At least part of a granite monument in Georgia sometimes referred to as the "American Stonehenge" was destroyed in a bomb attack early in the morning of July 6th.
The Georgia Guidestones have sat in a field in rural Elbert County, Georgia since their erection by an unknown patron in 1980. Intended to serve as compass, calendar, and clock, the 19-foot stone structure is inscribed with messages in eight languages.
While they’ve been controversial since their unveiling in 1980, they received new attention when a candidate in Georgia’s gubernatorial election called them "Satanic" and pledged to tear them down as part of her platform.
Now, that wish has come true – at least partially.
But why are the stones significant?
American Stonehenge
The Georgia Guidestones were commissioned in 1979 by an unknown individual or group under the pseudonym Robert C. Christian. Built by the Elberton Granite Finishing Company for a price many times larger than any prior project the company had ever worked on, the Georgia Guidestones were officially unveiled on March 22, 1980.
The mysterious patron, Mr. “Christian”, said that the anonymous group he represented had been wanting to build the guidestones for some 20 years. In the years since its construction, many theories have been floated regarding who is behind the structure. None have been proven.
Calling themselves “guidestones to an Age of Reason,” the massive set of stones seemingly lay out a set of guiding principles for future generations in eight different languages both western and eastern. The ten principles are:
- Maintain humanity under 500,000,000 in perpetual balance with nature.
- Guide reproduction wisely — improving fitness and diversity.
- Unite humanity with a living new language.
- Rule passion — faith — tradition — and all things with tempered reason.
- Protect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.
- Let all nations rule internally resolving external disputes in a world court.
- Avoid petty laws and useless officials.
- Balance personal rights with social duties.
- Prize truth — beauty — love — seeking harmony with the infinite.
- Be not a cancer on the Earth — Leave room for nature — Leave room for nature.
The guidestones also have practical features like an astronomical calendar, as well as a sundial... just in case of humanity's destruction, it seems.
A Satanic Evil?
Almost since the beginning, they’ve been targeted by conspiracy theorists as proof of a sinister "Satanic" New World Order plot. The first two principles in particular – keeping humanity under 500 million and guiding reproduction – are commonly interpreted as advocating for a form of eugenics.
They gained national attention just earlier this year when a candidate for Georgia governor, Kandiss Taylor, dubbed them Satanic and called for the stones to be destroyed.
Promising to “rid Georgia of this Satanic evil” and “stand up to the Luciferian cabal,” she pledged that on her first day as governor, she will demolish the “Demonic plans of our enemy.”
Someone apparently saw fit to see the job through themselves.
Early in the morning of July 6, 2022, a bomb was detonated at the site of the monument. No injuries were reported, but apparently at least one of the guidestones was partially destroyed.
While details are still forthcoming and the Georgia Bureau of Investigation says there are no leads as of yet, the very woman who renewed interest in the monuments only months ago has a divine idea on who might be responsible:
What do you think?
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John Peter Dugan
If anyone would destroy it it would be extreme right wing fanatical Christians...................
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Daniel Gray
really? it has been there for quite a long time and not one of your imagined right wing fanatical christians has done anything to it. So maybe you should know what you are talking about BEFORE opening your mouth next time?
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Chris
Granted it's an assumption, but given the problems we've had in our society over the past 6 years it's a fairly safe assumption. A woman crashed into a statue of Baphomet because she didn't like it. Traitors stormed the US Capitol because they didn't like the outcome of the vote. Mass shootings almost every day this year, not to mention the multitude in previous years. The argument could even be made it started in 2011 with the shooting of Gabby Giffords.
Things are unraveling and people are becoming less discerning in what they will or won't do. And behind a majority of it are people who support the fanatical fundigelical GQP. So yeah, just because it's been there a long time doesn't mean some zealot didn't do it now when they've become emboldened.
