Stop us if you’ve heard this one before: a religious group is in trouble after claiming to have a miracle cure for an infectious disease. The culprit this time is an Australian chapter of the Genesis II Church of Health and Healing – the group has been fined over $150,000 for promoting its Miracle Mineral Solution (MMS) as a cure for Covid-19.
The magic ingredient? Bleach.
Once alerted to these claims, Australian authorities decided to crack down on the group and issue fines for false and illegal advertising. Not only is there no evidence bleach cures coronavirus, but ingesting the substance is highly toxic and could seriously hurt people, say experts.
"It is dangerous," Professor Ken Harvey of Monash University told reporters. "Deaths have occurred, serious admissions to hospital from this particular substance."
And while he was pleased to hear about the fine, Harvey thinks the crackdown should be more severe. "Their website is still promoting and selling these products albeit with a disclaimer that these products are 'church sacraments' and not therapeutic goods," he said.
Not Their First Rodeo
If the name “Genesis II Church of Health and Healing” sounds familiar, it’s because controversial miracle cures are sort of their calling card. In fact, the church’s mystery “mineral solution” even drew the attention of the FDA last year after the church planned an event in Washington state promoting the substance.
The agency went so far as to issue an official statement about the concoction Genesis was trying to sell, warning people that it contains chlorine dioxide – which is the scientific name for industrial bleach.
Going on the Defensive
Following the recent sanctions, the Australia group has updated its website to include a new notice:
"Due to the current media lies that our site promotes the drinking of dangerous industrial bleach, and the attendant, if ignorant and reprehensible, harassment and attacks on our church, we are largely unable to take phone calls any more."
When reached for comment, a representative for MMS Australia told the media: "We have no comment, except to point out that this is a shocking and egregious attack on freedom of expression and freedom of religion in Australia.”
The group didn’t clarify whether they were planning to pay the fine, or fight it in court.
41 comments
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Rev. Sandy
They should be charged, closed and taxed. These so called christians are crazy Trump supporters and are highlighting the insanity in the USA. They need to listen to scientific doctors and not Hitler Trump. It's also disturbing that all these pro lifers are ok with all the deaths in the USA and around the world. Get with the program
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Val Jester
Get control of your emotions cupcake. They are in Australia. You also have your proposed actions a bit backwards. If you close them, you cant tax them. Smh.
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Darryl Mizer
I'm not sure it matters where they are or what they believe. No rational thought has happened.
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tuppennyblue
They've never made any claims to be Christians. Their bleach-drinking ideas have been around for well over a decade; it's nothing to do with Trump. And there's no reason to believe that they are "pro-lifers" either, so you are wrong on every single count. Ah, well.
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flugo
Excellent response!
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Tim Wilson
Rev Sandy, Your comment shows you know nothing of the Genesis II Church, nor of MMS, but you are in company with the writer of the article who is just passing negative propaganda designed in it's origin to discredit a world class pathogen killer that is capable of use for almost every complaint known to man because it cleanses the body of pathogens to allow a fresh start in a generally poisonous world. No-one who has not tried MMS for themselves is qualified to judge what others do or believe in... The wide range of applications makes it a huge enemy to big Pharma who for decades have suppressed natural and hygeine based doctors in favour of a varied chemical pump of questionable substances, many of which have taken life of thousands to millions as well as terrible afflictions on the human.... Hydrogen Peroxide is a bleach, yet has therapeutic use in the body at the right concentration and purity.... so the bleach claim is shown to be shallow and scaremongering. Sodium chlorate was used in 7% solution as a pathogen killer for travellers and it is from this that internal use developed... Jim Humble was gold prospecting and two bearers became sick with mild malaria... he wondered if the water purifier pathogen killer he used for water could help them as they were far from any other possible medicine... he gave them a couple of drops in water which they drunk and recovered by the next day.... in short then, fully blown malaria needed a stronger dose and 30 drops was found to cure it anytime, but when organs were weak sometimes produced a toxic burden too quickly causing healing crisis... so this was split into two 15 drop doses which worked without impacting people to suffer overkill of their toxins.... he went on to cure 85,000 people of Malaria in Africa until the health agency shut him down as non approved medicine... later, Red Cross carried out a trial with around 100 malaria patients and cured 96.... the trial was independently filmed but later Red Cross denied they ever ran the trial.... it had to buried and discredited as it threatened and still does somewhat threaten, a multi billion dollar industry... due to the persecution from medicinal agencies who as we well know have a revolving door with Pharma, the only way to be able to carry on was to hold the faith in the medicine and form a church based on healing mankind without the side effects and complications of pharmaceuticals, which given the state of health in the western world is plain to see they have solved nothing, US is sickest nation with highest vaccine and medicinal uses... this is a true faith which hold the good of mankind from the basis of good clean health and an answer even to most forms of biological warfare.... it is that powerful... i have personally used it but only once with no illness to detect what it felt like in the body, which was like a cool wind blowing through... it caused no ill effect in the slightest when healthy... only used once when ill with a flu like illness on myself and i was better within 24 hrs after a day of purging from just one dose... i had a friend who also had a heavy flu, they recovered in 18 hours without any purging reported and were amazed that they could go from heavy flu to clear from 8pm one evening to 4pm the next day, to the extent that they could go and party for new years ever when all they wished from the medicine was to be able to work new years day..... Jim Humble is a good man who cares about his fellow man and is unfairly derided by big money scared of losing their luxury ticket on the back of causing harm with their pharmaceuticals, deaths do not deter them from still pushing medicines for profit... we all know this world is upside down and that lies win over truth in many arenas and this is a choice one... do not condemn what you know nothing of. Minister Emoven.
