminals stealing TRILLIONS of dollars from Americans, then maybe you should move out before Elon shines a spotlight on you.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
I'm all for it. First it will be Muslims, then Buddhist, Hindu, Sikhism, Druze, Protestantism, Christians and lastly the Mormons and their $330 BILLION DOLLARS.
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Jimmy Moon
Satan is called allah by the moe-ham-heads.
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Lawrence Pearce
What is the symbol of the Muslims? It's a CRESCENT MOON! When you investigate its origins, you'll find "Allah" was one of the moon gods among the pagan Arabs.
The Muslims also use the MOON/ LUNAR calendar to measure their months and years, instead of the Christian SOLAR CALENDAR WITH 365 DAYS.
If "allah" is not a moon god, then WHY do the Muslims use a symbol of the MOON as their religion? And WHY do they use the MOON / LUNAR CALENDAR to celebrate their MOON / LUNAR HOLIDAYS? It's as simple as one plus plus equals two!
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Colleen McAllister
Musk is an idiot as is anyone who believes what he says. Musk should be expelled from the USA
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Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox
I prefer “fElon MuskRat” because he is.
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ServantOfJudgement
Musk said humans are destroying the environment and causing global warming. If you believe in man made climbing change, you've said what you are.
Keep illegal immigrants and expell legal ones? I hope you see what you're saying.
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Lawrence Pearce
Tell us when you did you launch dozens of rockets and thousands of satellites into space? Build high performance electric cars that can survive driving off a cliff? And create an internal brain neurolink so paraplegics can communicate with their friends and families via computers?
Seems like a tiny ant is jealous of a genius rocket scientist who denounces members of a suicide belt cult. You don't approve of cult members strapping suicide belts to women and children do you?
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Michael Hunt
Elon is not a genius rocket scientist. He' didn't do any of those things, he paid other people to do it for him. He's nothing more than a nepo baby who bought his success.
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Father Flanagan
And what exactly have you done? It’s easy to knock someone else because it makes you feel good about doing nothing yourself, you think he bought his success? Where exactly did he get his money to buy all of this? I get that he’s not a rocket scientist but he is actually genius level intelligent and put the right people in play to gain the success he has now - he has what only 3% of the population has as a personality type and has Asperger’s on top of everything but you go ahead and belittle his success and continue supporting giving American tax dollars to terrorists because why else would you knock a man who is helping his country and mine that I honorably served and continue to serve?
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Michael Hunt
What I have done has no relevance to this conversation. What I have or have not done in my life does not preclude me from being critical of Musk, nor does it make my statements false.
Musk's parents were incredibly wealthy South Africans. His father ran a lucrative engineering business, had partial stake in an emerald mine, and lived in one of the largest homes in Pretoria.
By what measure have we concluded that he is a genius? He may be autistic, but that does not mean he's some super genius. I mean, look at the Cybertruck that he pushed so hard only for it to be a complete flop. While other electric car manufactures are growing in the market, Tesla sales are plummeting because he's not a smart business man, he's a petulant child. He is not helping our country, he is destroying it.
Lastly, no where did I state that I support giving American tax dollars to terrorists.
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LaKeisha Louise Parnell
Let's be clear 2 gentleman built tesla and neither of their names were Musk. He came in as an investor and got part ownership! So please stop acting like he is some stable genius! Before you speak on his IQ do your research IQ is not telling if a person is smart but rather measures a persons reasoning abilities!
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Lawrence Pearce
IQ measures logic, reasoning and PROBLEM SOLVING ABILITIES.
I know because I scored the highest on the State Intelligence Test and I was invited to join MENSA. (humble bragging.)
I would be the first to say that not only does Elon have a Genius IQ for solving problems but he has gone far beyond ANY member of MENSA that I have ever had the pleasure to meet and speak with! Jealousy is the main trait of the low IQ cult of Idiocracy.
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JPrime
I’ll be blunt: you are WRONG. Unless you’ve seen his test results, you do not know what his IQ is. And honestly, it doesn’t matter. His (more important) EQ is in the negatives. “Where is the love?” you ask. First, idolizing a political figure (or in the case of Musk, an UNELECTED, unqualified hatchet man) the way you have shown in numerous comments is very much like thinking the stripper really does like you. Neither Trump NOR Musk love ANYONE but themselves. Musk is only gutting the government for his own advantage, not for the American people. Anyone with working eyes and a little critical thinking can see that. The programs he’s chopped were investigating HIM for fraud and labour issues. All his contracts with the government net him $8M American tax dollars PER DAY. That right there is at MINIMUM a conflict of interest, if not outright fraud. So interesting that he hasn’t found anything to cut from there, hmm? And he thinks the Social Security payments of $65/day to the elderly is ENTITLEMENT?! It would be laughable if it wasn’t so sad.
He didn’t create Tesla; he BOUGHT it. He didn’t invent Space X; he BOUGHT it. He didn’t create Starlink; he BOUGHT it! He didn’t invent X (formerly Twitter): he BOUGHT it. However, he DID invent the billions of “waste, fraud and abuse” dollars. And YOU BOUGHT IT!
