Should Churches Endorse Politicians?

Tom B

Life is life, and can be discussed anywhere...but the tax exempt status of real estate owned by religions should be terminated asap...the tax exempt status is an affront to the separation of church and State...while religions should be free to practice without intimidation, that has nothing to do with the fact that all real estate should be taxed...by not taxing real estate owned by religions, the State is supporting the religions, and that is not separation of church and State...religions get police protection, fire protection, dpw services, etc...they should not be free, while all the other landowners pay real estate taxes that partly go to those protections and services for the religions...Tom

The Prophet of Life

I suppose churches can endorse politicians and in fact, many have been doing so for a long time. It is wrong, however for churches to suggest that their endorsement is God's endorsement and to tell congregations that not towing & voting the church line is a sin.

Brother John

Endorsing an honest, moral, worthy candidate in a corrupt, dishonest, immoral political system might provide the opportunity to spread a message during the election campaign, but not to have the candidate actually elected. At least not beyond the local level. But why toss your representatives into a system that will eat them alive?

Churches could, and should, be loudly voicing their messages not only to their congregations, but to the general public directly. We don't even have to convince our church hierarchy. They may be queasy about unpopular topics and the potential for political backlash (like audits and tax status reviews). I've used my ULC ordination to secure a spot in the "Pastor's Point" section of a few newspapers. There are around a dozen or so contributors, representing mostly Christian churches, who also take turns with submissions.

Here's column that was published a few years ago that elicited a number of positive comments, some also published. Perhaps it will inspire some of you to use your ordinations to have your message read in venues in addition to this one. Many of those who regularly post here compose and present their thoughts very well. Being ordained opens doors that might otherwise be closed.

Is yours a Peace Church? Brother John

There are many Christian churches, often called “peace churches”, that refuse to participate in war and killing. These include: the Anabaptist group (Mennonites, Amish, Hutterite, etc.), Quakers, Seventh Day Adventists, some Pentecostal groups and others.

“Thou shalt not kill”, “Love your enemies, and pray for those who wrong you”, “Blessed are the peacemakers” and “Do unto others what you would have them do unto you” is very clear to them and they had, and have, the courage and conviction to adhere to them, regardless of the consequences. Many of their members have faced derision, persecution, imprisonment and even death, particularly when their countries and fellow citizens were at war and conscription was in effect. They didn’t just “talk the talk”, they “walked the walk.”

Not so with some of our mainstream Christian churches today, who have decided that “kill” was a mistranslation that should read “thou shall not murder”. This translation allows for “righteous killing” assuming there is a proper motive, intent and justification, creating a gray area that remains black and white for the Christian pacifists. For them, God created all of humankind and all lives are precious. Just as importantly, they follow the teachings of Jesus, the namesake of their religion, who is quoted in the previous paragraph.

Assuming “murder” has replaced “killing” in some versions of the Bible, what are today’s Christians to believe? What is the stance of their chosen denomination and their minister/pastor/priest? Is there a gray area? The answer will probably depend on the circumstance.

In a home invasion or robbery, is a Christian justified in using deadly force to defend themselves and their families? Many would say yes. But how about if you were the invader, in a far away country, where you chose to put yourself in harms way with no immediate threat to your family or even your country? What if the “collateral damage” from your bombs and drones included the deaths of innocent people including women and children? Does this qualify as “righteous killing”?

Brother John is ordained through the Universal Life Church

Mathayus

Church and state, the founding fathers wanted to keep them separate from each other for a good reason. They had just defeated a theocratic monarchy to gain our nations independence. They knew all to well what happens when you let religion and politics mix. The middle East is a good example of why this is a good idea. But so are a few European countries. I think repealing the Johnson act is about the worst thing any President of the United States could do. Frankly, it almost seems like he's trying to butter up the religious leaders to support him should he run for a second term. If you're the head of a tax exempt institution, a church, a temple, a mosque, whatever it may be, when you enter that sacred space, you should leave your politics at the door. There are a few Catholic bishops that need to learn this lesson. They do threaten their congregations with hellfire and excommunication for not voting a certain way. This has gotten sorry, so short version, bad idea. Leave things alone.

Kris Olafson

I offer you the gift of salvation, and that is the reason, if ever, that I hope to have the influence to speak or write or just be amongst those that are wholly in need of a voice, which if I am given the power of the Holy Spirit, I can baptise and help you to be free of your sins... Therefore, I urge you to find the humble fealty to God and Christ Jesus Our Lord. He died on the cross, and if even the President, or even Queen Rania (whom I deeply admire) need help in seeking out their salvation, then I offer my hope and prayers for that hour! If this is as my God desires of me, Blessed be the Lord, and Thank you for all you do for me Jesus my God!!! I love you Father...Amen Thank you for this day and please bless our Nation, giving all of our leaders (at the Congress and Courts to the Executive branches, even down to the lowest level of local government), wisdom and Holy Guidance so that they may do what is right for all of us and to repair these chasms which seem to evolve from the hearts-Heal our hearts, because Father God we know that what goes into us is just as important as what comes out from our hearts and lips! Bless the teachers and Industrial leadership because just as the Pope say they too shape the future of our world and our youth! Lord thank you for your blessings for all of the technology and the medical advances you have helped us... Lord please help those that can manage it to give what ever is needed for the sick and those suffering. God please ease the pain of those that might not be hurting because of physical, but please comfort and bring peace and help to some who are in mental anguish Father-You know each and every situation! Dear Lord Please keep all of those that give so much of themselves to protect others, and often extend their lives into the path of harm!! In the Name of the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, Amen!