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Daniel Gray
Ok the woman who crashed into the statue should be made to pay for its repair and then punished with fines and or jail time. As for the so called "traitors" thats your OPINION and isnt worth passing gas in a high wind for you to be a 'traitor' you must be convicted of the charge and to my knowledge not one has been. Really? Are you really going to try with this Gabby Gifford? people have been killed with guns since this country began and no gun control is going to stop it. Want proof? Ok the Japanese former prime minister was killed with a gun in Japan. problem with your argument is that Japan has the most strictest gun control/background checks (for the people who owned them before the laws were passed) and redflag laws in the world.....and it didnt help Abe out one bit did it? Same in Scotland, and even Interpol says the most dangerous city in Europe is in LONDON ENGLAND who has the highest daylight armed home invasions with the home owners present. Now since its almost impossible to even own a gun in England, how do you justify Interpols findings?
Sorry again but you are wrong. If you bothered to check with the FBI Crime report of 2021 you will see that over 97% of the shooters here are and were DEMOCRAT or part of a family of DEMOCRATS. Sorry I didnt want to bring politics into this but you forced me as its only when politics are brought in by a poster is because they dont have a leg to stand on and nothing they are claiming is based on or can be shown as fact.
And the only Zealot I see here is you and Dugan as you are hoping someone will just over look your hysterical claims and not actually look into the facts as if they did it would completely obliterate anything you were trying to say
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Chris
Wow, sounds like someone really got triggered there. Hysterical claims? Danny boy, you're a riot.
Let's see if I can make some reasonable comments to your rambling rant here.
"Traitor" is defined as a person who betrays a country, principle, etc. These US citizens were waving flags from another country in the US Capitol building after forcing their way in and wreaking havoc and causing damage.. The CSA was a separate country. So yes, I would define them as traitors to the US.
So, your assertion is that one shooting in Japan is equal to the multitude of shootings in the US? That's proof that gun control laws don't work? Interesting. Certainly other countries have gun related deaths. It happens. The Americas, however, have the highest numbers of gun related deaths according to https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/gun-deaths-by-country
Now, I don't know where you got your information from but I looked through the INTERPOL website and didn't find anything about London being the most dangerous city. I did find information about a crackdown in South Africa though. And according to https://www.armormax.com/blog/most-dangerous-cities-in-the-world-2021-deadliest-most-violent/#:~:text=Tijuana%20is%20the%20most%20dangerous%20city%20in%20the,violent%20crime%20like%20rape%2C%20homicides%2C%20and%20kidnapping%2C%20etc. the top ten dangerous cities are all in Central and South America.
I also checked the FBI Crime report of 2021 and didn't find anything showing political affiliation. I'd sure be interested to see sources for your unsupported claims.
As for zealots, well, you seem to be drunk on the Alt-Right kool-aid. Zealot is defined as a person who is fanatical and uncompromising in pursuit of their religious, political, or other ideals. And you're the one frothing at the mouth to try and make us believe you're right even without any shred of evidence. So again, zealot.
Why don't you take your own suggestion and look into the facts before saying anything. Just because you say a lot doesn't mean you have accurate information or anything worth saying. So thanks for playing, but you are the Weakest Link. You don't win any Rice-a-roni or Turtle Wax. Goodbye.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Funny Abe of Japan was the first fatality this year of a country which owns guns but makes it very time consuming to buy one. It really gets into a person's background. It can take up to a year. Mindless to say Japan has a respect for life which the U.S has but we're still a young country in regards to Japan. Japan also had a frontier background with warlords and plenty of killing with swords. And yes, that came again to the forefront with WW II . But, with their respect of Shintoism and their ancestors importance they have a stronger respect of life. The U.S. is still a young pup in the family of nations but the left is destroying our principles of respect very quickly.
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Howard Ellis
control the crooks the law abiding for the most part don't kill mass amounts of people and should left to protect there homes without Gestapo like raids to take there guns name vet and proud !