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Shirley F. Clemons
I will try to be fair, what I want others to know is putting your trust in God is the only way. Unless God intervenes life as we know, the future you would like to have is in question. All the people who have been blessed to be a part of ruling this country had issues, no ones prefect right but this group is scary if I may say so
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Lawrence Pearce
Why is a team of high tech investigators scary to you? Don't you want to know where the Trillions of dollars stolen from the US Treasury have gone? Like the $2 Billion dollars Joe Biden secretly deposited in Stacey Abrams bank account overnight when she did absolutely nothing to earn it this past year? Doge.gov
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Shirley F. Clemons
I will try to be fair, what I want others to know is putting your trust in God is the only way. Unless God intervenes life as we know, the future you would like to have is in question. All the people who have been blessed to be a part of ruling this country had issues, no ones prefect right but this group is scary if I may say so
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Lawrence Pearce
True in all ages and I can testify that God intervenes supernaturally when you and we call upon Him, as it is written,
"EVERYONE WHO CALLS ON THE NAME OF THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED (RESCUED, HEALED, PROSPERED)" - Joel 2.32
When I was a teenager drowning in a lake with nobody nearby to help me, I called out, "GOD HELP ME!" and I felt the immediate presence of two Angels lifting my body up in the water so that I could breathe. Then they gave me strength to swim back to shore, where I collapsed and rested. I KNOW GOD CAN RESCUE YOU WHEN YOU CALL UPON HIM FOR HELP!
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Michael Arthur Lueras
Remember that Satan and therefore Elon Musk who is an Incarnation of Satan was REPRIEVED BY ALLAH to do every evil thing possible and still more if he can: "I reprieve you until an Appointed Day." (Quran 7:15)
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Lawrence Pearce
Questions... Do you approve of any religious cult that straps suicide belts onto women and children?
Do you know any current members of that death cult when they could be much happier by receiving eternal life today.
"Truly, truly, I say to you that the one hearing My word and believing the One having sent Me, he has eternal life and does not come into judgment, but has passed from death into life." - Jesus (John 5.24)
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Lawrence Pearce
If satan is someone who murders people, then it's not Elon. The devil is more likely a member or leader of a religious cult that tells his cult followers to murder anyone who hasn't joined his hell bound cult. He also tells them to strap suicide belts onto their women and children so satan to kill even more innocent people. He also advises them to commit "honor killings" of their young daughters.
Now I wonder what religious cult is known for committing those murderous crimes on earth every year? Can you tell me?
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Dr Rohn
I'll start by saying Musk, much like so many others, would be better received should he think before speaking. Words are powerful. Words create actions, often not the intended action behind the words, but still happens based on the perception of the hearer. With that said: There may be organizations which receive funding that are associated with terrorist groups. It would be right to not send funds to these, especially funds needed for organizations who don't have such associations and truly use the monies to better those they serve. However, it's imperative that a thorough investigation is conducted, identifying them, prior to making a blatant and very public statement which would group every organization into the list of the undesirable. So, Identify, Investigate, Verify, then take appropriate measures to curtail and abolish those organizations that support terrorism. This is the missed useful application of the powerful position E. Musk now finds himself
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Father Flanagan
I feel sorry for anyone so weak that mere words hurt them, and what he said was 100% accurate and that’s the only reason anyone is complaining - CAIR supports terrorists and that’s been proven and swept under the rug by democrats - keep up the great work Mr. Musk!
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Lawrence Pearce
Yes and Amen! Its about time someone took the lid off the US Treasury box and looked inside to find all of the snakes, scorpions and reptiles crawling about and stealing trillions of dollars from working Americans!
Elon is perfect for the job because he has the high tech crews who can search databases to track where they trillions went and he has the security teams to protect his crews, himself and his family from the criminal snakes, scorpions and reptiles who are hissing at him. Looking at some of the hissing snakes in this forum who hate the light.
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Patricia Ann Gross
All DOGE is doing is gutting agencies that are interfering with his personal interests. Out of tens of thousands of federal workers that have been furloughed, some life-long civil servants, you can't tell me that the agencies will run better without them, or that they were all "grifters."
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Patricia Ann Gross
Dr. Rohn, Thank you for posting something without disparaging large groups of people. Yes, Musk should try to think before engaging the mouth or keyboard. He should also not try to run an operation by social media. I have never had any boss put out edicts to their people through a public social media account, and I find it appalling at best, but mostly unethical for him to do so. One thing we are all learning in this time in history where everyone is addicted to their social media account, is that when policy decisions are made in public, there is no ability to adjust, so you just keep repeating a process that doesn't work hoping for a different result. I know I read somewhere that repeating the same thing over and over and expecting a different result is the definition of insanity. Some decisions need to be made behind closed doors, where the proper qualified people can collaborate and come to a concensus about how to proceed before making things public.
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Lawrence Pearce
Things are being exposed so fast, that the scammers and frauds who have been stealing trillions of dollars from working Americans are upset that their grifts are being exposed.
Doge.gov shows a daily and weekly update on where the high tech security teams are finding the frauds and scams that have been ripping us off for years. Doge.gov
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Patricia Ann Gross
And the numbers jump up and down so much each day it is worse than watching a tennis match or following the tarrif talks. Billions of dollars DOGE was taking credit for were already from programs already shut down or discontinued (some during Biden's administration).
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ServantOfJudgement
It's good that these religious outfits won't be getting my money anymore.
If you're on the left and don't like this you should check your operating system for glitches. As a litmus test, your operating system used to say state+religion=bad. If you think Musk ending funds to religion=bad, go see a tech as quickly as you can.
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Lawrence Pearce
excellent point! Elon is "defunding terrorist cults." The ones who scream the loudest are probably those who are guilty of funding terrorists with our tax dollars and they must be defunded today.
We should also not be funding any multibillion dollar Christian churches or any other religion that invokes tax free status while providing luxury mansions for their religious leaders. Yes, we're looking at you Pope.
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Douglas Robert Spindler
What? No mention of the Mormons? They have $330 BILLION dollars invested in shopping malls, entertainment, stocks bonds and real estate. They own 2% of all of the public land in the state of Florida.
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Lawrence Pearce
If I had to make a list of religious grifters, there wouldn't be enough room in this forum!