Heru

All power to the people _ anarchy

Dr. James Swienty DD R.T. (ARRT)

If you are a good Christian person you should have, (especially in our nearing the final days), one thing on your mind. You should be living your life for one purposes and one purpose only which is, striving your hardest to fully belong to the family of God the Creator of this Universe. This should be paramount on every Christian's mind. Politics has absolutely no business being any where around a church service. Ever since I entered the age of accountability, (around six or seven years old), I have been trying to find a politician that does not lie. I try my hardest to live my life the way God has told me too and a person who lies as much as a politician does I just do not want to be around these people. In this day and age it becomes very hard to shield one's self from the evil that has infiltrated itself throughout this world which is now being run by satan along with the myriad of demons he has at his beckoned call. Politics, or I should say, (using a word the Holy Bible uses), lawlessness.

Rev John Barker

Church and State must remain separate, not for Tax purposes but for ethical reasons. The Church is no place for Politics, only Gods Grace is timeless, Politicians come and go.

Rev. Brien

I did not want to believe that I would have to resort to actually spelling out a very real reason why religion and politics need to be separate, but because of a couple of very misguided comments that I have read I will spell out the MOST obvious example as to why the separation MUST remain. The Middle East comes to mind. Religious fanatic leaders have been at war with each other for over 2000 years. They want nothing more than to KILL, (yes I said kill), every last person that does not subscribe to their belief. This did not happen over night, but in fact has gone on for centuries. That should be a firm enough reason why not even religion can go unchecked. For those of you who want to argue some stupid tax laws....stop it. Taxes are man made, not God made. You are free to practice your religion, just as I am free not to have to live under it. Peace

biblical scholar

Trump is the best thing to EVER happen to this country and in two weeks has already solidified himself as our greatest president ever truly annointed by God. Overturning Obama's Jesus hating laws is the best thing he can do. Jesus and Trump will lead this country back to a holy greatness!

Tracy Everett

If churches want to give up their tax exempt status than they are free to preach politics from their pulpit. If they want to keep their tax exempt status than they need to peach the lesson of God and keep their mouths shut when it comes to politics.

Minister of Peace and Love

Separation of Church and State is paramount to the founding of America, where I am from. Knowing our history and what we fled, I cannot in good conscience destroy one of the founding tenets of our nation. To mingle the two would be a step towards theocracy, not democracy. We struggle as it is to retain our democratic roots and ensure them.

John Elsa

No No No I don't believe in any part of it. Who represents those that have no deity or fable. Which religion do you promote. We already have a problem with separation of church and state.

Galin Pheylan

"My House shall be called a House of Prayer, and you have made it a den of thieves". "Do not be as the Priests, who place much burden on the people with their laws". "Do to others as you wish others to do to you". No one is taking away any persons freedom of speech, the issue is using a covering of religion to sway peoples political opinions.

Andrew Simpson

I say yes! This is a freedom of speech issue. If a pastor feels in their heart that one candidate is better than another, why should they be prevented from saying so!? Especially if the other candidate is a threat to religious freedom...

Tom

Additionally, if I am not adult enough to choose a church, or to choose a candidate, then I should sign up for citizenship courses immediately!

Tom

If I am adult enough to choose a religion and decide which church to attend, I am also adult enough to choose a candidate and vote for them without being told who to pick. The church should stick to cleansing soiled linens and saving souls, not imposing their religious teachings on the country through the voting booth.

Paul Hoogeveen

The constitutional principals of our nation should be the final arbiter in these matters. We cannot allow religious leaders to have undue influence over political matters, nor can we allow political leaders to have undue influence over religious ones. The line separating church and state is a thin one at best. Allowing the endorsement of specific political leaders would be crossing that line.

John Maher

NO WAY, WHAT WOULD JESUS SAY, NO WAY !!!

Carrie

No is the only answer. If a member of the church disagrees with the political leanings of the minister they have a right to stand up and leave. That would cause rifts within the church. If anyone wants to talk politics, let them take it outside!

Rev. Brien

Real simple. No discussion needed. NO. Simple.

Kirk

I think people go to church to find peace in their hectic lives. Politics is stressful, not peaceful. Leave it out!

REV. DAVID ARMITAGE

It is my feeling that politics should not be in the church. Even a minister who talks politics in a church or lets politicians use the pupit for campaigning is not right and should not be allowed. There is a separation between church and state and that's the way it should remain.

Spiritual Healer Erma E Boyd

I have to admit, I was raised never to bring up two (2) topics of conversation in any group, religion and politics. These are like oil and water and should never be mixed. I would NEVER want my Temple to support ANY political event/person/candidate/side. I personally am a Libertarian, however, I will not now nor ever ask my people to favor anyone over another, Your religion and your politics are your own business.

Randy

Of course churches should be able to endorse politicians. But not just any politician! Only GOOD, DECENT, GOD-FEARING men like Donald J. Trump deserve our votes!

Jess Martin

Amen sista. Not unless they pay taxes. No endorsing candidates for the church exemption.

Katelynne Victoria Shouse

Absolutely not unless they want to pay taxes just as the rest of us do!

Rev. Nancy Willingham

Once upon a time, churches could and did act effectively for social and political change. But now we have Twitter, Facebook, flash mobs, blogs, and websites for every possible cause or movement, etc. There are numerous ways for people to get and feel involved in the issues of the day. Furthermore, churches are already dwindling. I fear that churches will get into politics at their peril. People today come to church, temple or mosque for support, inspiration and to experience the sacred. They can satisfy their political cravings without getting up on a day off for morning services. So, in addition to losing the tax break, politically active church risk losing bodies in pews.

My ministry is in Unity, which has no history of political activism. So my opinion is not based on experience.