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
In what way was the Confederacy traitors to the U.S. Because they loved their statesvmore then the Federal System. The Founders were also very anti federal in many ways. They wanted a strong republic but a weaker federal system. They all warned us of a federal government getting to strong for its own sake over the states. Truly, what is happening today is a prime example of a tyrannical party in control. Thank God for the Senate and it's one conservative democratic Senator and the Supreme Court keeping our heads above water. The real danger is the shadow government being run by none the less then our 3rd term president Obama. I always said he posed a greater danger outside of the presidency as a former president then an acting president. And no one has convinced me yet Biden won by 3 million votes.
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Chris
And with that mindset nobody probably ever will, no matter how much verifiable evidence is provided. There is none so blind as those who will not see. So you keep on believing those Alternative Facts and drinking the Trump-aid. Pity you're so full of hate you can't see anything else.
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Daniel Gray
wow the only one triggered here is you as even your own source of armormax and the link you provided clearly says that over 30% of Londons homes have had daylight armed invasions, just as I said. Must be rich to have your own source call you out. And that raises the suspect on all your other fake claims.
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Chris
Danny boy, I never said London wasn't a dangerous city. I merely refuted the claim that it was the MOST dangerous city, something which my source upholds. But that's typical of your type of person to take things out of context and then misuse it for your own purposes. Like Donnie, like Danny. Nothing to back your claims up, just shouting louder and louder.
But hey, enjoy your Alternative Facts. Enjoy your Trump-aid. And enjoy burning in your hell on the day of Judgement for living such an anti-Christ life.
Peace.
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Daniel Gray
Sorry Chris but you DID say this on the 12th "Now, I don't know where you got your information from but I looked through the INTERPOL website and didn't find anything about London being the most dangerous city." So you just called yourself a liar, and now that means we have to suspect EVERYTHING you posted as suspicious and very possible a myth. Way to go Chris, not the first time I have seen someone in here intentionally speak out of both sides of their mouth.
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Chris
Really reaching and yet failing again, Danny boy. Read what you copied. I never said London wasn't dangerous, just that it wasn't the MOST dangerous as you claimed it was. What I posted supports that. You can't even take things out of context properly in your desire to be proven right while everyone else is wrong.
So blessed be, Danny boy. May your gods treat you as you treat others.
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Daniel Gray
No reaching, just reposting what you said Chris, so if you are upset because your own words just made you look like a fool, then I suggest that you make sure of what you are saying in the future so as not to have your own words come back and take a big chunk out of your rear.
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James Riggle-Johnson
Yes, but it's only in the last 6 years that the right-wing fanatical Christians zealots have started acting of their threats. It's funny because the person that embolden all of this is the least religous, most evil person on the planet. Just Sayin.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Take the blinders off please. We have a Speaker of the House and President who.proclaim they're practicing Catholics, while disregarding Church teaching.. NOT. A speaker excommunicated from her archdiocese but still disregards that and accepts communion and does do from the hands of the POPE. Even the Pope plays along disregarding his fellow Archbishop of San Francisco and doesn't give him a Cardinal's biretta out of spite of . The pope hoping the two political leaders will change. Gulp. I doubt it. It's about POWER. "Power corrupts. Absolute power corrupts absolutely ".
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Daniel Gray
Hmmm, seems it wasnt your right wing christian boogymen who tore down statues, that was socialist college kids. So tell me, exactly where is your outrage for this or are you as selective as they are in your opinions?
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Douglas Robert Spindler
I don't think they even need to be right wing Christians.
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Robert Gagnon
Saw the stones on some show. Seems like some some pretty common sense inscriptions. Where Satan comes into it has me at a loss. "Do as thou wilt be the whole of the Law)! That one phrase is what all of what Satanism is built on. I see this wanna be governor, and the majority of the fanatical Christians acting more like that, than who ever erected these stones. If they see Satan everywhere they look, how do they miss him in the mirror?
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Mark Stricklett
Common Sense indeed! The inscriptions include: Rule passion - faith - tradition - and all things with tempered reason.. Potrect people and nations with fair laws and just courts.... Balance person rights with social duties... Avoid petty laws and useless officals..
Yep, sounds good to me!