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albertha-yvonne
This is the same industrial solution used to disinfect pools. Do some research before spreading misinformation. Then go drink a glass of water from your tap and pray some chemical was used to disinfect it. Cease attempting to limit others based on your limited knowledge.
Read what Minister Emoven wrote to better educate yourself.
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William Waugh
Clearly, Donald Trump is, in fact, above the law. Also now clearly, he throws a bone to any group, worldwide, that he thinks will net him a niche vote. He must believe that if he sews enough niches together he can win reelection. ....eh, hello!! You are already empeached mister. ......anyway....how come we cant arrest him for suggesting bleach? Im so done with this man. If this man and others like him are necessary to maintain global economies; folks we are doing things wrong...........as an aside because this is who I am....."No wonder we havnt made contact with extraterrestrials yet, they avoid us like a, ....... a plague!!
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Lawrence William Major
You could file a lawsuit, but you'll lose because Trump said no such thing. Along with "UV", "bleach" was in questions about possible treatments the Trump asked doctors at the press conference. If you think asking about potentially fatal chemicals being developed in a treatment, you need to read up on chemotherapy. While you have every right to be irritated with whoever lied to you, it can easily be stopped by watching things for yourself instead of relying on someone else to tell you the truth. The full, unedited recording of this press conference, for example, is easily available. This is why the church go into legal trouble and Trump didn't.
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William Waugh
Trumper, trumper ovr ere!! Keep your eyes peeled. It is stunning, to witness the volume of the willfully ignorant. It matters not that he thought it not appropriate to ingest bleach. He said it. He is in a position of leadership and should realize that some of his minoins are going to do it. Donald is no leader. In fact, its becoming clear the votes he is trying to rake in with this kind of nonsense are Clinton's "basket of deplorables". ........and so on. The secret service function today is to shield the office of the presidency from being tarnished by this idiot. No one, in a leadership position decides they know best above experts. Leadership is a team effort. He apparently thinks he is going to birth the equivalent of a new nation under his personal authority. Really, the funny part is these dumb (bells) havnt figured out he is a one trick pony and not a good one. Truly, thier ignorance is "almost" amusing. His brain says to him; I am a self made man and only I can fix things. His brain at his age is hardwired the way he saw fit. Physically unable to grasp new concepts that dont fit neatly into his worldview. In inexperienced politition should be aware that growth with the office, is what is expected and requirered.
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Lawrence William Major
I tried to give you a reasonable reply (as in actually watch the unedited video to see what really happened), but you have made this conversation purely political, which is inappropriate for this forum and I will no longer participate it.
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JustJames73
LWM. I appreciate your tone and reasioning. You are right that this is not the place for making it political. We all need to be mindful our belifs and how they affect the world we live in. Keep it up brother!
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William Waugh
.....and to be clear, its ok to discuss current events only in terms of those involved! While,...shhhhh the president is off the hook because,......wait for it, ......he is the president! ............during the Obama administration I observed this behaviour locally that captures the essence of the people who swept in the Donald. An historically closed off city by toll roads, (now not) there were at least five areas that could have seen a buildup. The direction that growth occurred and what drove the development was a vague mental concept that while you werent moving far enough to lose your local identity, you were distancing the old downtown which is predominantly black from youself and living closer to a community out that way called Whitesville.