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Lawrence Pearce
One thing I can say about the Mormons after I investigated them...
Their children are 800 percent less likely to end up in prisons because they are taught to obey the laws and socialize with business people who help them set positive goals for their lives. (The cult that is 800 percent MORE likely to end up in prison are the Muslims according to their demographics inside and outside of prison walls.)
The LDS provide the lowest cost business, technical and financial educations at their universities in Salt Lake City and Provo Utah. You don't have to join them before you go to their universities.
Their small LDS communities are usually 300 to 700 percent SAFER to people to live compared to any other midsized to large city in the USA. There are no illegal drugs being sold in the LDS towns because nobody is buying meth, cocaine, heroin or fentanyl there. The strongest drugs they take are Pepsi with caffeine and that's only a few.
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Nicholas Peter Christopher
This is exactly what America voted for! If you stand with the Muslim Brotherhood GO stand with them, if you stand for the Ukraine GO stand with them! Here in this land is America First! Attention all naysayers, your evil ideaology and political beliefs have been destroyed. You were rebuked, maybe you think Trump didn’t win that big, but that fact is the democrats lost so very terribly bad, overwhelmingly in fact.
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Najah P Tamargo
Najah Tamargo-USA
I just want him to shut up and go away!!
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Lawrence Pearce
Do you still support the dictator Z in his quest to start World War 3 in Ukraine? Then armor up and join him.
Since when is cutting the fraud, the waste and the scammers out of our government a bad thing to do? Please forward your bank routing numbers to the treasury if you think fraud, waste and scammers know better than yourself on how to spend your money. sheesh.
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Michael Hunt
Since when did Zelenskyy become a dictator and since when has he quested to start WWIII? Do you seriously believe that because he stood up to Trump's lies and disrespect, he's trying to start a World War? Do you think that Russia has the right to take another country's land by force?
No one has said that cutting fraud and waste out of the government is a bad thing, but what Musk is doing is not eliminating fraud and waste. He's simply cutting the government work force which will save us very little and lead to a less effective government.
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Amy R Deshpande
Ty, I do not stand for all this hate speech. You are supposed to love thy neighbor and turn the other cheek and there is none of that going on here:) lol
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Lawrence Pearce
Zelensky cancelled all elections and he has arrested all of his political opposition and any clergy who have spoken out against the war.
Cancelling votes and imprisoning opposition are obvious signs of THE DICTATOR ZELENSKY!
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Lawrence Pearce
Why? Show us on the barbie doll where he hurt you.
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James Riggle-Johnson
And all white South Africans are colonizers. This one in particular is a South African Princess who has to buy is closet friends.
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Lawrence Pearce
And all black South Africans are serial killers who would rather murder hard working farmers and steal their properties than to build their own farms and ranches. Remember that when the Dutch settled the cape of Africa for trading with ships, there were no organized black cities or towns there. There was nothing but a few stone age savages who had failed to invent the wheel, much like 99 percent of America when the Pilgrims landed.
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James Riggle-Johnson
Please tell me you are joking!
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Father Flanagan
It’s amazing how much brainwashing really works on the masses! A few savages with stones? That is one of the most insane things I have heard recently! You tell all those parents in the small villages where these “savages” came to steal them children and make them soldiers with fully automatic GUNS not stones and riding in trucks and jeeps and YES, the guy running the show was ok with the complete destruction of all white farmers and stole their land! Yeah, the koolaid runs deep with this one!
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James Riggle-Johnson
Yes, I too am amazed how you’ve been brainwashed into believing everything a liar tells you.
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Lawrence Pearce
Liar or FACT? Look up "Robert Mugabe Rhodesia/ Zimbabwe" for the evidence of black racists murdering farmers to steal their farmlands in Rhodesia and the resulting mass starvation and murders that blacks committed against each other in that once prosperous nation.
Get a real education, not a fake diploma from a public school.
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Lawrence Pearce
Not joking. It's worldwide news now and Trump has invited South African farmers to move to the USA to save their lives, before the radical racists in charge of SA slaughter them. It would be like BLM terrorists threatening to kill and steal the farms of Iowa farmers, except it's happening in South Africa.
It actually happened before in Rhodesia, now Zimbabwe, where after the black criminals killed the farmers, the blacks starved because they didn't know how to plant, fertilize or harvest the crops. Look up the criminal behind it, "Robert Mugabe" a racist catholic behind the genocide in Zimbabwe.
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Nicholas J Page
Wheres the proof Musk has an enormous mouth dont call anybody terroists
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Lawrence Pearce
The proof can be found in every day news headlines as members of the muslim cult drive their cars into crowds and kill people in Europe, strap suicide belts onto their women and children, and call for the death of everyone who is not a member of their religious cult.
Issuing "fatwas" (murder decrees) against each other and against non-members of their cult is another sign, along with the horrific practices of "honor killings." Look up "fatwas" and "honor killings" and "suicide belts."
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Lawrence Pearce
Here's the proof... it's a list of terrorist groups. How many of them have Muslim names? Almost all of them! https://www.cia.gov/the-world-factbook/references/terrorist-organizations/
Like it or not, the rocket scientist and genius Elon knows much more than you may imagine.
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James Mounts
"Muslim Terrorist" is an oxymoron.
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Lawrence Pearce
You mean "muslim terrorist" are repetitive and redundant words that mean the same thing? Like the 19 Muslim hijackers on September 11, 2001.
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James Mounts
If I had meant that, I would have said that. Go to ahdictionary.com and look up "irony"
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El Gringo
An oxymoron is two terms of opposite meaning. Lawrence needs to check his definitions.