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
I think you truly need to seek a much deeper meaning in those stones. It reeks of communism, one world government, pagan religion, totalitarian ideology, population control. All satanic thank you. Start popping open some history books. And it's not conspiracy theory. It is a real conspiracy of the left which wants to control . All about elitism, communi s m, etc. Oligarchy.
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Robert Gagnon
The conspiracy is controlling the masses thru misinterpretation of an old book. Communism is Satanism? Fairness in the courts and conserving the core of our planet by not overpopulating it is evil? Drilling, mining, and fracking for the pockets of the one percent is good and holy? Yet somehow a golden idol of a spoiled rich illiterate is a symbol of what every American should strive to emulate? Please explain, I thought it was right to create and wrong to destroy for profit only.
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Pastor Paul
Yes Communism is Satanism. Communism only allows what they want. You worship who they tell you to worship. And as far as fair courts, let's say the first items becomes a law. We are now over 500,000,000 and your name comes up; you're executed. You're right Robert, this is Satanic or Communist at all. Wait isn't China communist? Didn't they have the One Child policy for 35 years? Good luck living in this New World Order, you're going to need it.
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John Komorowski
Boom!
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JT of the plains
Inspiring terrorism and terrorist acts should be prosecuted much more vigorously.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Exactly, like our present fake and fraudulent president and all the communist democrats.
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Paul Carpenter
This was posted today. We know that the entire structure has been leveled for safety reasons (the top stone was teetering and about to fall and the other had damaged foundations). They were pretentious esoteric gibberish. They had no ancient history and did not deserve comparison to stone henge. It would not be a surprise if the original builder blew them up to draw more attention to them than they ever got before.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
I believe the anonymous person is now dead ot it's BILL gates.
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Rev. Howard Slayton
I’m not sure what to make of them. I don’t know if it has anything to do with the new world order, or not. It seems like someone or some groups philosophies. I for one think as long as we are all here, we need to remain free and keep all of our rights. We need to be able to keep individual rights and have the right to be an individual. And if someone wants to erect a monument with their philosophy on it, they have a first amendment right to do that. And people need to leave it the hell alone. If it’s not yours then don’t touch it!!
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
And I think if you are really a reverend you need to uphold what our Constitution stands for. Not a group of stones reeking of secular ideology. Like why not replace them with the 10 Commandments.
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Richard A Ward
Why does a reverend need to adhere to the Constitution for his/her beliefs? Wasn’t that the whole point of the Country and Constitution, a place where government didn’t dictate religious beliefs? To defend the rights to worship or think freely is exactly what makes America. Dictating what others should believe or follow is the exact opposite.
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Matthew Arzano
Taylor and her ilk are becoming a clear and present danger to America and the rights that non-Christians hold dear. The fact that radical Christianity is getting a stronger foothold in our government is proof enough that the "new" GOP is the enemy of free thought and inclusivity. On a side note: This b.s. about a devil behind every rock is taking fairy tale nonsense to a new level of ignorance not seen in The United States of America since the witch trials. I think we all know ( or not, apparently) how well that whole show went.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
No comparison to the witch trials. The left is the true false government here. They refuse to accept anyone's beliefs that don't agree with their ideology. What you say of the Christian Right is a direct statement from the leftist playbook. Acuse the conservatives of repression, revolution, terrorism, racism, etc when truly speaking it is the opposite. We are done with wokeism. You can be a woman and not undergo surgery. Abort a fetus as a form of birth control. That xhat these stones mean.
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phwly
These people are nuttier than the proverbial fruitcakes. Religious fantatics; Q-Anon dupes; the Republican Party going full fascist. Not good.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 😹 😆 🤣 😂 oh boy here we go saying the GOP is going fascist. Who's responsible for the cities being ransacked and burnt allowing the Marxist BLM & Antifa go free. They encouraged them. A party which calls the GOP racists and white supremacists and teaching systemic racism to out kids making them ashamed if they're white. Never any positive thing to say about our Constitution or the fact the GOP was responsible for freeing the slaves. Democrats were responsible for Jim Crow Laws, etc. So don't start. Go jump in a lake with a cement block tied to your body. Make sure it's the deep.end.