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William Waugh
Tell you what homey, I'll stop drawing connections to political maneuvering when its not a politically charged story. Typical that you ultra right wing idiots see no problems when its not them being lambasted. Again, no competent leader would mutter anything that could be abused by the lesser indowed. Again, this is a politically charged story. Hello, we would not be here in this moment, if it were not. ........and this forum has exposed a lot of idiocy. .......while separation of church and state is essential, so also is to elect competent authority. .....also, idiot, this is a chuch forum for communication among members. If its just another blog to you might I suggest sticking with your brick and mortar church and continue the conversations of your choice. ......and I couldnt care less if no response. But, like Moulder and Scully agree; "The truth is out there!
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Master Wolf KSC
I think they should diligently take their own medicine and advice.
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Darryl Mizer
Amen
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Tim Wilson
"Master" Wolf KSC.... i doubt there is a single member of Genesis Church II that has NOT taken MMS... how else do you think folk decide to join and promote MMS? this is not the p-harmaceutical industry here but a tried and tested therapy... i vouch for it and have used it to absolutely no harm... and good effect at killing flu in one day or less... so your comment is already too late, they already do take their own medicine and their own advice... not all churches are hypocritical... see my comment above to Rev Sandy if you are at all interested in educating yourself as to what MMS actually is.... without researching, i would say that the comments from the professor are related to people harmed in industry by strong solutions of this substance as he does not appear to directly state that it is from ingestion of MMS but simply people harmed by the chemical... i know it's a soundbite only but accuracy of meaning is everything when it comes to condemnation.... it's like the media "died with" covid, rather than "died of" covid... woolly statements allow for lies to parade as truth. You should try it and then you may have grounds for an opinion. Minister Emoven :)
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David Fonda
I normally don't respond to blog posts but this one begs for it. First of all the article is a hit piece. Secondly, it seems most here are unaware of basic chemistry. Bleach is SODIUM HYPOCHLORITE, which I agree, would not be something to ingest.. MMS, which is what the Genesis II Church is dealing with, is CHLORINE DIOXIDE. Not the same chemical at all. Genesis II Church has been using this as a treatment for malaria for quite a few years now and has an amazing record of success with it. It is also efficacious in treatment of other things. President Trump drew howls of derision the other day when he was quizzing some Doctors about injecting bleach. He used a poor choice of words but it does show that he's aware of this protocol. Finally, Hydroxychloroquine, which Trump is taking as a preventative measure and has been shown to work against Covid 19, is also a drug used to treat malaria. Both are chlorine based chemical, so the inference here should be obvious.
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Laurel Lee Newman-Curry
Thanks for stating the facts. I have read the book and research years ago and took MMS when there were signs of breast cancer, which I cleared up. Fear factor is worse than every right now and adding ignorance makes it 10 fold worse. People--do your homework--just because the names are similar they are different substances. Get the book and educate yourselves!!!!!
Rev. Laurel
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Mark Stricklett
Let's all pray for their enlightenment!
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Carl Bernard Elfstrom
Better yet, let's all pray for their condemnation, and imprisonment for selling poison to people!
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Tim Wilson
Can you qualify your statement with any knowledge on the subject? or is this a simple knee jerk reaction to what is presented here? methinks most likely the latter, but then who am i to judge? Minister Emoven :)
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Alexander Clarke
Just more proof that stupid can not be fixed.
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Summer Bree Nichols
I always decide to air on the side of Caution because untill I actually see the report that says that this actually happen I realy can’t make a educated decision. But if true then shame on them for using people’s fear to promote this is this what god realy wants are church leaders to be doing . I don’t think so we need to be supportive and helping out are community’s at this time of need and education is a great way to do this .
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Summer Bree Nichols
I’ve got a great idea instead of posting what people are doing wrong how about we post some good things people are doing during this pandemic just a thought
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TheSound.com
There is a paradox to consider. "Holy" water, if from a sanitized source, contains a tiny amount of chlorine (the active ingredient in bleach). Many drink chlorinated water all the time. The chlorine ingredient is highly diluted and therefore it is safe to drink for most people.
Household bleach is actually a mixture of chemicals. Its main constituent is a solution of ~3-6% sodium hypochlorite (NaOCl), which is mixed with small amounts of sodium hydroxide, hydrogen peroxide, and calcium hypochlorite.(Source: http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/motm/bleach/bleachh.htm)
MMS is marketed as water purification drops and may be offered under different names, including "Miracle Mineral Supplement." It contains 28% sodium chlorite, which is a chemical used as a textile bleaching agent and disinfectant. The level of dilution is what makes MMS toxic to drink. A couple of drops in a five-gallon water bottle will disinfect the water, but too strong of a concentration can kill a person. Using MMS in this way, will not have any therapeutic benefit and may have toxic effects. (Source: https://www.tga.gov.au/alert/miracle-mineral-solution-mms)
It helps to understand the difference from the strengths of the dilutions.