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David Buck
The federal government is allowed to 'not fund' any group or organisation. Who makes that determination is irrelevant. It is really good to see somebody going through the books and not at all surprising that there are a lot of "WTF" sentiments coming out of it. I hope Musk (or somebody) carries on defunding these organisations because there is no reason whatsoever that taxpayers should have been funding them in the first place. Every country should have a DOGE.
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Lawrence Pearce
"Muslim" is to "terrorists" what "Mamba snakes" are to "baby mamba snakes." The Quran is the training manual that births and programs the little ones. Worldwide examples everywhere as designated by nearly all nations who have suffered from their crimes.
The most recent example is what's happening in Pakistan where a Muslim group has threatened to murder all 450 people on board a train they captured in a tunnel. Most people call that "terrorism."
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Gary
CAIR is a Muslim Brotherhood front group and their usual tactics are to attack anyone in a position of power who says negative things about Muslim terrorism.
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Elizabeth Jane Erbe Wilcox
Please provide your truthful/accurate news sources for this assertion so we may all be as “informed” as you. Given that I have constrained you to truthful/accurate news sources this prevents you from citing NewsMax, Epoch Times, Fox, and others of their ilk.
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Nicholas Peter Christopher
Gary’s post is absolutely accurate May I Kindly suggest you to do a simple google search or YouTube search and you can clearly see that CAIR is affiliated with The Muslim Brotherhood! American Taxpayers do not want to support terrorism
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Travis A. Lee
May I Kindly ask YOU Good Sir, to, instead of telling Elizabeth to do the Research, YOU or Gary or Lawrence provide the links. The burden of proof is on you, otherwise, it is just lies and smokescreens because you all REFUSE to believe you erred badly. So provide the links. We are tired of doing the work of those who do not. Then provide research that proves their "truth" to be LIES and told that the links that was researched are lies. SO PROVIDE the LINKS.
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Lawrence Pearce
CAIR Not Only Inspires Terrorists. It's Historically Linked to Them https://www.newsweek.com/cair-not-only-inspires-terrorists-its-historically-linked-them-opinion-1671796
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Lawrence Pearce
"They hide their daggers behind their backs Waiting for the moment to attack Women and children is who they're after Bloody cowards who stab with laughter Their time is coming when they will pay For killing innocent people every day Their god is the devil in hell Who tells them lies so they will kill."
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
Which is no different from the ADL or the new mandate from the Heritage Foundation for president Trump to combat anti-Christian sentiments. Abrahamic superstitions bar none have a 2,000 year track record of being intractably narcissistic, and pretending to be victims when they are themselves the aggressors. Islame makes for a good and well deserved whipping boy here in the west, but frankly they're just peas in a pod when it comes to the Abrahamic tradition.
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Lawrence Pearce
If you really believe that, then obviously you would claim that living in a Muslim ruled nation would be no worse than living in a Catholic or Protestant nation. So when are you moving to Afghanistan, to enjoy the life of the Taliban? LOL
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
Try being Pagan in a predominantly Christian area and you'll find that it's not the Christian teachings which protect you, but the laws which [barely] prevents Christians from acting on them. Even when there are clear acts of religiously motivated hate towards Pagans, rarely is meaningful justice ever brought to bear on the perpetrators.
The only difference between Muslim theocracy and the nations of the west, is that since the Enlightenment, people in the west are largely committed to secularism and humanistic laws which supersede the theocratic mandates of the BuyBull. We are free in spite of Christinanity, not because of it.
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Lawrence Pearce
I know many pagans who would disagree with you. It's all in how you present yourself. If you dress like a dark and evil warlock and swing knives and swords at people, then yes, people are going to view you as a dangerous nutcase.
If you dress in colorful clothes (think Renaissance Fairs) and then smile and greet everyone in a friendly manner, they will probably like you. It's all about you.
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Lawrence Pearce
If we could magically wave a wand and eliminate all designated terrorist groups from earth, there is one major religion that would disappear from the earth and the results would make the world a more peaceful place, which is what most people desire for themselves, their families and friends!
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Stephanie A Willey
Elon Musk is the terrorist here. He has no business being where he is doing what he's doing.
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
A majority of the American people elected Trump knowing full well in advance that Elon would be doing all this. That says to me that it's fully in keeping with the will of the electorate. Even an ocean of liberal tears can't magically turn that into an act of terrorism. They do however drive home the point of how unhinged from reality the political left has become.
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Robert James Ruhnke
lol the vast majority of Americans didn’t vote. Can it blunder.
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Clay Serenbetz
Try received less than 50% of the votes cast in the 2024 Presidential election. Not a mandate.
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Lawrence Pearce
98% of the voter rolls have never been cleaned up, so there are probably millions of deceased voters still listed on the rolls.
Thanks for calling that fact to our attention. Elon and his team will be investigating and removing the dead wood from the state and federal voter rolls!
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James Riggle-Johnson
Lawrence, do you really believe that? Do you really think 98% of the voter roles are dead people? Do you think Musk has your best interest at heart? He is in this for one thing and one thing only: to increase his income. Any money he might save will go to federal tax cuts for the top 1%. They do not care for middle—or lower-income bracket individuals.
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Steven Bagenstose
That was an awesome Kamala Harris move. I believe I read "there are probably millions of deceased voters still listed on the rolls" and "98% of the voter rolls have never been cleaned up"
Considering how many millions are receiving Social Security who are over 150 years old the question should be how many of those individuals are registered Democrats on the voter rolls ?
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Cyril R. VanKeirsbelk
Please stop talking about things you don't understand. A slight effort to research this will show you that a default date is used by the COBOL programing language when the birth date is unavailable. This date is May 20th, 1875. The Social Security Administration automatically stops any payments at age 115 by default. So to answer your question. Zero.