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Douglas R. Reynolds
I think the almighty has bigger fish to fry to care about then some stone monument in the middle of a Georgia field.
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Mary Diane Johnson
- THOU SHALT HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE ME
- THOU SHALTNOT MAKD UNTO THEE ANY GRAVEN IMAGE
- THOU SHALT NOT TAKE THE NAME OF THE LORD THY GOD IN VAIN
- REMEMBER THE SABBATH DAY TO KEEP IT HOLY
- HONOR THY FATHER AND THY MOTHER
- THOUSHALT NOT KILL
- THOU SHALT NOT COMMIT ADULTERY
- THOU SHALT NOT STEAL
- THOU SHALT NOT BEAR FALSE WITNESS AGAINST THY NEIGHBOR
- THOU SHALT NOT COVET
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Richard A Ward
The ULC core belief, pasted: Our fundamental tasks are to promote freedom of religion and to "do that which is right" - core tenets that underscore everything we do. The ULC appeals to a worldwide audience through our online church services and our overarching belief that "we are all children of the same universe." You seems to have accepted this to join, then decided that only one set of teachings is now acceptable.
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Lionheart
And there’s still no evidence that Moses, or the Old Testament god, ever existed 🤷🏼
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Omg. I suppose the Holicaust never happened either. People like you need to just disappear.
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Lionheart
Of course the Holocaust happened, Keith (note the correct spelling of Holocaust). We have recordable oral, and visual, evidence it happened, which is far more than we can say for the available evidence we have to prove Moses, Abraham, Adam, Eve, Jesus, God, et al, were real. All we have are anecdotal stories written by people that we have no idea if they ever met those they wrote about.
Suggesting I "disappear" is what it seems your god is guilty of. At least I can prove I am real.....and exist. If your god can't do that, then I guess I am more omnipotent than he is.
If you want to really speak (pray) to someone who will genuinely listen to you, Keith, and will definitely answer you back audibly, and possibly visually via Zoom, I am available. Ask your god if he is willing/capable to Zoom with you, rather than have you speak to a wall, floor, or ceiling in the hope that it's there.
My morals are such, Keith, that I will never tell you that you need to disappear. Mythological god followers will do that, but my secular values are much better than that. Please take good care of yourself. You are welcome here any time. 🤗
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Richard James Holden
Well said
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Paul Edward Nunis
@Mary... 'Lo Tirthzak' doesn't mean 'kill'. Neither Moses nor Jesus spoke English.
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Richard James Holden
It is interesting that " thou shalt not kill " didn't appear to apply to Moses himself. After people started worshiping a golden calf he had about 10,000 people put to death. Also there were many other commandments that have since gone missing as they did not fit the political climates of the time. Moses himself was also known for keeping many slaves.
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William S. O'Connell
I totally agree, slaves were a huge issue. But, money and power is the cause of most conflicts.
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Calvin Paul Shummon
Sounds like the Guide of Liberal Democrats Atheistic Evil Communistic..Destroyers
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Krystina S.
One wonders why, once bombed, the entire edifice needed to be razed to the ground and obliterated... Small-minded people with their violent ways.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
No small minded people who allowed treasonous monuments put up to destroy and attack Our Founding Principles. Pull your head out.
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Tom
You're right. We should certainly be getting rid of the monuments to treasonous leaders of the Confederacy who tried to destroy our union.
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Robert Edward Szekely
I'd ask if this gubernatorial candidate was an idiot, but clearly that's a rhetorical statement with a self-evident answere.
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Richard Darwin Richards
They may not be satanic but they sure are human and that is too close to satanic...