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Tim Wilson
Good information... 28% is safe for consumption and has very many therapeutic effects, far too many for government and pharma...:) hence the demonisation... it would kill a multi billion dollar industry... i can vouch, i have taken that strength to no toxic effect when healthy and therapeutic effect when ill, usually one day recovery from splattered... :)
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Richard Lee Cornell
But is works. It goes down better when mixed with a glass of Irish whiskey.
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Carol A siebert
I don't think we need to make this Policital! Also, if your foolish to drink Bleach you need to have your head examined!
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Lionheart
That pesky 0.1% that is never covered by cleaners. Notice how no manufacturer of disinfectant lists what that 0.1% comprises of that is not covered. I guess it’s a get-out clause in case someone uses the cleaner and still gets ill. 😜
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Amber M. Castleman
Since this Church had been in legal trouble thought the years a fine will not stop them they need prison time and a permanent church shutdown along with a permanent revoked licenses.
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Tim Wilson
The truth and it's believers are hard to suppress... But Lying Pharma will do it's best, along with all it's purchased glory, it lives to squash the competing story... A'feared of losing coffers of gold it uses Lies that now grow old, At any cost they hold their wealth Regardless of our people's Health, Thousands die and thousands weep, Babies dying in their sleep, Only for the parent's blame, While the industry of death knows no shame.
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Randall Hall
I look at all the compassionate replies and think this must truly be a spiritual group of compassionate souls.
Oh wait, that was somewhere else.
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Summer Bree Nichols
I always decide to air on the side of Caution because untill I actually see the report that says that this actually happen I realy can’t make a educated decision. But if true then shame on them for using people’s fear to promote this is this what god realy wants are church leaders to be doing . I don’t think so we need to be supportive and helping out are community’s at this time of need and education is a great way to do this .
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Richard Lee Cornell
I belong to the America Chemical Society. Love to see what people will put into their bodies. The Merck Index is a big book that is also filled with cures for this virus. Good for bowel movement.
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Hazel
OMG. Really!? I'm still not clear on whether they were promoting ingesting it or just using it as a cleanser for surfaces.
If this is about ingesting it oh, it's just too bad that stupid doesn't hurt. Most people with half a brain know that you aren't supposed to drink bleach Parma even diluted bleach.
If this is about using bleach to clean surfaces, I see nothing wrong with it. Bleach can kill all sorts of germs so it makes a great cleaner. But whatever you do, do not mix it with ammonia because it gives off toxic gases when mixed together.
Also, it not only kills germs but it will kill people if they ingest it so just don't do it. Just Say Noto drinking bleach.
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Tim Wilson
hydrogen peroxide is a bleach but is used internally and is available to buy, Chlorine dioxide has a bleaching action without harming fibres of cloth so is clearly different from other bleaches that would destroy and rot a fibre, i know, i used it (household bleach) too strong on some Levis back in the day and the wind blew holes in them while drying on the line... :) it's all about dilution, industrial strength would certainly harm, therapeutic dilution will certainly cleanse and help heal, same as with the peroxide, used for hair but you wouldn't drink it at that preparation... it's a scare story to stop you trying it yourself and finding out how amazing it is... :) try not to live in fear... :) Minister Emoven
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CB Cuff
A death caused by a virus would be considered homicide, an unnatural cause of death. Death caused by drinking bleach would be considered suicide. But I guess they consider it a better choice. ho hum
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Alexander Clarke
If only you could prosecute a virus. Oh well that aside viruses, unless man made, are natural and thus a natural cause of death.
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Garry Ray Emerson
Australian authorities are wrong. Genesis II does NOT promote bleach, which is sodium hypochlorite (NaOCl or NaClO) and is CORROSIVE and TOXIC. Your use of a picture of laudry bleach is irresponsible reporting. And the fact their is no author noted, we can also say you are a coward. Genesis II MMS is chlorine dioxide (ClO2) which is USED FOR PURIFYING DRINKING WATER. It is NOT TOXIC in the recommended dosages. They're being fined because 1) MMS works and 2) it's dirt cheap and easy to make. Big Pharma does not like stuff that works and is cheap and easy to make and THEY are behind these charges. I've been taking MMS for over 2 months without any ill effects. The only people that must not take MMS are those with a genetic mutation called G6PD. Those with G6PD must avoid chlorine compounds otherwise sever, life threatening anemia can occur. No, I'm not affiliated with Genesis II.
What scares me is each of you are able to vote and reproduce.