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James Riggle-Johnson
Thank you, Cyril. They believe everything the Orange Jesus tells them.
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Religion as a Weapon is Wrong
Eye roll.
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Michael Hunt
What evidence do you have to support that statistic? As far as I can find, voter rolls are constantly, by law, being updated and purged of the deceased. There's no evidence of massive voting fraud because of dead people voting. https://siepr.stanford.edu/news/dead-people-dont-vote-study-points-extremely-rare-fraud
Also, I'm pretty sure that voter rolls are maintained solely by the states, not the federal government, so there isn't a federal voter roll for Elon to get his hands on.
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Dale Louis Konyha
They still vote in Michigan especially in Wayne County.
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Melissa Lynn Ciarelli
Proof?
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Colin Jeffrey
And right there is the addle-pated, deluded wacko nonsense that MAGA types peddle at the behest of their Cheeto-in-chief. But believing that bilge? THAT takes one hell of an unhinged mind.
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/11/trump-won-the-popular-vote-contrary-to-claims-online/
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Clay Serenbetz
https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2024/11/22/trump-win-popular-vote-below-50-percent-00190793
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
Interesting that that article doesn't distinguish between the Electoral College and the Popular vote. For the Electoral College Trump won 312 of the 538 votes cast (~58%). For the Popular vote he won 49.8% (about 50%) which is the 2nd highest on record for any president in US history, excepting Biden in 2020 who arguably had the help of massive widespread electoral fraud. Trump also has the highest cumulative popular vote record of any president of the USA ever. The effort to downplay his success is just spin and a case of Democrats being sore losers. The fact is that he has a mandate from the electorate, just as I said. End of story.
https://www.cfr.org/article/2024-election-numbers
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Michael Hunt
There was zero evidence of widespread election fraud in 2020. Continuing to lie about this is the biggest example of being a sore loser you can come up with. https://campaignlegal.org/results-lawsuits-regarding-2020-elections https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.2103619118
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
Here're more recent stats from last night which directly apply based on a CBS/YouGov poll of the American electorate following Trump's Address to Congress on March 4 2025.
"8. In his speech, did you like or dislike Donald Trump’s plans for...
Waste in government spending 77% (Liked) 23% (Disliked)"
Granted the respondents self-identified as 51% Republican, 20% Democrat who undoubtedly represent Yay and Nay respectively according to their partisan dogmas. Yet even so, that indicates a significant wide margin of approval for the activities of DOGE across the board.
https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/cbsnews_post-speech_20250304.pdf
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
"The overall turnout of eligible voters in the 2024 general election was 63.7%. This was lower than the 2020 record of 66.6% but higher than every other election year since at least 2004."
https://ballotpedia.org/Election_results,_2024:_Analysis_of_voter_turnout_in_the_2024_general_election
Presumably the drop in voter turnout relative to 2020 was due to fewer Democrats getting away with ballot stuffing and other forms of voter fraud.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/democrats-charged-election-fraud-despite-partys-pushback-election
Anyway, the Liberal tears are delicious. I don't even like Trump personally, but you all are so utterly delusional and hypocritical about your political cult worship that I can't help feeling some schadenfreude.
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Michael Hunt
Your accusations of others of being delusional and hypocritical is merely projection on your part. There was zero evidence of wide spread voter fraud. Your source, Just The News, is a known questionable source with a far-right agenda. https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/just-the-news/
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Patricia Ann Gross
My dear Thunder,
It's not the political left that has become unhinged. Even those who voted for Trump had no idea that he was going to create this type of chaos, because, even in his first term he talked big but never followed through. This time he came in with all his guns loaded and started shooting. I feel for those I have seen in multiples of posts of federal workers that have been laid off after voting for Trump, and now feel entitled because they did. I am not one of them because I'm not a federal worker nor did I vote for him.
What is unhinged is rounding up people without warrants just because they "might be" illegal. There are countless claims of those who were here legally having to prove it after being arrested during ICE raids.
What is also unhinged is someone equating the name of a grant recipient as a terrorist organiation just because there is "Islam," "Muslim," "Palestine," "Arab," or "Near East" in their name. He has not vetted the work of any of these agencies to determine what type of work they do, even if they do it in the name of a god that goes by a different name. A lot of relief went to the people living in Gaza that was not contingent on them being from one side or the other. This was in the form of food, clothing and shelter.
Feeding hungry people is a good way to gain an ally. It goes a lot futher than bombing those same people's enemies, because they get caught in the collateral damage and are still hungry.
Does it also say how much went out to Christian or other organizations, like Church World Service, Heifer Project, or UNICEF? These programs also help in areas that could be considered hostile to the US interests, but their main focus is on feeding the hungry.
The other thing that Musk has not vetted (and I know this simply because there has not been enough time or people assigned to do so), whether any of these organizations violate the terms of the grants they were issued. Did the grant require that the end-game recipients had to pledge allegience to any particular ideology or was it stipulated that certain ideologies were automaticaly denied access to the funds? Trust me, if you've ever read a federal grant application, all of that is in there, and a "proper" audit (which has not been done) takes weeks if not months of forensic accounting. To jump in there with "I can't believe we are spending this much money on terrorists," when you have no clue what the organization does or even stands for, is Islamaphobic at best, and completely racist at worst.
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El Gringo
Thank you, Patricia. Instead of wild accusations you are trying to clarify these arguments. This article was well written educational.
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
I posted this above, but you must have missed it.
Here're more recent stats from last night which directly apply based on a CBS/YouGov poll of the American electorate following Trump's Address to Congress on March 4 2025.
"8. In his speech, did you like or dislike Donald Trump’s plans for...