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Telephone me in the face and wake me up. These were not satanic. BS. They were totally satanic in every way. Maintaining life at only 500,000,000. That smacks of satanic thinking. God is the author of life. We have no right to maintain life. That is Bill Gates' philosophy and satanic. That means killing off most of humanity. Hitler and Colmunism has waged that war and now "the Culture of death" says the same thing. Guide reproduction wisely is telling me abortion on demand and forced. Satanic. Unite humanity with one language. Where is the freedom of each country's culture and language. With the loss of language one loses their culture. Satanic. Rule all things : tradition, faith, passion with and all things with tempered reason. The word rule alone tells me fascism, communism, satanic. The very nature of ruling the above reeks of control and satanic. Protect people and nations with just courts, etc in relation the the things listed above sends red flags of totalitarian control. Let all natio s resolve internal disputes externally in world courts. Who is going to run those those courts. The present idea of the Great Reset is based on Chinese Communism. No thank you. Satanic. Avoid petty laws and useless officials. How. By executing them? Balance personal rights with social duties. I think the Christian Chirches, especially the Catholic Church does a fairly decent job with Catholic Charities.
Prize truth with blah blah blah seeking harmony with the infinite. Once again the infinite in this sense is government. No thank you. Total totalitarian communist philosophy. Be not a cancer on the Earth. Leave room for nature repeated twice. So how will you maintain a population of 500,000,000 with almost 8 billion people. You're going to have to start killing off people. This is total elitism. I don't care to live in a world like that. There is no life worth living with no freedom to think and recognize there is only one Absolute Truth and that truth is God.
I am glad such things are gone. Instead of worrying g about who blew them up we should center our focus on who is attacking Catholic Churches, synagogues, black churches. Funny no muslim centers are being attacked. Only Jewish and Christian centers of worship. After all we're regarded as domestic terrorists and if white we're racists. Harmony with the Infinite tells me there is a pagan one world religion and that is Satanic.
E not a cancer on the Earth. In Genesis we are the rulers of this Earth, the Caretakers, not a cancer. There is plenty more room for more people. There is plenty of room for humanity and nature. All of this is satanic and reeks of one world government and one world religion. No thank you. The world is the way it is because of fallen nature. Fallen humanity and fallen nature. Both are fallen because of SIN. Sin has been eradicated under Christ's Sacrifice. We are already in the New Creation. As St. Paul argued we are in the Old Creation and in the New Creation. There are birthpangs in the world awaiting the Second Coming where everyone of all non Christian faiths will embrace Christ . That is the world we should strive for. As the popes have all said is we must dialogue. This must be embraced and accepted. Not forced on us. The Stones listed a secular fake world view of satanic control. NO THANK YOU. DON'T REBUILD. I AM GLAD THEY ARE GONE.-
Lionheart
Still no demonstrable evidence from you yet, Keith, showing your god is real.
I see you are still quoting from your book of myth, and false claims. Please get well 🤗
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John Komorowski
Nice!
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Richard A Ward
Heh heh. You are funny, kudos. It’s hard to lighten up these type chats, but being silly is awesome. Phone to my face, classic! Using sarcasm to point out the ridiculous arguments is great.
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Mark Faulkner
The words that come from the mouths of those practicing evil….. just WOW!!!!
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His Holiness Doctor C.
Theocracy, here we come!
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Rev. Dr. G. Waldron
The tablets were not satanic. There were Christian principles on them. The only work of satan here us in the hearts of those causing destruction and division, yes like Putin.
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JaZe
oh, satan here, satan there, satan everywhere? this is not a perfect world, it is still a primary school for souls and in no danger of graduating to university any time soon! but this obsession with the guy borders on the ridiculous.
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Richard Lee Cornell
Did someone call. Do not use that name in vain or what you fear might just become. The lady who seeks to destroy mere blocks of stone has made everyone aware of them.Someone needs to hold up a mirror to her and see if she has a refection.
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Jeffrey Alan Sandifer
Seedless watermelons are the true evil!
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Lionheart
......and Lego bricks left on the floor to traumatize those of us that love to walk barefoot in the home.🤭
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Richard James Holden
These stones - 42 years old. Stonehenge - about 5000 years old. How on earth is this America's Stonehenge ? It's not even a Henge ( how they are layed out with raised banks etc ). I appreciate you need attention grabbing headlines, throwing the word 'Satanic' in always works as well, but frankly this is just plain silly.