Waste in government spending 77% (Liked) 23% (Disliked)"
Granted the respondents self-identified as 51% Republican, 20% Democrat who undoubtedly represent Yay and Nay respectively according to their partisan dogmas. Yet even so, that indicates a significant wide margin of approval for the activities of DOGE across the board.
https://d3nkl3psvxxpe9.cloudfront.net/documents/cbsnews_post-speech_20250304.pdf
As to rounding up illegal immigrants, those people are by definition criminals. If you don't think there should be borders around your country to protect from unlawful entry, then why do you have locks on your house, your vehicle, etc? How many migrants have you invited into your home to live with you and your family? Instead of being upset with elected officials who are doing the job for which they were hired, why not put your money where your mouth is and act in accordance with your own stated principals of open borders and charitable accommodation of those in need? If you're going to put your own family first, they why is it such a travesty for your elected officials to put your own nation's interests ahead of others?
The other thing worth noting is that the USA is hundreds of trillions of dollars in debt (when including unfunded liabilities such as medicare, social security, etc). If you don't start taking that situation seriously, then it won't be brown people in a distant land who are in need of aid. Moreover, arguably most of those aid packages are either money laundering schemes for the wealthy, or economic sabotage designed to undercut the domestic supply of produce in the markets concerned in order to make way for US suppliers such as Monsanto, Cargill, etc, to come in and supply their own proprietary products under exclusive government subsidized contracts. It looks really nice on paper to say you're giving foreign aid to the needy, but you're fooling yourself if you think those involved aren't getting anything out of the bargain. Moreover, they're doing it on your dime, not their own.
Please don't be so naive!
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Patricia Ann Gross
People are being rounded up without warrants or probable cause, nor have they all had return orders in process and absconded. By the way, a person who overstays a visit visa is a civil, not a criminal offense, so they are not, by definition criminals. There was a man on his way to a hearing with his attorney in Ohio to extend his visa because he was here visiting a sick relative, and was dragged out of his attorney's car and arrested. He was trying to do the right thing, but his visa had just expired and he was trying to correct it. He was not one of the ominous criminals that ICE was supposed to target first.
Regarding what I have done, I have spent eight years before I retired working at an agency (not supported by the federal government, but through grass roots fundraising) that helped connect the homeless and working poor with resources for housing, food, and medical assistance. Do I lock my doors? Yes. Do I invite the homeless clients I helped to stay with me? No (migrants or citizens), I don't have room and have chronically ill husband. We live in a small, one-bedroom apartment and there is barely enough room for us. I do, however, support the local food banks, clothes closets, and the agency I used to work for. I have also in the past when I had more funds available for charitable giving supported international organizations like the Heifer Project and CWS.
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Ty Ford
You are incorrect. Your lying will be "paid for", by God.
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Reverend Paula Copp
You are so funny, Ty! Approximately 90 million Americans did not vote. Both candidates got around 73 - 75 million votes each. More people didn’t vote than voted for either candidate.
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ServantOfJudgement
This is what gives rise the notion that we are mere chattel Paula. I don't gamble, that said I bet George Soros never votes in any country he's a citizen of. Surely you don't think Prince Harry, a member of the feudal system and dirty dog rich votes do you?
No my dear, I don't think those that know engage in the folly of voting too awful much.
Enter the oddity called Trump. An unlikely bafoon muscles his way into the machine. Monkey wrench with a mind chunks up the gears of corruption.
Heck of a ha-ha to the elite masters most cant stomach to know we have.
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
It's true and worth pointing out that there's no meaningful way to explicitly opt-out of being governed by one of the current lineup of candidates. So in that sense "consent of the governed" is an oxymoron.
However as a general rule, consent is implicit. Unless you explicitly say "No." then it's implied that you consent to whatever is taking place (aka: going along with the crowd).
On a tangent, this is why the USA's 1st and 2nd constitutional amendments are so brilliant. The 1st so you have the right to express disagreement (ie. say "No."), and the 2nd when they won't take that "No." for an answer.
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ServantOfJudgement
Does it really matter who got what percentage? Trump was elected proper, he's the president now. Those that elected him are observing his campaign promises come to fruition.
Don't worry liberals, you'll get another chance to put someone in who'll give you high taxes to struggle with, tiny dollars to stretch, pointless wars to lose your sons to and plenty of free phones, flat screen TV's and filet mignons to pay for because "it's the right thing to do".
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Patricia Ann Gross
SOJ, Being liberal doesn't mean you get the government to pay your phone bill, buy you a flat screen TV, and filet mignons. If so, every American would be jumping on the liberal bandwagon. Where do you get this stuff?
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Clay Serenbetz
I don't think my taxes are high. Nor do I think that billionaires pay anyway near their appropriate share. Billionaires and multi-millionaires certainly can pay more to help balance the budget. In my view, taxes are a citizen's patriotic duty. Elon Musk has more money than God and he is cutting less than 1% of the budget that saves millions lives in Africa. He is not acting as a Christian should, nor is he compassionate for suffering of those less fortunate than he is.
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EnjoyYourMilquetoast
Oh no! If I disagree with you your bogeyman will get me! 😲 Whatsoever will I do??
🤣 Please, for the sake of everyone else who has to deal with you, grow up!
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Gary
With all respect, the American people are entitled to know where their tax money is going and what their government is doing with it.
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Reverend Paula Copp
With all respect, musk is an immigrant who has no business having so much power in the government. It would be one thing if transparency were the goal, but he’s as big a liar as the FFOTUS! Please don’t drink the KoolAid.
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ServantOfJudgement
Odd Paula that you're fine with illegal immigrants having the power to take human life and not fine with legal immigrants having the power to protect tax payers wallets and citizens rights.
Check your circuit board for crossed wires, I'll bet you'll find the problem.
Musk is separating church from state, the liberals dream come true.
Happy is the correct emotion.....
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Reverend Paula Copp
You are so out of touch it’s laughable, SoJ. No illegal immigrants have the power to take lives! Once your brain has wires to cross, maybe I’ll listen to your drivel. Until then, keep your inane comments to yourself.
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Lawrence Pearce
Illegal immigrants who used their power to take the lives of innocent American girls nursing student Laken Riley, 12 year old Jocelyn Nungaray and many others who desperately tried to fight off the criminals before they were murdered.
Look up their stories Paula so you can keep up with reality hidden by the lying media outlets.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Lawrence, They might have the power, but they don't have the right to do so. These isolated cases (out of how many millions of alleged illegals?) have had the perpetrators arrested and will be deported if they ever get out of jail. If it is known that an illegal immigrant did these deeds, the person who did it must have been identified and convicted. My heart goes out to the families of the victims, but demonizing all immigrants for the sins of the few gets us nowhere, and bringing up their name every time someone wants to justify purging all immigrants does not allow the families to get on with their lives.
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El Gringo
Patricia, I am glad you are responding to these claims of several anti-immigrant posts. It is hard to separate the blatant dishonesty and information being posted by the anti-immigration people and the truth to be able to make a sensible opinion. All immigrants are animal sex fiends robbers and law breakers? There was a killing by migrants. Are all migrants killers? Are people naive enough to believe these wild claims? Unfortunately they are.
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ServantOfJudgement
Paula, if I drink a glass of milk it's because I have the power to do so. You understand that logic I trust.
When an illegal alien kills a citizen, they obviously have the power to do it, otherwise it wouldn't happen. It does though doesn't it? Illegal aliens definitely kill citizens.
I'm deeply entrenched in reality Paula. I'm aware of many things you're apparently blind or indifferent to.
Did you know that you have the power to take those fancy filtered blinders off? We've heard the phrase ignorance is bliss and I suppose you're demonstrating the truth behind that bromide.
Here's a new one: Delivery from ignorance is bliss.
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Patricia Ann Gross
SOJ, I agree that illegal aliens kill citizens. that doesn't mean all illegal aliens kill citizens. Citizens kill citizens too, but that doesn't mean all citizens kill citizens either. I know, because I am a citizen and have never killed anyone, citizen or alien. I'm having a hard time understanding your point. I'm not trying to speak for Paula, but I think she was trying to say they don't have the "right" to kill anyone.
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Lawrence Pearce
Did you know that the phrase "drinking the koolaid" originated in the Jim Jonestown cult that was financed and approved by the democrat party and Jimmy Carter's wife? Look it up.
The dems also started the Civil War, invited the Ku Klux Klan to their national meetings after the war and opened the borders of America for every spy, criminal and fentanyl drug dealer to invade us, all while providing those criminals with free phones, free plane tickets, free food cards and free luxury hotel rooms. Who are our enemies? The "koolaid cult" dems.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Lawrence, How did the dems start the Civil War? Abraham Lincoln was a Whig and then a Republican. If your talking about the Confederacy starting it, take a look at how red all the confederate states are.
Please tell me how democrats are providing criminals and spies with free luxury hotel rooms, phones, and plane tickets.
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Lawrence Pearce
The southern democrats seceded from the Union and then started the civil war by firing on Fort Sumter. https://www.battlefields.org/learn/civil-war/battles/fort-sumter
Democrats’ radicalism had demoralizing material consequences. Take New York City. The surging number of migrants into the city and the budgetary and social strain that their presence has placed on residents contributed to a rightward shift in Trump’s hometown. New York turned some 20 percent of its hotels into migrant shelters. The resulting reduction in hotel rooms, combined with the city’s restrictions on short-term home rentals, made it significantly less affordable for out-of-towners to visit. Last September, for example, the cost of the average New York City hotel room exceeded $400 a night; it hit $600 at a Manhattan Holiday Inn.
https://www.city-journal.org/article/immigration-democrats-us-election
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Lawrence Pearce
The southern democrats fought for states rights and to keep slaves. It's been more than 160 years since then. We now have states rights and farm machinery to replace slaves.
As for feeding, housing and providing medical care for criminals, the first thing you need to know that ANYONE who fails to enter America through a border crossing or airport is a FELON who has illegally invaded the USA without authorization. If you don't live in a border state, ask almost any local police officer, sheriff deputy or state trooper about the criminals arrested who illegally invaded America.
Did you just wake up from a four year siesta? LOL
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Michael Hunt
It's a misdemeanor to enter the US illegally or reside here illegally. It is only a criminal felony if you re-enter after being deported. Get your facts straight.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Yes, and entering legally with a tourist or short-term work visa and it expires is a civil infraction, not a criminal one. These are the ones that ICE is collecting on raids and by hanging out near the immigration centers when immigrants show up for hearings regarding their status.
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Patricia Ann Gross
Yes, and the politics of both parties have shifted since the mid-1800s. The deep south was mostly democrats until the late 1900s. I was living in Texas in the 1970s when Texas elected their first Republican governor in over100 years. They haven't elected a Democrat as a governor since. Same shift happened through the entire former confederate states along with other parts of the nation at about the same time. This came with a huge ideological shift in both parties. A Republican in 1900 and in 2000 looked nothing alike, so you can't possibly compare a Civil War era Republican or Democrat with either party today.
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Lawrence Pearce
The president appointed him and his elite team of technology geeks to investigate and expose all of the crimes, corruption, bribery, scams and wasteful spending of our tax dollars.