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Paul Edward Nunis
It wasn't the article authors that created either catch phrase.
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John R
Wherever rightwingers are, whenever you look in history, there is division and disorder. Whether old-south southerners, neo-nazis, or puritans.
Face it, fundie hypocrites, God decided the Old South would die. Ok so current fake-Christian types dug it back up, but it will die again, taking a new load of hypocrites with it.
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Brother Chris
If anyone knows anything about history, they would know that Lincoln wasn't the hero that everyone thought he was. His constituents wanted to fight with the south over owning slaves, Lincoln however didn't want to get into a battle with Southern plantation owners over slavery. His hand was forced, & he was trusted into a civil war he didn't want.
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Keith Allen Steele Eash
Lincoln was a hero in no uncertain terms. One of the greatest gifted speakers in Western history since Cicero. He saw things as they were and acted accordingly. That is a hero. Like the Founding Fathers he saw history in realistic terms. He saw the Union being the most important factor of keeping it together and keeping foreign entities out of America. Something we should do now and we don't. Instead we let our biggest enemy China buy our farm.land along with traitors like Soros and Bill Gates who see human life as expendable. People like that need to be wiped off the face of the map. They are expendable. He freed the slaves when he saw an opportunity
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Luisa Fernanda Montalvo Arroyave
Now I want to visit Georgia!
As a close neighbor to this community - these guidestones are no more satanic than the 10 commandments! The bombing was done by a follower of a wacko governor wannabe. All will be revealed soon, GBI has video of the bombing and the bombers vehicle.
The community has already rallied and the guidestones will be rebuilt.
exactly. just as the people who destroyed statues and monuments should also be brought before a judge and sent to prison after they make restitution and get the statues and monuments replaced to their original condition. The whole point is if you dont like it, then you dont need to go see it. For instance, in Seattle there is a neighborhood that has a statute of Lenin right in the middle of it. Do I like it? absolutely not. Am I going to go over there and destroy it because I dont like it? absolutely not as that is something the people in that neighborhood have to deal with. Same reasoning should be given to all the other monuments and statues that were destroyed and all the Military bases and sports teams that some people have a feather up their rear and try to get the names changed because they suddenly dont like it. Example? The Cleveland Indians changed their name to the Cleveland Guardians all because some whiners got upset and have been ROASTED for doing so. I am a Native American and I have NO problem with them being called "Indians" Nor does any other Native American I know of, in fact they are honored. Some people just have WAY too much time on their hands to whine about things that do not concern them
So you don't think statues of confederate soldiers who owned and whipped Americans should be taken down?
No I do not. And most of those who fought for the Confederacy did not own slaves or wanted slavery in time to be abolished. The Civil War wasn't over slavery. Far from the truth. Only maybe 1% true. It was over far more then that. It was over ideology of whether the South would be an agrarian society or industrial. Truly, the South wasn't rich by comparison and could not truly industrialize without Northern investment. And they truly didn't want Northern investment when most of the income would fill the pockets of Northern investors. First, who would fill the jobs? Illiterate slaves? Really? Got to free and train them fist and who would work 9n the plantations? Immigrants? Doubt it. Slavery was a "peculiar institution " that would die out in time if not forced as an issue through the argument of states rights . It was totally an economic crisis which could only be solved given time. And it would've been solved if only radicals in the North and radicals in the South wouldn't have inflamed both sides. Times haven't changed any. Radicals in the North once again pushing radical abortion beyond human reason. Take a step back and reason things out.
Keith, only in America are statues erected to celebrate the losers. The Confederate States lost the war. Why should there be statues honoring the defeated? I have never seen a statue of Hitler or Mussolini in any country that was part of the winning side.
It is unbelievable that Confederate statues were erected at all. The losing side is to be celebrated? This country has its values all screwed up. We have ceased being a civilized society. Our political mantra is "It's us against them." Crazy. The federal government is in shambles. The Supreme Court has ceased to have any semblance of common sense concerning our Constitution. Only 30% vote in elections unless it's for president.
I'll get off my soapbox. My blood pressure is rising.
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Agreed John. When I first studied the CW in 5th grade my father pointed out to me that the Confederates were traitors. I still believe that. Comparing the loser statues to that of the Guidestones is typical deflection.
It makes me really sad to think that you consider yourself intelligent and 1. are unaware that the Civil War was fought over a system that was beyond barbaric and murderous and 2. are unable to consider the beliefs and workings of a man, Lenin, outside of his party affiliation. You've got a lot of reading/research to do.
The civil war was most certainly over slavery. Southern states noted their reasons in their various Articles of Succession, leaving no doubt as to their reasons. It wasn’t until much later that they tried to pitch it as a nobler thing, but it is in their own print. They attacked, they committed treason, there can be no debate on that. Why have monuments to those fighting to uphold slavery and committing treason? That seems unsupportable.
Articles of succession mentioning slavery was once again over the issue of southern lifestyle based on an agrarian society. The Founding Fathers were not willing to risk colonial war over slavery. Equal rights was an ideal to be striven for in time and they compromised at the founding of our country. But, they planted the seeds of the abolishment slavery in time hoping that civil war would not decide it. The Southerners were not treasonous. It was the North pure and simple pushing industrialization. When will human elites quit pushing a new change of society and let it occur in its own speed. Like the Big Reset. Total treason against the rights of every country, every citizen. And the economic model founded on Chinese Communism is nothing more then slavery run by an elite oligarchy. Leave the system to work itself out. Definitely, capitalism needs to reform, but it is still the best economic system and a democratic republic is still the best form of government humanity has founded thanks to the United States. You people who view slavery as a form of systemic racism hate our Constitution and you hate yourselves, so please take your Bill Gates and Klaus Scwab, your Obamas and Clintons and George Soros' and move to China. You make me sick always crying systemic racism on past history and people are still victims. Wake up and pull your heads out. These stones reek of communist philosophy if you knew anything about it. Read some history.
I don't agree with a lot of what you said, but I completely agree with your take on the real reasons for the Civil War. Most people find it easier to just say it was over slavery, but that simply isn't true. Congratulations for being a thinking person.
This is the absolute best and most accurate answer I have ever had the pleasure of reading.
Thank you. At least there are a few who can judge history from the messed up wokeism of today's world and call everything that western society created as racist and white supremacist. The western world made upon allethnic groups created the university system, took Christianity to the pereiperhies, etc. We didn't create slavery. It already existed. But, in time we abolished it and guess what it still exists today in the world where it was mainly created. Again thank you.
when you can prove they did then we can talk, until then all you are doing is trying to use smoke and mirrors to prove your point, whatever that is and failing badly
Well. I would. Anything that attacks the Founding of our country should not be erected. Lenin is communist. The stones were evil as well calling for population control. Sounds like something Gates would do. People like that need to be expunged from our society. It's treason. Pure and simple. Some Americans ate plain fricken stupid. And I do not tolerate stupidity. I attack it.
ope these monuments are no more evil then the pyramids or the great wall. Now if they intend to act on whats written there then yes I would agree with you as that would mean the mass murder of over 3.4 billion people. But until they do then its just a bunch of stones nothing more.
The stones never meant for people over that number to be murdered. The stones were built at the height of the cold war, when everyone was scared of nuclear war, to act as a guide for rebuilding humanity. Meaning “hey If we all get blown up, don’t have too many kids”
Oh really? then how exactly did they intend for the human population to be dropped from almost 7 Billion people down to what they have written on the stones unless they planned on removing some people? Your argument does not make a lick of sense as if the cold war would have turned hot and nuclear weapons were used, there would not have been enough people left to restart the human race due to the fall out and the nuclear winter and the poisoned ground and acid rain