Are you the same Stacey Abrams who raised only $100 for her charity last year, but this year Joe Biden's dems stole $2 BILLION dollars from us and deposited that two billion dollars into her bank account? That's just one of the many SCAMS exposed by Elon Musk and his high tech scanners. Do you approve of her two billion dollar scam of your tax money?
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Michael Hunt
$2 Billion did not go into Stacey Abrams' bank account. The funds were appropriated by congress to Power Forward Communities, a coalition of clean energy groups, including one in which Abrams previously was a senior counsel. https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2025/feb/26/facebook-posts/without-evidence-social-media-posts-claim-fraud-in/
Meanwhile, Elon Musk's SpaceX alone receives $22 Billion from government contracts. Why are you upset about Power Forward Communities receiving $2 Billion while fine with the person supposedly reviewing these contracts receiving $22 Billion just for SpaceX? That doesn't include contracts his other companies have with the government. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/elon-musks-us-department-defense-contracts-2025-02-11/
I also wouldn't describe his team as "elite" in any way.
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Father Flanagan
You believe what they tell you to be the truth and you believe “their” fact checkers - enough said
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Michael Hunt
As opposed to which fact checkers? Do you have evidence that Politifact is wrong in their fact check? Do you have evidence that my sources are wrong? Or are you just avoiding the truth by dismissing the source with no evidence?
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Lawrence Pearce
Why should Lizzo, I mean Stacey Abrams be given $2 Billion dollars from our taxes? The evidence is there. She raised a tiny $100 last year and then Joe and his demorats handed her $2 Billion dollars in her "non profit" as payoff for her defending Joe last summer.
The democrats proved they hate American taxpayers by sending her billions of our tax dollars without our permission... the DNC filed lawsuits to block Jill Stein of the Green Party from appearing on state ballots... they also filed suits to remove RFK jr from state ballots. Today's democrat party is the Most Anti-Democratic Criminal Gang in America and they are the enemy of everyone who wants their votes counted and our taxes protected from DNC thieves.
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Michael Hunt
The funds were approved by the EPA to a group of 5 organizations, one of which Abrams had affiliation with. The funds are going to clean energy projects across the country. There is zero evidence that any of those funds went to Abrams.
Meanwhile the GOP is cutting taxes for the wealthiest Americans, giving tax cuts and subsidies to big oil, the auto industry, all the finance bros, while the poorest Americans have social services cut that help them survive.
Calling the DNC the "Most Anti-Democratic Criminal Gang in America" is laughable when the guy in the White House is a convicted felon accused of sexual assault by 20+ women who has a long history of defrauding Americans. Right now he has an unelected billionaire slashing the government workforce and eliminating organizations created by congress, which is illegal, despite this billionaire receiving at least $38 billion dollars from federal government contracts. The Trump White House is a cesspool of corruption intended to enrich the Trump family and his allies.
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Marie Hampton
So Musk speaks, albeit without our vote, and another bully pulpit action takes place. Support for disinformation, assumption, conjecture all done to concocted a reason for slash and burn government down to a minimum skeleton crew under the guize of cutting spending seems ludicrous when those actions haven't been studied, evaluated nor examined as to the basic who, what, where, when or how these dicisions will bring about the disired result. Let alone having a forethought as to what will really result when such I'll conceived cuts are done repeatedly, willy-nilly and so fast that the truth of these actions are hiding what their other hand is doing, namely making these billionaires richer by there investment portfolios counting on reactions in the vacuum opened up by the very cut backs they're enacting. The Roman empire steamrolled nations and if they didn't solute the emporer and march to the beat of their drum they were cut down, enslaved or decimated and inhalatied while Rome was taking everything for themselves. Better yet, like Nazi regime, first our country is better than any, then disinformation and propaganda to rile up and deceive the people that it's far left liberals causing the problems, while I am remembering the attack upon the Whitehouse where people were attacking and maiming and killing in the name of the far right! Those hundreds found guilty of multiple crimes including sedition, intent to murder etc.Then each and every one freed without by a pardon from the far right. Did we all forget our constitution begins with "We the people..."? Have we forgotten our manners? Isn't bullying a campaign we're fighting against? Does Musk understand the consequences or is he bascking in his own limelight while his real SpaceX rockets blow up in face? I miss the days where we looked out for each other, helped each other voluntaryly, greeted each other with a hand shake! We could reorganize our priorities to, "What can we do to (help, fix, assist etc) pull together to create a future for our children and our children's children? Can we form a garden coop, grow sustainable proteins, stop plastics or reinvent a better way to correct our immediate need or will bullying any non conformist into self inhalatiion because cutting costs without forethought works, especially if we blame a leftist radicals by disinformation since you never considered real information might be useful in correct cost cutting measures? Or possibly redoing the taax code to a straight taxation of all but the poorest. American the beautiful I miss you. Indepent voter, though I lean republican, I cannot support actions without forethought nor can I abide discrimination before I have the facts. The fact IS: Musk & DOGE were not on my ballot or even a consideration in the casting of my vote & that DOGE/Musk would be looking to invade IRS information, Medicare/Health information or any personal, private & protected information as isn't that against HIPA & SSA rules of privacy when it comes to my SS#? I pray for you all America and more so for the world since science is also in jeopardy of DOGE...
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So true. Elon is clearing a path through the jungle of frauds, scams and grifters who have been stealing TRILLIONS of dollars from US citizens for years. He found $2 Billion dollars dumped by Joe Biden in Stacey Abrams bank account as one example, just stolen from our US Treasury before Joe left office. A YUGE sign of crime and corruption by the democrats ripping off working Americans!
See Doge.gov for more scams, frauds and criminal thefts by the demrats uncovered by the Doge Tech Crews!